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manofmystery 
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 Topic: US Presidential Poll (Registered Voters Only)
Posted: July 28 2016 at 10:05 |
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Now that each party's ticket has been finalized it's time to take an early look at where Progarchives' US voters (registered voters only, please) stand. Unlike the other polls that have appeared so far this one is intended to present an accurate representation of how the ballot will appear in all 50 states (sorry, Jill stein does not appear as she's only likely to gain ballot access in around half the states - those voting for her can select the "Write-In" option). Of course, there is still a lot of time left in the campaign and things can change drastically so expect another one of these in the fall, close to the election.
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The T
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 10:16 |
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Clinton/Kaine
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 10:19 |
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^ ditto
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 10:32 |
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ditto x2
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 10:51 |
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Trump/Pence
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TeleStrat
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 11:48 |
^ I'm with you Jose. I am firmly in the ABC camp (Anyone But Clinton). Hopefully, Trump can pull this one off and eliminate her (and her husband) from politics once and for all. If he surrounds himself with knowledgeable people (and listens to them) I think he can do much more good than harm. I certainly don't want four (or eight) more years of business as usual.
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 12:14 |
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 12:28 |
 TeleStrat wrote:
^ I'm with you Jose. I am firmly in the ABC camp (Anyone But Clinton).Hopefully, Trump can pull this one off and eliminate her (and her husband) from politics once and for all. If he surrounds himself with knowledgeable people (and listens to them) I think he can do much more good than harm. I certainly don't want four (or eight) more years of business as usual. |
Hi Gary, Well he will need to change his tone on speeches and such and start speaking to the Bernie voters who are now on the outside looking in and really hate Hillary, most are the younger crowd. He should send his kids out to speak to them, both Trump Jr and Ivanka are highly intelligent and I think can win those voters over, he will need those votes. I would feel better about people wanting a "democrat" in the WH rather than wanting Hillary in the WH, complete and utter non-sense and I struggle with people being OK with a family like that, and a husband who has done so many hurtful things to his wife over and over and over.....putrid people and a total disgrace to the highest office in the US.
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 13:02 |
Catcher10 wrote:
I struggle with people being OK with a family like that, and a husband who has done so many hurtful things to his wife over and over and over.....putrid people and a total disgrace to the highest office in the US.
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I'm not going to argue politics and ideas, it's obvious there could be no agreement, but about the highlighted part... what the hell does that have to do with anything?
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:22 |
^ Ethical behavior of the family.....She supposedly is for women's rights and all that and yet she lives with a man who has been accused of rape, as well as all the other stuff he has done to her and the family name.
I too am not going to argue politics and ideas....but they are a horrid example of husband and wife who have done all this behavior while serving the public in elected positions.
How on earth can you trust anyone with that kind of family and career history....Please explain that to me? This has nothing to do with politics, your right.
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:44 |
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Nixon/Agnew.
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:45 |
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So you're going to vote for the three time married serial philanderer who cheated on his first two wives and thinks his daughter is hot enough to sleep with? Okey Dokey.
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SteveG
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:48 |
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Who wanted to sleep with his daughter? Nixon or Agnew?
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dr wu23
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:52 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
So you're going to vote for the three time married serial philanderer who cheated on his first two wives and thinks his daughter is hot enough to sleep with? Okey Dokey. |
Yes......to think that Trump has any decent moral values either is a stretch.
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:52 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
So you're going to vote for the three time married serial philanderer who cheated on his first two wives and thinks his daughter is hot enough to sleep with? Okey Dokey. |
Exactly what I was going to answer. Hillary is not the one cheating on her spouse, her spouse was. On the other hand, we have Trump, married 3 times, womanizer, even lightly accused of rape by his first wife. Yes, he's the family values man. Not the other couple which, with many mistakes, has been together for a lifetime and has successfully raised a daughter together.
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:57 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
So you're going to vote for the three time married serial philanderer who cheated on his first two wives and thinks his daughter is hot enough to sleep with? Okey Dokey. |
Yes......to think that Trump has any decent moral values either is a stretch.
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Good one Doc! But my Born Again brother actually is not going to vote at all! He obviously doesn't care about Medicare, SS and every other thing one needs when they retire. That is what spooks me. people like my brother just bailing out and not voting against someone that makes used car salesmen seem respectable!
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 14:58 |
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^ Ethical behavior of the family.....She supposedly is for women's rights and all that and yet she lives with a man who has been accused of rape, as well as all the other stuff he has done to her and the family name.
I too am not going to argue politics and ideas....but they are a horrid example of husband and wife who have done all this behavior while serving the public in elected positions.
How on earth can you trust anyone with that kind of family and career history....Please explain that to me? This has nothing to do with politics, your right. |
So instead of voting for a woman who lives with a man accused of rape you want to vote to actually vote for a man accused of rape?
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 15:28 |
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not to mention, all poltical rhetoric aside, who just tread a very fine line against treason.
for what reason.. to win a f**king election.
Perhaps that presser yesterday was the point we finally saw the spell break.. he had been able to get away saying things that no politican..much less a potential leader of this country could or should ever say. He may have finally crossed a line that even he could not.. is he really that stupid. OF course not.. just someone completely caught up in himself he loses good common sense.
a great quality to have in a President heh...
I'll take personal mistakes, of which Hillary has made plenty... over a completely over his head and unqualified failed business leader. Many of us have seen that.. perhaps this was finally the point that that the Hillary haters but non Trump believers finally decide that to hell with petty differences on Policy.. that man is fricking insane, unbalanced and a threat to the very country he wants to ..not lead... but rule by shear force of his personality.
Edited by micky - July 28 2016 at 15:31
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 15:34 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
So you're going to vote for the three time married serial philanderer who cheated on his first two wives and thinks his daughter is hot enough to sleep with? Okey Dokey. |
Clearly neither is a shinning star, but only one has done all this while in public office without any remorse or as much as a hand slap, again the perception is the Clinton's will roll over anyone who stands in their way.
IDC if Trump was married 10 times, at least at some point he/her realized it was time to end the marriage for whatever reason. Hillary and Bill are in it to keep the Clinton political train rolling to the WH, that has been the plan for many years, they need each other for that reason only.
You cannot argue that how a person acts while working for the public vs working in the private sector are different, and those standards are what the Clinton's are not being held to. How many politicians have been forced out or stepped down when something they did was un-ethical?? But the Clinton's have not even thought about doing that, I am sure all they did was laugh in your faces all these years....People do not like Hillary because they cannot trust her, pretty simple.
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Posted: July 28 2016 at 15:37 |
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^I've never trusted any politician Jose. They are what they are. Is Trump somehow better?
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