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Tarquin Underspoon 
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 Posted: September 16 2009 at 20:42 |
 Boomstick wrote:
There are two double albums that I like a lot. First being Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans which I love it for being completely self indulgent. It's an amazing album. I also think The Wall worked well even though most will disagree with me as many think it had too much filler. I like most of the filler on that album.
Overall though, the vast majority would have been better with one disc.
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Yes was always one of those bands that I thought was, overall, TOO indulgent and pretentious, in a way.
I agree, though, The Wall works better for me because it's just less overwhelming and it has a steady, more simple vibe that I can latch hold of (if that makes sense). I like The Incident for the same reasons.
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Dim
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Posted: September 16 2009 at 22:05 |
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On my first time through, and I'm actually significantly impressed! Really dark and moody!
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 17 2009 at 00:10 |
Dalezilla wrote:
E-Dub wrote:
I got mine yesterday and spun it for the first time. I like disc 1, but disc 2 is a waste of time.
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Funny, I'm the exact opposite. 
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Really? They sound like throwaway tunes to me. E
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mystic fred
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Posted: September 17 2009 at 00:35 |
I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive (to be released 18th sept), i ordered it from PT website. Funnily enough i have been listening and "getting" as Tony R put it Steven's solo album "Insurgentes", i ordered this on vinyl and it is opening doors to me now 
to fellow vinyl freaks: i asked K Scope if they were planning to re-release some more of PT's old albums in vinyl as dealers are ripping collectors off all over the place with these, and that said they had "nothing concrete" planned......not a yes or a no, but possibly a maybe...? 
Edited by mystic fred - September 17 2009 at 00:41
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topofsm
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Posted: September 17 2009 at 20:47 |
I really didn't find much exciting about the album. I've listened to it a few times, and It's really not growing on me.
I will say that the Opeth flavored riffs in "The Blind House" are excellent. I guess it set me up for dissapointment for the rest of the album. "Drawing the Line" is not good at all IMO.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: September 17 2009 at 21:39 |
Wow, this album has come in for a hammering at this site.
I actually like it a lot now after listening to it for a week.
It probably helped that I didn't listen to previous PT albums for about a month before buying it, and went in with no expectations.
Maybe I'm a fanboy, but I haven't been let down by them at all yet.
Well, the first PT album I bought was actually FOABP, and then I worked backwards from there, picking up all their other ones. So this is my first PT album which was released when I'm already a fan.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Starless
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 06:24 |
I can't believe the amount of negative opinions on The Incident in this thread - gawd knows what you lot expected??! IMO it's easily their most accomplished and mature work to date, and knocks the vastly overrated FOABP into a cocked hat, so there!
In the end, it's only opinions...................................
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rushaholic
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 06:28 |
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I got to agree with the two previous posters...
If you look back over the last 20 or so entries on this thread, you would see some pretty negative opinions of the album. I admit having listened to it 7 or 8 times now over the past week and I really like what I am hearing.
As much as I liked FOABP, I am happy to see a a new direction here.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 06:30 |
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^I don't think its bad, I just think they have much better...
FOABP on the other hand, probably my least favourite work from PT... It seemed incredibly uninspired in comparison to all of their other albums, and I can't understand why it has the appraisal it has so far. It did lure alot of newcomers into the world of Porcupine Tree, but it didn't really give them a genuine showcase of what this band is capable of IMHO. It had its moment (Anesthetize) but even then, PT have much, much better as both a hard-rock band and a psych/space rock band.
IMHO, of course... I did love FOABP for a while, but its lost nearly all effect on me now after numerous listens.
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Starless
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 06:36 |
progkidjoel wrote:
^I don't think its bad, I just think they have much better...
FOABP on the other hand, probably my least favourite work from PT... It seemed incredibly uninspired in comparison to all of their other albums, and I can't understand why it has the appraisal it has so far. It did lure alot of newcomers into the world of Porcupine Tree, but it didn't really give them a genuine showcase of what this band is capable of IMHO. It had its moment (Anesthetize) but even then, PT have much, much better as both a hard-rock band and a psych/space rock band.
IMHO, of course... I did love FOABP for a while, but its lost nearly all effect on me now after numerous listens. |
Exactly right about FOABP dude! Not at all representative of PT, and Anesthetize was a disjointed mess that sounded like three unrelated tracks spliced together. I'm quite glad SW seems to have toned down his annoying metal fixation on TI, alho' I have to say that opening riff is MONSTER, and can only really be appreciated on a decent sound system at crushingly loud volume! Those who only listen on mp3 are deffo missing out big time.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 06:43 |
Starless wrote:
progkidjoel wrote:
^I don't think its bad, I just think they have much better... FOABP on the other hand, probably my least favourite work from PT... It seemed incredibly uninspired in comparison to all of their other albums, and I can't understand why it has the appraisal it has so far. It did lure alot of newcomers into the world of Porcupine Tree, but it didn't really give them a genuine showcase of what this band is capable of IMHO. It had its moment (Anesthetize) but even then, PT have much, much better as both a hard-rock band and a psych/space rock band. IMHO, of course... I did love FOABP for a while, but its lost nearly all effect on me now after numerous listens. |
Exactly right about FOABP dude! Not at all representative of PT, and Anesthetize was a disjointed mess that sounded like three unrelated tracks spliced together. I'm quite glad SW seems to have toned down his annoying metal fixation on TI, alho' I have to say that opening riff is MONSTER, and can only really be appreciated on a decent sound system at crushingly loud volume! Those who only listen on mp3 are deffo missing out big time. |
Thats for sure - First thing I did when I bought THE INCIDENT was head out to the backroom and listen to it blisteringly loud... Its insanely well produced, and it really shows the louder you play it.
