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Thanks for the post Steve !  Have you ever seen h perform " au naturel" ?
Steve in Montreal.
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Originally posted by Progfan1958 Progfan1958 wrote:

Thanks for the post Steve !  Have you ever seen h perform " au naturel" ?
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Afraid not Steve. I suppose the closest I came to it was the Welsh Walls Restaurant gig in Oswestry at the time of Radiation being mixed. This was an acoustic gig by the band, and can still be obtained from Racket Records - well worth it, BTW.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Progfan1958 Progfan1958 wrote:

Thanks for the post Steve !  Have you ever seen h perform " au naturel" ?
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Afraid not Steve. I suppose the closest I came to it was the Welsh Walls Restaurant gig in Oswestry at the time of Radiation being mixed. This was an acoustic gig by the band, and can still be obtained from Racket Records - well worth it, BTW.
I have the DL of the Walls show, and you are right, it's very good. I had tried to get h ( though Lucy ) to do a brief h Natural afternoon set at a local pub next april when the band are in for the Montreal week-end, but unfortunately it go nixed...too much singing over the three evenings for Steve do do more than that I'm afraid. I was going to see if he would do some local artist songs ( Leonard Cohen, Arcade Fire )  Oh well, maybe one day,
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Damn, Boys!! Where's the thread dedicated to the best band on the planet been lately? This'll kick start things.

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You are absolutely right - mayby it's due to the hollidays, but we once were such a lively thread!Shocked
I have always liked this song very much: it has very powerful vocals in particular and definitely is one of the highlights of the album together with The Party and The Rakes Progress/100 Nights. Though I'd say HiE is not one of their best albums.
 
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My favorites from that album:

1. The Party
2. Waiting to Happen
3. No One Can Take You Away From Me
4. The Splintering Heart

Everything else is pretty ok. I probably like this album more than a discerning prog fan should, but whatever.
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It's not one of my favorites either, but it's middle tier. I really like "Splintering Heart", "Cover My Eyes (Pain And Heaven)", "The Party" and "This Town/Rakes Progress/100 Nights" a lot, though.

The band doesn't really care for this one either. I like how they thumbed their noses to the record company suits and created the brilliant Brave disc, though.

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The band doesn't really care for this one either. I like how they thumbed their noses to the record company suits and created the brilliant Brave disc, though.

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Yes, you don't  have to like Marillion, but you have to credit them for living for their music and not for Top of the Pops or huge sales. They've always disliked being assigned to labels like EMI, which have always tried to force - well, mayby not 'force', but defenitely 'push' - the band to make music according to the presentday tastes of the masses. Sometimes they've given in more than other times like they did when they were creating Hollidays in Eden, I guess. As a reaction to this they've come up with the fantastic Brave. And when their contract was finally drawing to an end and they only had to make one more album, we really have to credit the band for not producing a sloppy, commercial album, but instead for coming up with the emotional Afraid of Sunlight. Then you know that a band really loves the music they make!
 
Of course, I don't want to discredit Hollidays in Eden, because it has some very emotive songs too - think of Waiting to Happen, Dry Land and Cover My Eyes (Pain and Heaven) - but it's just not up there with the Marillion stuff we've come to be used to.
 
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Sky televsion showed the High Voltage festival highlights on their Arts channel last night, and the Marillion contribution was Neverland. It sounded fantastic, especially given it was an outdoor performance. I have a feeling that the band will have won quite a few new friends with that appearance.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Sky televsion showed the High Voltage festival highlights on their Arts channel last night, and the Marillion contribution was Neverland. It sounded fantastic, especially given it was an outdoor performance. I have a feeling that the band will have won quite a few new friends with that appearance.
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Originally posted by Basíleia Basíleia wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Sky televsion showed the High Voltage festival highlights on their Arts channel last night, and the Marillion contribution was Neverland. It sounded fantastic, especially given it was an outdoor performance. I have a feeling that the band will have won quite a few new friends with that appearance.
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One thing I've been wondering about is the next album. I thought it was a good decision to go off to a place different from the Racket Club to light a spark of creativity. Wonder what (if any) influence this will have on the new album. Surely Friday night will be Holidays In Eden and it's b-sides, then showcasing new songs.

