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A Person
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 21:44 | ||
It's true that part of the immigrants are from Afghanistan, and that people have been leaving there since late 2001 for some strange reason. It doesn't really matter to me though, I am ok with immigrants even from there given the state of the region. Ultimately I personally would rather my country support them and its citizens to a greater extent. I think overall the new immigrants will be beneficial economically if they are given a proper start. And you can't pretend nationalism isn't on the rise in western countries. The videos I've seen of white nationalists protesting immigration in Australia aren't fake. My Dutch friend sees anti-islamic tendencies rising in his country too.
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 21:53 | ||
Because countries are obligated to screen entrants to the Schengen area, so stats are easily available. from Eurostat Top 5 nationalities crossing Mediterranean German authorities say most claiming asylum pose as syrian, few of them actually are http://news.yahoo.com/refugees-greece-macedonia-border-migrants-posing-syrian-160144148.html http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11509101 and it only gets worse as word gets out that nobody gets turned away or sent back Edited by Triceratopsoil - November 11 2015 at 21:54 |
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emigre80
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 25 2015 Location: kentucky Status: Offline Points: 2223 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 21:57 | ||
No, the easiest way to shut down a discussion is to never listen to a single word that anyone else is saying.
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 22:02 | ||
You're right, liberals like to do that too
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 22:08 | ||
Imagined geographies |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 22:08 | ||
We absorbed 10 million refugees from East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) during the 1971 war and at least 1.5 million of them may have stayed back. Movement of Bangladeshi migrants into India has never completely abated but is no longer a hot potato and is accepted as something we have to live with, India-Bangladeshi bhai-bhai and all that. This as a third world country with the world's largest population of the poor. And yet, we have to listen to constant human rights lecturing from the West when they don't want to clean up the mess they were very much a part of creating in Syria. Fantastic!
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 22:34 | ||
The entire situation would be over in a week if Obama would get over his desire to eliminate Assad and cooperate with Putin
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 22:36 | ||
Ahaha, US-Russia co-operation, not happening. That would be a first.
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Vompatti
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67414 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 22:37 | ||
Putin won't cooperate with terrorists.
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KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 23:26 | ||
Yes, cause that worked out so well for the Germans during the first half of the 1940s.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65381 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 23:29 | ||
^ Snap !
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 23:36 | ||
I'm thinking more Pinochet, Franco, Mosley, McCarthy
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KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 26 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1281 |
Posted: November 11 2015 at 23:46 | ||
Triceratopsoil, why do you hate freedom?
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: November 12 2015 at 00:01 | ||
OK, I too am going to take you up on this. So what about market forces? You really don't think market forces can be a counter to the (usually) inefficient and unproductive communist state? Down here, the state of Kerala has a communist govt but everybody knows it survives on revenue from tourism as well as the expenditure of its large outward migrating workforce. West Bengal was saved from complete collapse by organised and unorganised retail. Soviet Union collapsed because the inefficiency of the state caught up with them and they could no longer provide a certain minimum standard of living to all to keep the union intact. Whatever may have been Reagan's flaws in terms of inaugurating neo-con policies in US, he was certainly not a fascist and thank God for that. The Fuhrer decided to take on Russia head on and look where it got him.
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Triceratopsoil
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
Posted: November 12 2015 at 00:07 | ||
Because for too many people it means "the freedom to be a degenerate weirdo" or "the freedom to live off the hard work of others." A high degree of freedom only works in a high trust society, which we haven't had here since, oh, somewhere around Diefenbaker. |
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rogerthat
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: November 12 2015 at 00:15 | ||
^^^ Paradoxically, the way to abolish the "freedom to live off the hard work of others" is to have more freedom, i.e, shrink the state and cut down redistribution of income. This is NOT an advocacy of not having redistribution at all, but just to make a point that curtailing freedom means all the king's horses and all the king's men live off the hapless subjects.
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65381 |
Posted: November 12 2015 at 00:29 | ||
Ah finally, some true colors, and plenty of anger. That's what I like to see. Your position is easy, unoriginal and dated, but at least it's real. I'll let your post speak for itself as I couldn't do much more damage to you that it does. I mean if you really want to do the 'Oh those nutty black people are at it again with their violence and drugs and "Hey baaaby, you wanna work tonight?" pimpin' and hoein' thing, by all means, continue. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Online Points: 65381 |
Posted: November 12 2015 at 01:00 | ||
But evidently it is what sparked this whole thing, both there and in this thread. And so be it. If a trivial matter sparks a heated discussion, it's okay with me. That was my point from the beginning; apparently for everyone posting here, it is about much more than a collegiate hissy-fit. Edited by Atavachron - November 12 2015 at 01:22 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: November 12 2015 at 04:44 | ||
It's about peoples perceived right to not be offended.
No one actually reserves that right at all, and these poor young people who have been dog trained to hyperventilate at the sight of a brown bag (look up: Brown bags are racist) are in for a nasty shock when they leave their "safe space" and head out into the real world with $100K + of debt to pay off, far from brilliant job opportunities and a world of corruption, deceit, racial hatred and a total lack of genuine compassion from the top down.. Life will chew them up and spit them out like a piece of discarded gum. They'll be crying for their f***ing mommies by the time the 'real world' has had its way with them. They'll miss the nice professor who they once berated for trying to be reasonable. And this is what happens when expectations of life are set unreasonably IMO, and kids are led to believe they are gods and people don't have the right to upset them in any way shape or form. It's a form of abuse. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Easy Money
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10669 |
Posted: November 12 2015 at 08:21 | ||
I think the op is just as hyper-sensitive and overly serious as the people he is pointing his finger at.
Obviously this video upset him so much that he had to start a thread of outrage at a music site and continued to trump up the video to the point where its become part of a devious mass cultural conspiracy. I'm sorry others don't share your views on Halloween and hand clapping, but you're not the authority, or are you? |
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