New Porcupine Tree Album
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Topic: New Porcupine Tree Album
Posted By: Leon
Subject: New Porcupine Tree Album
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 10:06
On a scale of one to ten how much are you anticipating it? Me? Eleven. 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 10:11
| Now you should have made a poll out of this. I'm going for a five. I'll buy it for sure and judge and review it with complete objectivity. |
Posted By: Leon
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 10:13
| This is what's great about having a penchant for prog; when an album comes along like this, you appreciate it. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 10:23
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A poll was made, a few days ago.  ------------- 
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 11:54
the poll will do the trick .. and i also wait for this new stuf , maybe around 8 on that anticipation scale  ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 12:03
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Eh, maybe a 3. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: g0rd0nb0mbay
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 12:08
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8
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 13:41
About 1,000,000 times as much as I am anticipating the flood of new threads about it  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 14:41
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I cannot wait to get my hands on the new album, I've already pre-ordered it! So it's a 10 for me. |
Posted By: DASistGrantTeeL
Date Posted: August 10 2009 at 20:03
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7 or 8 hopefully it sounds like TSMS ------------- "This dream is all I’ve ever wanted, Cared for, I only hope things haven’t changed when I awake…" |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: August 10 2009 at 20:34
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Have just pre-ordered the standard version - deluxe just a little too much out of my price range and - I would really want to be sure that I was getting my monies worth. Out of 10 - I would go at this point 6 or 7. We really can't judge until we hear it! ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: MrPlow
Date Posted: August 10 2009 at 20:36
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: August 10 2009 at 21:09
That sounds about right. |
Moatilliatta wrote:Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 10 2009 at 22:20
Put me on the 3 train. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: August 10 2009 at 22:29
Put me on the 8 Train.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 10 2009 at 23:37
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LOOK AT THIS NEW AND EXCITING TOPIC (don't worry OP, I don't hate you  )------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 07:08
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I'd really like to get the deluxe edition, but $100.00, ouch.
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 07:42
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Well, after having heard Time Flies a 6, maybe a 7. I really hope the rest of the album will be better. ------------- 
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Posted By: Johnny_Tsunami
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 08:13
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I'd say 10. . . But yeah, we should stop talking about it and let the anticipation build for a while! The Archives are just flooded with PT topics! ------------- I likes musics |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 12:07
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Probably a 4 or 5. I like PT, but not nearly as much as many other people do.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 12:48
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Hi,
If I were an artist .. I would make sure and not give a cahoot about you guys rating me!
I'm surprised that you are not rating Brittany Spears ... not bad looking body, if you ask me .,.. and at least you know you don't get a doll! That rates more like ... woman ... not doll ...
In this case ... do you want music or do you want a doll? Then go rate Beethoven if you are bored!
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Posted By: Synchestra
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 02:49
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was about a 9, but after hearing the trailor its about a 7. it was good, but it wasnt Deadwing or FOABP good. ------------- 'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 15:13
Yes, because we all know how bands repeating something they've already done is 'hella progressive'! |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: August 12 2009 at 23:03
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^^ Heh, after all the talk of PT copying tunes... |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: August 13 2009 at 10:08
I'm actually counting the days my friends...  ------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: August 19 2009 at 21:02
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Can't wait for it! 9 ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 18:39
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8 probably.
By the way please quit basing your opinion of the album on the single people, it's just one song and it's a really chopped down edit version too ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 18:42
I'm counting the days for the new Transatlantic. Heck, I even have the date on my calender!  Porcupine Tree is not on the calender  -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 18:47
ouch... not exactly endearing praise to those that thought those albums were Deadboring and have Fear Of A Ballyhooed Performance ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 18:57
Actually ... it should be a good indication to those people that they should stay the hell away from the new album (and any threads about it  )------------- What? |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 31 2009 at 18:59
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good point...
