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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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Surprised there hasn't been started a thread about this interview here yet. Specifically, he's frustrated about people who keep badgering him to make a new Tool album and don't care about his other music projects which he vastly prefers himself.
You know, maybe I'm just lucky but I haven't yet met anywhere as many of those annoying Tool fanboys people often complain about. I guess it was worse in the 1990s/2000s when the band was at the height of their popularity, but all the fans of that group I've met came across as completely normal people. |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Well, Tool do seem to be a bit full of themselves. I read where they gave a performance in a small venue and that no one in this audience was allowed to enter with cellphones or cameras, as the band was 'tired of being distracted' by them.
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You forgot to mention when he called the fanboys retards and insufferable.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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^Oh yeah, that too.
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Lowend ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2015 Location: Denver,Pa USA Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Maybe if his other projects were as good as Tool people might prefer them as he does. His fans may annoy him but I'm sure their $$$$$ doesn't. He strikes me as being quite egotistical and conceited. Obviously, I'm no fanboy but I do have Lateralus and 10,000 days in my collection. I've seen them live at what is now the Santander arena in Reading, Pa. and they were good. I have since sold off the rest of my Tool collection along with other items in order to help finance acquiring a mobile fidelity recording of "Close to the Edge".
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Lowend ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2015 Location: Denver,Pa USA Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I guess the fanboys are like women who prefer men that abuse them. LOL!
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Pastmaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 23 2015 Location: Spiderwood Farm Status: Offline Points: 1774 |
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Fanboys are insufferable, it's simply a fact. Anyways, I love Tool, they are one of my favorite bands, but I completely understand how the band could get annoyed. Sure, I want a new Tool album, but Maynard's other projects are also really enjoyable for me. After all, whining will get you nowhere, if anything fans whining will just prolong the album. Also, being a fan is completely different from being a fanboy.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Fanboys are over enthusiastic fans. Does that make them retards and insufferable? This is not Beatle mania that we are talking about.
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Pastmaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 23 2015 Location: Spiderwood Farm Status: Offline Points: 1774 |
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It makes them insufferable, I've had many fanboys insult me for having different tastes and especially prog fanboys say how less complex music sucks. I think the definition of insufferable sums up fanboys pretty well. Out of the music world, Nintendo fanboys are probably the worst of the lot, insulting anything that isn't made by Nintendo.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Well, I have no idea what your claim to fame is, but it seems like you deserve your fanboys.
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IIRC he just doesn't like the seriousness attached to the band.
He wants listeners to just enjoy themselves and listen to the band's music. He believes the humor that is in the band is completely ignored and gets drowned out by the darkness, dreary, seriousness by the fans and it has annoyed him over time. |
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Pastmaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 23 2015 Location: Spiderwood Farm Status: Offline Points: 1774 |
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Did I say something to piss you off? I was only stating my experience with fanboys. If you can give me examples of nice fanboys, I'll be glad to change my opinion.
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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I don't run into anywhere as many Tool fanboys/fangirls as I used to, so I'm sometimes mystified by people complaining about them. I still think it was probably more of a thing in the 1990s and 2000s.
Same thing with belligerent fans of Dream Theater and Radiohead. Edited by Toaster Mantis - October 30 2015 at 13:03 |
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Pastmaster ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 23 2015 Location: Spiderwood Farm Status: Offline Points: 1774 |
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Yup, everyone has their own opinion. Thanks, I really enjoy their rhythmic instrumentation as well, I love the bouncing ball effect made by the drums in 'Disposition'.
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You should be banned for putting Radiohead in the same sentence with that abomination.
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People love Maynard and Tool for their "pretentiousness" until it finally bites them. He's been a charismatic jerk since day one. That said, his side projects aren't too good, and Tool have thrown away the past decade for reasons which have never been totally clear. Want people to stop asking about Tool? Then stop leading everyone on, telling people that this amount of a new album is finished - the "epic" is done...album should be out by January...how about a tour with no new material? How about five more over the next 7 years...we're writing like crazy...we're having legal problems. You guys are insufferable! Leave us alone! It's easy. Break up, shut up, or be a band again.
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The only fanboy I've met that sort of meets the criteria I've heard about regarding Tool's more obsessive fans is my sister. Back in the early 2000's I went to visit her after not seeing her for a few years, and she picked me up in her car and proceeded to blast Lateralus while explaining to me all this stuff about Keenan's interest in spirals and crap about about spiral religions and other mumbo-jumbo. Most of it I could hardly hear anyways since she was cranking the CD so loud. I liked the band too, but she almost ruined them for me for good that night. She had seen them well over ten times in concert, and A Perfect Circle in the double digits too.
Funny enough I had only seen Tool once, in early 1994 at a club in Boston, and my sister was brutally jealous about that once she became a rabid fan of them a few years later. She never mentions MJK's other projects these days and her interest in Tool has certainly waned with the years going by with nothing new on the horizon.
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Toaster Mantis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
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FWIW the prog rock groups with the most aggressive fans are in my experience Gentle Giant and Henry Cow, but in those cases it's coming from both groups being seen as never having reached the kind of audience they deserved. Also, that in Henry Cow's case there's the entire ideological aspect of the "Rock In Opposition" movement.
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