My favourite riff from the album would have to be the outro riff to THE SEANCE, which is just epic.
My real problem with FOABP is it seems so incredibly thin and uninspired compared to the rest of their work - I mean, its good, but its just insane that its their second highest rated here on PA. It seems to lack a classic track, and for the first time, I can't stand the closing track.... PT usually have amazing closers, but SLEEP TOGETHER is easily the exception.
Do you have a favourite section/Track from THE INCIDENT so far? 
-Joel
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trili
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:12 |
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I've been liking it more each time I listen to it. But I've been liking it for the fun value of it instead of the artistic value. It's a good record to drink beers and play pool. And Time Flies just pisses me of... I think he ripped off Pink Floyd enough on Voyage 34. But that's just me.
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Starless
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:14 |
Joel
Fave bits so far - Parts i to iv amazing, Drawing The Line is the only track I'm not sure about, it doesn't gel with the rest, sounds like a throwaway pop song, Time Flies (a Floyd homage NOT a rip off as some suggest) is the best track on the album. parts xi to xiv also amazing. CD2 has some great songs. esp Remember Me Lover.
You're spot on about Sleep Together, it has some of the most inane lyrics SW has written. Or, maybe that was the point? FOABP is my least played PT cd, the best IMO is The Sky Moves Sideways (extended edition) which is a prog masterpiece!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:20 |
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Interesting to see some people going ga ga over the album and others having an utter lack of enthusiasm. Me, I usually spin a new one rather frequently for the first month, so I'm still getting to know it. I haven't gone nuts for the album, but I like it. Probably won't be my favorite of the year, but so what?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:20 |
progkidjoel wrote:
^I don't think its bad, I just think they have much better...
FOABP on the other hand, probably my least favourite work from PT... It seemed incredibly uninspired in comparison to all of their other albums, and I can't understand why it has the appraisal it has so far. It did lure alot of newcomers into the world of Porcupine Tree, but it didn't really give them a genuine showcase of what this band is capable of IMHO. It had its moment (Anesthetize) but even then, PT have much, much better as both a hard-rock band and a psych/space rock band.
IMHO, of course... I did love FOABP for a while, but its lost nearly all effect on me now after numerous listens. |
I think FOABP is the best of PT, though it's not perfect. I really don't think it's uninspired, and it's based on a view on society that I think is very interesting. It didn't lure me into PT, that was Up The Downstair, I loved the soundscapes back then, and wasn't fond of anything as "loud" as FOABP. When I decided to buy FOABP I was stunned. It really is their most emotional and best achievement yet. Anesthetize is pure brilliance, definitely the middle part, and Sentimental is probably my favorite from PT. FOABP made great use of the combination of synths and the usual instruments, and I really think that's where it's power lies. It sounds like it is from the future, and I really like that. I actually don't get all the negative comments on FOABP. People say it's blank, cold and uninspired... I really don't get how people get to think of it that way.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:21 |
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Starless,
The Sky Moves Sideways is easily their best IMHO... Simply amazing album, hard to believe the band is so different now!
The 2CD edition was great, added a whole lot more and made it easily one of the best things I've ever bought.
After THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS, I'd put IN ABSENTIA, but mainly because it was the album which really got me into Porcupine Tree.
TIME FLIES is very good - My only regret was getting an MP3 copy of the single, as I'd massively overlistened to it by the time the album was released...
DRAWING THE LINE is good, but as you said, it doesn't really seem like a genuine song - More of a single, and it doesn't really seem to fit in between the two great tracks around it... It's catchy, but still pale in comparison.
Edited by progkidjoel - September 18 2009 at 07:22
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Starless
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:25 |
progkidjoel wrote:
Starless,
The Sky Moves Sideways is easily their best IMHO... Simply amazing album, hard to believe the band is so different now!
The 2CD edition was great, added a whole lot more and made it easily one of the best things I've ever bought.
After THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS, I'd put IN ABSENTIA, but mainly because it was the album which really got me into Porcupine Tree.
TIME FLIES is very good - My only regret was getting an MP3 copy of the single, as I'd massively overlistened to it by the time the album was released...
DRAWING THE LINE is good, but as you said, it doesn't really seem like a genuine song - More of a single, and it doesn't really seem to fit in between the two great tracks around it... It's catchy, but still pale in comparison. |
Sounds like we have the same record (damn, that's given my age away!) collection!
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trili
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:26 |
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Time Flies (a Floyd homage NOT a rip off as some suggest)
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Homage, I have to learn that one. 
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Pekka
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 07:30 |
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After some sevenish spins of the first disc I'm really really enjoying the whole thing. The Incident/Your Unpleasant Family/The Yellow Windows etc is a bit of a weaker section, but up until that it's all pure gold. Definitely including Drawing the Line, I really dig that. If I was to point out a section not fitting in it would definitely be the title track.
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 08:26 |
I've listened to the album about 3 times, and at this point I'm giving it a 7-7.5 out of 10. The beginning of the album is solid, especially the Great Expectations drift into Kneel and Disconnect. Drawing the Line I would say is for sure the weakest track on the album. The chorus annoys me a little. Then my next favorite moment would for sure be Yellow Windows of the Evening Train drifting into Time Flies. Time Flies is for sure one of my favorite songs probably followed by Great Expectations/Kneel and Disconnect then Octane Twisted.
Overall, my high expectations have not been met from this effort, at least not after only listening to the album 3 times. Haven't even listened to Disc 2 yet haha, but I bet it's decent.
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