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: hirszu
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 06:39
Who else finds Time Flies really similar to Pink Floyd's Dogs? Copying is not nice 
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 06:44
There was a fair bit of discussion about this when it was released, but I don't think its that much of a problem... I wouldn't say its copied either, influenced at best. ------------- 
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Posted By: clouds41
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 09:09
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10+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I can not wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 09:42
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i'am pretty much dissapointed with the new album.. ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk
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Posted By: paulwalker71
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 09:46
A solid 8 for me. Looking forward to it 
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Posted By: Badabing666
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 09:58
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That would be an 8 for me
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 09:58
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I'm actually looking forward for the new album. Everything I've heard from it has been effing disappointing, as if the band hadn't developed at all between this and the latter, and as if they never wanted to. And that's not a nice thing to do to a fan who's expecting something groundbreaking again. Of course if you say, that it's not fair to set the expectations too high everytime, then why expect anything. I mean, if it's going to be a 10, there's a lot more there, than most bands could ever come up with, but if you expect a 4, why even expect anything? What do I know really? I know, that I expect an album no better than 6, and basically one that's just repeating FOABP, just doing it for a longer period of time. But, I have this itch in the back of my head... could be epilepsy too... but I feel like they're going to come up with something unexpected. Something I'd never have hoped for. It's been done: Pure Reason Revolution for one ;). Soo I expect a boring album... but I also expect my expectations not to come true. |
Posted By: DTFANIAM
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 10:12
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Can anyone say Caress of Steel? Like that great album of Rush's, this album will separate the true fans from the amateurs (same theme (in a sense) as well). It is very complex but gets exceeding better with each listen (like Radiohead's OK Computer - if you can remember the first few times you listened to it). I really like it!! Can't wait to get my hands on my VINYL!!!! ------------- John Gregs |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 11:36
If it's like OK Computer or Caress of Steel I will like it the moment I hear it. |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: September 04 2009 at 12:15
Huh? ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: progger7
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 11:57
| i'm a little bit dissapointed by it but, it's still a good effort. about half of the songs are good. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 16:47
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 17:32
Dude I've never read such a mess of a post. Could you explain this for someone who speaks English?  -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 17:47
I think he's saying we should rate Britanny Spears highly because she has a "no bad looking body", but thats a bad way to rate people. And also, if he/she was Britanny Spears, he wouldn't care what we rated him/her. -------------
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 17:57
I guess you could say that -------------
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Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: September 10 2009 at 23:31
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I'll be sure to tell you what I think of it when I get home tonight! I just bought it!
------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 11 2009 at 05:25
Same here
Its very, very, very good! I've (admittedly) only given it two full listens so far, but I really like what I've heard. The first disc (well, I guess THE INCIDENT) is much better than the second... The second isn't that great. -------------
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Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 12:08
| I am listening to disk one right now and I have to say I am greatly disappointed thus far. I hope disk two is better. |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 12:13
Disc 2 isn't any better, but is more consistent. it does contain Bonnie The Cat though, which is a great track in the style of FOABP. The preview for sure had the greatest moments from the album... and I think the full album is very inconsistent. It has some fantastic highlights such as The Blind House and The Incident, but also lot of weak, uninteresting and even boring moments. Overall I think it's a pretty good album... it's not their best, but it's definitely in the top 5 of them IMO. -------------
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 12:20
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^Hmmm, I thought Bonnie the Cat was awful. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 12:35
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Has anyone seen the Time Flies video yet? If not, here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8jm61vk2Ao - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8jm61vk2Ao Pretty nice vid IMO! -------------
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Posted By: hirszu
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 13:09
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The video is really good, but the songs sucks
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 13:17
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Time Flies is actually my favorite part of the whole album. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 14:09
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at first listen i didn't like the album, but after few spins now i like it a lot..very good album..Drawing the line, Octane Twisted , Remember me lover.. so many good songs.. ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 14:57
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I'm picking mine up on Tuesday and looking forward to it. I haven't really kept up with the thread, but how is the sound/mood of The Incident? Have they broken new ground or anything? E ------------- 
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 15:16
I didn't like the single edit, and I still don't like the verses and choruses in the full song, but the middle part really is good indeed. -------------
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 15:22
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I thought I'd hate it when I first started listening but it grew on me really fast. Disc 2 is really good, I like that really mellow song, Black Dahlia, I think it was called... when I first heard the album the songs from disc 2 were mixed in with the songs from disc 1 and it worked really well that way. :P Anyway, overall not Stupid Dream or In Absentia but I might like it more than Fear of a Blank Planet.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 15:24
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^Yea, the middle part is really what makes it great. I like the feel of the verses, despite bearing obvious similarities to Dogs. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:06
I wasn't a fan of "Time Flies", and sadly, I think it is the best song on the album. This is certainly a disappointment. |
Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:08
Disc 2 is a little bit better, but still way underwhelming. I'm really disappointed with this album. |
Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:33
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Sigh. I just keep wishing they would come out and say this is a joke and then present the real new album. Unfortunately, this is the real thing and I can't get into it. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:47
Well, (thankfully) its not really in the style of FOABP, and as most Porcupine Tree albums do, it feels different to most others they've released. The mood is fairly dark the entire way through, but there's not really any new ground broken - Sure, its great, but its nothing incredibly special or unique like THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS, although its still very good and features some interesting textures and mood swings. Hope you enjoy it Eric
-Joel -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 01:49
What don't you like about it, if you don't mind me asking? -------------
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 02:43
I think the album's sound has quite a lot similarities with FOABP. The mood is very dark, like FOABP, there are some parts where the synth is very present, like FOABP, and there even are some actual connections to FOABP; like the main riff from The Blind House, which is made out of the same chords as a riff from Anesthetize. I think songs like The Incident, Bonnie The Cat, The Blind House, Circle Of Manias and maybe even Time Flies (for the middle part) would fit in pretty good on FOABP. -------------
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Posted By: intensedaz
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 10:47
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Just received the Incident via courier a couple of hours ago and finished my first spin.
