Would you consider Rush's music Eclectic Prog?? |
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Kati
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:54 | |||||
When and if I get the chance I'd definitely pay and go to see a Rush concert, no doubt coz it's awesome live, however I am not a fan, they remind me of the Chipmunks, maybe because of Geddy's vocals (especially the earlier albums) and Neil Peart yes jajaja I know he is a brilliant drummer right there at the top, I have read their biography inc. Peart's tho'.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:55 | |||||
then he should just say that instead |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:56 | |||||
The Chipmunks |
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rogerthat
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 21:18 | |||||
Actually, he did say that he does not consider it music, he didn't claim that it isn't. Yes, there's a difference when you frame an opinion as clearly referring to your personal tastes and preferences or as simply forcing it as a generalization on others. You clearly haven't learnt that distinction yet.
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 02:45 | |||||
...pot...kettle... |
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ProgressiveMike
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 16:55 | |||||
I have an idea, if you don't like Rush then go post somewhere else. No one wants to read negativity. We're all prog fans and that in itself should bind us instead of stabbing at eachothers preference within the prog sphere. if you want to make some sly ass remark about Rush like "THEY SOUND LIKE THE CHIPMUNKS JAJAJAJA!" or "I DON"T CONSIDER RUSH MUSIC!" then go post something on another topic please and thank you. it doesn't sound cool by the way to trash on one of the greatest bands to live |
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 16:57 | |||||
but if everyone only posted "i love rush so much!!!" and no one ever gave any other perspectives or opinions then there would be no discussion and it would just be a circle jerk of rush fanboys
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:04 | |||||
Yeah, if it's his early vocals you don't like, you would surely prefer their live sound. His voice sounds very full and powerful, as does the whole band; just compare the studio version of Natural Science to the one on Different Stages. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:04 | |||||
Yeah it was a stupid thing for him to say. Trolling really .
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ProgressiveMike
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:12 | |||||
The question isn't whether or not Rush is a decent band. The question is where do they fall as far as prog rock goes, which is an interesting question considering they've only done a handful of bonafide conceptual prog albums. It's almost like the others have street cred because of what came before, or in some cases what came after. If they only released Power Windows would anyone consider them a prog band? Probably not. Eclectic is probably not a strong enough term to describe the manner in which Rush plows forward with no regard for precedent.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:53 | |||||
can't we say the same for other bands???? you just contradicted yourself Sumdeus |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:54 | |||||
I could say the same thing for you but i will not |
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rogerthat
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 18:22 | |||||
You will not because I haven't. I haven't said any goddamn negative thing about Rush or any other of 'your' favourite bands in this thread many of which, by the way, happen to be my favourites as well.
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Kati
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 18:40 | |||||
ProgressiveMike, I did not mean to offend you or anyone else for that matter, my sincere apologies seeing you took offense. This is a discussion forum, whatever I say will not make any difference whatsoever to the band (it has no affect on them), nothing; it’s like air or a tiny drop in the ocean really. They are well established musicians, excellent musicians in fact with a huge fan base/ following. They are not my preference choice considering the abundance of other choices available, but this is ok too. The remark chipmunk was meant as a joke, because Geddy has a high pitched voice. In terms of major bands my views are less radical compared to yours (new and struggling bands I not rather not comment if their music is not particularly my taste) i.e. David Byron is one of my all-time favorite vocalist, his vocals are instrumental yet I still jokingly say he looked like a club54/Saturday night fever, gay porn star. Again my sincere apologies, I meant it as a joke maybe it was in poor taste and not appropriate for sensitive and loving fans. |
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 19:03 | |||||
how did i contradict myself? where did i previously say people shouldn't post if they don't like something? if you're referring to the KC thing with you, we've told you multiple times the issue was not that you don't like KC but the way you tried to force it upon others and acted like your taste was superior |
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ProgressiveMike
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 19:51 | |||||
Thank you Kati. I'm sorry that I got so upset over the comment. Just to let you know I work at a record store where I am constantly in shock and disgust at what people acutally purchase but I understand it's all a matter of opinion and I applaude the fact that they aren't illegally downloading their music instead. Anyway the music I play in store is constantly criticized and I've grown a little defensive over the years when someone trashes music I love. Not that it has changed my behavior or my preferences one bit. Except that I don't play the Residents anymore lol.
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cstack3
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Posted: January 13 2013 at 21:08 | |||||
...this forum gets much too serious! It's called a joke. And, I know what is meant about KC barely being music, some of it is damn horrible. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 06:25 | |||||
It was a joke? Wow that was well hidden. I didn't catch it. But thought it a wierd comment from you. Maybe tyhere was the clue....
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 23:08 | |||||
I'm not talking about bands I was talking about myself You clearly haven't learnt that distinction yet. |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 23:10 | |||||
I never forced anything upon anyone |
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