As much as Somewhere Else was the anti-Marbles, and Happiness was the anti-Somewhere Else, I'm having a tough time picturing the next album. This band just refuses to remain stagnant and are always trying new things. I would like to see a change in producer. Well, maybe not so much a change as I would like to see the return of Dave Meegan. Mike Hunter did do a darn good job with Happiness, though.

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Happiness has a nice airy quality to the songs and the flow of the album, but it's a sin that the band sounds so sleepy on it. The mixing was just not the best.
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Happiness has a nice airy quality to the songs and the flow of the album, but it's a sin that the band sounds so sleepy on it. The mixing was just not the best.


I think that's what I liked about Somewhere Else was the album began with the rockers.

As for Happiness, I think it would've worked better as a single disc. I still can't get into "Threw Me Out", "Older Than Me" and "Especially True". IMO, these songs are worse than anything off Somewhere Else.

Maybe the next should be a happy medium between the two?

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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Happiness has a nice airy quality to the songs and the flow of the album, but it's a sin that the band sounds so sleepy on it. The mixing was just not the best.


I think that's what I liked about Somewhere Else was the album began with the rockers.

As for Happiness, I think it would've worked better as a single disc. I still can't get into "Threw Me Out", "Older Than Me" and "Especially True". IMO, these songs are worse than anything off Somewhere Else.

Maybe the next should be a happy medium between the two?

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Well I adore HitR, much more so than Somewhere Else. It might have worked better as one disc, but it's still pretty solid. I'm not talking about the structure of the songs so much or how they are arranged, it's just the production is too monotonous throughout the record, which serves atmospheric songs like "Liquidity" and "The Man from the Planet Marzipan" just fine, but songs like "Woke Up" and "Thunder Fly" lack the immediacy their nature demands.

It's probably Marillion's greatest flaw. The band has such a penchant for the atmospheric that it often doesn't give the songs the life they need until they're preformed live.
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My first experience of Marillion was at the Reading Festival in 1983, and I 've been hooked ever since. Prefer Hogarth era, and think Steve Rothery is one of the most sublime guitarists on the planet.
My neighbour is in a band called Mr So and So, who have supported Marillion, and have a member who is also in The Wishing Tree, but I can't remember the dudes name.Embarrassed. They were awesome at High Voltage!Star
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^^Man, this is actually quite nice!!!

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Have just watched the High Voltage footage of Marillion - and I appeared in it briefly...giving it the old 'head-banging' there in the crowd. Despite H being totally pissed (drunk) and displaying some alcohol driven stage antics I have never seen before from him - his performance was pretty amazing - as was that of the rest of the band. 
Marillion, for me, were the highlight of a very long (but incredible) day, which was made even better by the fact that I was there with my 21 year old daughter! (who, credit to me, is also a major prog rock fan.)
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Happiness has a nice airy quality to the songs and the flow of the album, but it's a sin that the band sounds so sleepy on it. The mixing was just not the best.


I think that's what I liked about Somewhere Else was the album began with the rockers.

As for Happiness, I think it would've worked better as a single disc. I still can't get into "Threw Me Out", "Older Than Me" and "Especially True". IMO, these songs are worse than anything off Somewhere Else.

Maybe the next should be a happy medium between the two?

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Well I adore HitR, much more so than Somewhere Else. It might have worked better as one disc, but it's still pretty solid. I'm not talking about the structure of the songs so much or how they are arranged, it's just the production is too monotonous throughout the record, which serves atmospheric songs like "Liquidity" and "The Man from the Planet Marzipan" just fine, but songs like "Woke Up" and "Thunder Fly" lack the immediacy their nature demands.

It's probably Marillion's greatest flaw. The band has such a penchant for the atmospheric that it often doesn't give the songs the life they need until they're preformed live.
 
Yes, I think you're right there, it probably is Marillions greatest flaw, though I have to admit I find nothing wrong with songs like "Woke Up" or "Thunder Fly": I can see why the former misses some energy in some's opinion, but I think it is a bit in the nature of that song to be 'easy'. I also happen to quite like the easygoing songs from the second half of the second CDEmbarrassed Especially "Older than Me" and "Escpecially True". I do, however, agree with you guys that the overall album sometimes just is a bit too atmospheric... Like Eric's said, Marillion is never stagnant, therefore I am very excited about hearing the new album.
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