Don't be too quick to judge folks , give it a few spins. I think the expectation level has been so high for this album it was always going to be a bit of an anti-climax for some Have too say I'm enjoying it ------------- Find a job you love and never work another day in your life |
Posted By: paulwalker71
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 12:20
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Give it time people. I'm giving it a first listen right now, and liking what I'm hearing But I won't really judge it for a few days |
Posted By: magicmarty666
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 13:45
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Well I am on the 3rd listen, and still struggeling to decide.
The 2nd disc is winning for me.
I am still going to see them in Leeds in October ------------- Lighting the best in the North East of England |
Posted By: inrainbows
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:21
that's right ------------- 
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Posted By: hirszu
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 17:26
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The funny thing is that only the new album is rated with 5 stars on PT page. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=290 |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 18:27
It's been like that with practically all big releases by big prog bands. Bar none. Check back in a year for a somewhat valid overall rating. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 19:16
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I have heard it a few times now, and I think its great. I applaud Wilson for not just delivering a carbon copy of FOABP, but going in a completely different direction.
'The Blind House', 'Kneel And Disconnect', 'Drawing the Line', 'The Incident', 'Octane Twisted', and 'Bonnie The Cat' are my favourite songs so far. I think there's a much darker ambience around this album. I suspect there might be an Opeth influence. In fact, ever since Steve Wilson worked with them, I think both bands have influenced each other a lot. ------------- Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while... |
Posted By: rushaholic
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 19:45
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Good album - like the new direction and change. |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:08
I'm with you Kashmir, there's a few spots I swear Wilson is copying Mike's clean vocal style..
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:11
What is this unique clean vocal style...? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Plankowner
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:24
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Who? |
Posted By: Johnny_Tsunami
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:25
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I'm really glad I kinda backed off PT for about a month and a half before the album came out. I'm gonna try and pick it up tomorrow, based on the iTunes 30 second samples (lol) it sounds pretty decent. ------------- I likes musics |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 00:43
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I'm a tremendous PT fanboy and yet this is probably the largest disappointment of the past few years for me. It's a very weak and underwhelming album. I've listened to it 6 times I believe and each time I do so, I actually like it less. My opinions: Disc 1: I quite like: The Seance (That acoustic riff at the end is the coolest riff on the whole album) Octane Twisted Kneel and Disconnect Time Flies The Yellow Windows of the Evening Train (reminds me of Sigur Ros) I like: I Drive the Hearse Circle of Manias(Cool mathy track.) Occam's Razor/The Blind House (Pretty cool beginning, has more energy than anything else on the album) I don't like: The Incident I really dislike: Drawing the Line - teh fakk is dis sh*tt/?? By far the worst thing Steven Wilson has ever participated in. Great Expectations Neutral/Undecided: Your Unpleasent Familly Degree Zero of Liberty And from Disc 2: I quite like: Flicker Bonnie the Cat (Very unique track. Awesome bass playing & drumming.) I don't like: Remember me Lover Neutral: Black Dahlia What's with the swearing in the lyrics? It makes the already bad lyrics even worse... Immature, IMO. I hope Porcupine Tree does make another album eventually, for the sole reason that this one is simply not good enough to act as the signature on their discography... More importantly, I hope that the next one is better than this one. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 01:38
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I found the first disc to be incredibly inconsistent. It had good moments, but some laughably bad ones as well. Second disc is overall a bit better, but still not that great. To be honest, I don't like their new "proggier" direction. Prefer the good old Deadwing days. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 01:40
I prefer the good old UP THE DOWNSTAIR days
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 06:31
I prefer the good old Fear Of A Blank Planet days.  By the way, Dalezilla, I think Deadwing is one of the bands most progressive albums so far... and apart from the concept, I don't think The Incident is very progressive at all. -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 06:36
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^^
I agree on the part about The Incident not being very progressive, but I don't agree about Deadwing being very prog. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 07:21
I like the diversity of the PT discography. And if I can find a copy for sale locally, I'll be trying out the new one today. Rather excited. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 07:59
I don't HATE it... But it just isn't very interesting. It lacks the creativity, the soundscapes, and the songwriting that made most of their other albums successful. I loved their last five albums so I was bound to be disappointed sooner or later I guess. |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 11:32
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^Agreed. Maybe after PT really blew up with Fear of a Blank Planet, Steven Wilson tried a bit too hard to make a stellar, epic follow-up. The result is that it sounds a bit forced, among other things. Not bad, but not great. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 12:12
Deadwing progressive? Please elaborate. And as far as The Incident goes, I just prefer PT when they're more straightforward and not so meandery. |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 12:13
Agree with this. Forced is the word I've been looking for. |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 12:27
Arriving Somewhere is one of the most progressive songs the band has made, as it has lots of different riffs, parts, and styles in 12 minutes. (soundscapes, verses, heavy part, ambient guitar solo, etc. The title track also is a very strong structured song, like Arriving Somewhere. Mellotron Scratch, The Start Of Something Beautiful, and Glass Arm Shattering don't have a basic structure either, mostly because the second half of these songs are pretty different from the first halfs (ok, Start Of... not that much). Also, the album is a concept album, which doesn't have to be progressive, but because of it the songs have a certain order and move towards the dramatic end, making much progress on the way onto that end. I do agree with you that the remaining songs (Shallow, Lazarus, Halo and Open Car) aren't very progressive though. -------------
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 13:34
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I've only listened to The Incident a couple times so far, but I already like it more than FOABP, which was awful, even compared to Nil Recurring.
Right now I think the album suffers from being too long for its own good. There are some great moments and some bad ones, and some things that just drag. I already like the 2nd disc better than the first, though the doom metal title track is fabulous. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 14:13
Fair enough. |
Posted By: trili
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 21:33
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I've listened the album a couple of turned now...
There are not too many, if any, great memorable melodies. Time flies is a Dogs rip off. I know he likes Floyd but... That is not a 55 minutes song. And if the hype meant a 55 minutes concept, what's so new about that? It's not a bad album, but it's not great either. To me, Insugentes it's a better PT album. There's a KC's Red melody in the 2nd song I think. I like the production very much. ------------- https://oddjohnhawkins.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: September 15 2009 at 21:39
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I just picked it up at the mall a couple of hours ago. I couldn't find the album at first, but it wasn't with the rest of the PT albums. I just started listening to it now so it's way too early to comment on it. Edit: Finished the first listen. It will definitely need some time. Not bad. Not spectacular. |
Posted By: Starless
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 07:07
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Like all the other posts, my opinion is obviously subjective, so if it annoys you, chill ! IMO The Incident is PT's best album since Signify and stomps all over the disjointed mess that was FAOBP, which conversely was their worst album since Signify. In Time Flies I believe they have written a live anthem that might put Even Less on the subs bench, and by the way it's an homage to Pink Floyd, not a copy.
Those of you who are of the mp3 generation should try listening to it on a decent hi-fi (remember them?) with the volume cranked up really high - simply awesome!
------------- Beware of the flowers, cos they're gonna get you yet! |
Posted By: BLITZKRIEG
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 07:18
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well, After my first 2 listens, I didn't like the album much. But giving it more listens, the songs grew on me. especially those filler songs. The chorus of Drawing the line is absolutely horrible. I wonder how the incredible Steven Wilson came up with something like that. Besides that, most of the songs are good. My favourite part is the verse in Remember me Lover. Time Flies is epic to say the least. Other songs I like are The Incident, Blind House. Great Expectations, Kneel and Disconnect. |
Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 07:29
I couldn't disagree more. |
Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 07:32
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I think for any other band (or at least a non-prog band), it would be a good album. But since Porcupine Tree has consistently made albums waaaaay better than this one, I just can't get into it. |
Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 10:47
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It's a fairly typical double album, just too much material, and not enough of it good. There's enough in here for a killer, killer single album, but that's true with just about every highly regarded double album that isn't "Double Nickels on the Dime" I really like the title track, though. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 11:25
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So do you guys think it's actually prog, or not? I'm never going to buy it, I'm just curious because I don't see much prog in PT from In Abstentia on so I am baffled by this whole phenomenon.
75 minutes hardly counts as a double album. They only would have had to edit five minutes out and it would have been a single, and I have trouble believing that 5 minutes makes the difference between boring and a killer, killer album. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 11:34
| It does when you think the ideal album length is around one hour. (I've always thought the CD 80-minute mark is overstepping for most artists, but that's another discussion altogether) |
Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: September 16 2009 at 11:38
| Put it this way; one of my favorite examples of a double album hiding a brilliant single album was "Exile on Main St.", which fits on a single CD these days. |