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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:54
Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

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I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.
 
When and if I get the chance I'd definitely pay and go to see a Rush concert, no doubt coz it's awesome live, however I am not a fan, they remind me of the Chipmunks, maybe because of Geddy's vocals (especially the earlier albums) and Neil Peart yes jajaja I know he is a brilliant drummer right there at the top, I have read their biography inc. Peart's tho'. Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:55
Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

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I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.


then he should just say that instead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:56
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 
I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.
 
When and if I get the chance I'd definitely pay and go to see a Rush concert, no doubt coz it's awesome live, however I am not a fan, they remind me of the Chipmunks, maybe because of Geddy's vocals (especially the earlier albums) and Neil Peart yes jajaja I know he is a brilliant drummer right there at the top, I have read their biography inc. Peart's tho'. Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 21:18
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 
I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.


then he should just say that instead

Actually, he did say that he does not consider it music, he didn't claim that it isn't.   Yes, there's a difference when you frame an opinion as clearly referring to your personal tastes and preferences or as simply forcing it as a generalization on others.  You clearly haven't learnt that distinction yet.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 02:45
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 
I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.


then he should just say that instead

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 16:55

I have an idea, if you don't like Rush then go post somewhere else. No one wants to read negativity. We're all prog fans and that in itself should bind us instead of stabbing at eachothers preference within the prog sphere. if you want to make some sly ass remark about Rush like "THEY SOUND LIKE THE CHIPMUNKS JAJAJAJA!" or "I DON"T CONSIDER RUSH MUSIC!" then go post something on another topic please and thank you. it doesn't sound cool by the way to trash on one of the greatest bands to live

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 16:57
but if everyone only posted "i love rush so much!!!" and no one ever gave any other perspectives or opinions then there would be no discussion and it would just be a circle jerk of rush fanboys
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:04
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 
I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.
 
When and if I get the chance I'd definitely pay and go to see a Rush concert, no doubt coz it's awesome live, however I am not a fan, they remind me of the Chipmunks, maybe because of Geddy's vocals (especially the earlier albums) and Neil Peart yes jajaja I know he is a brilliant drummer right there at the top, I have read their biography inc. Peart's tho'. Smile


Yeah, if it's his early vocals you don't like, you would surely prefer their live sound.  His voice sounds very full and powerful, as does the whole band; just compare the studio version of Natural Science to the one on Different Stages.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:04
Originally posted by ProgressiveMike ProgressiveMike wrote:

I have an idea, if you don't like Rush then go post somewhere else. No one wants to read negativity. We're all prog fans and that in itself should bind us instead of stabbing at eachothers preference within the prog sphere. if you want to make some sly ass remark about Rush like "THEY SOUND LIKE THE CHIPMUNKS JAJAJAJA!" or "I DON"T CONSIDER RUSH MUSIC!" then go post something on another topic please and thank you. it doesn't sound cool by the way to trash on one of the greatest bands to live


Yeah it was a stupid thing for him to say. Trolling really .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:12
The question isn't whether or not Rush is a decent band. The question is where do they fall as far as prog rock goes, which is an interesting question considering they've only done a handful of bonafide conceptual prog albums. It's almost like the others have street cred because of what came before, or in some cases what came after. If they only released Power Windows would anyone consider them a prog band? Probably not. Eclectic is probably not a strong enough term to describe the manner in which Rush plows forward with no regard for precedent.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:53
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

but if everyone only posted "i love rush so much!!!" and no one ever gave any other perspectives or opinions then there would be no discussion and it would just be a circle jerk of rush fanboys


can't we say the same for other bands???? you just contradicted yourself Sumdeus
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 17:54
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 
I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.


then he should just say that instead

Actually, he did say that he does not consider it music, he didn't claim that it isn't.   Yes, there's a difference when you frame an opinion as clearly referring to your personal tastes and preferences or as simply forcing it as a generalization on others.  You clearly haven't learnt that distinction yet.   


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 18:22
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 
I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.


then he should just say that instead

Actually, he did say that he does not consider it music, he didn't claim that it isn't.   Yes, there's a difference when you frame an opinion as clearly referring to your personal tastes and preferences or as simply forcing it as a generalization on others.  You clearly haven't learnt that distinction yet.   


I could say the same thing for you but i will not

You will not because I haven't.  I haven't said any goddamn negative thing about Rush or any other of 'your' favourite bands in this thread many of which, by the way, happen to be my favourites as well.   


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 18:40
Originally posted by ProgressiveMike ProgressiveMike wrote:

I have an idea, if you don't like Rush then go post somewhere else. No one wants to read negativity. We're all prog fans and that in itself should bind us instead of stabbing at eachothers preference within the prog sphere. if you want to make some sly ass remark about Rush like "THEY SOUND LIKE THE CHIPMUNKS JAJAJAJA!" or "I DON"T CONSIDER RUSH MUSIC!" then go post something on another topic please and thank you. it doesn't sound cool by the way to trash on one of the greatest bands to live

ProgressiveMike, I did not mean to offend you or anyone else for that matter, my sincere apologies seeing you took offense. This is a discussion forum, whatever I say will not make any difference whatsoever to the band (it has no affect on them), nothing; it’s like air or a tiny drop in the ocean really. They are well established musicians, excellent musicians in fact with a huge fan base/ following. They are not my preference choice considering the abundance of other choices available, but this is ok too. The remark chipmunk was meant as a joke, because Geddy has a high pitched voice. In terms of major bands my views are less radical compared to yours (new and struggling bands I not rather not comment if their music is not particularly my taste) i.e. David Byron is one of my all-time favorite vocalist, his vocals are instrumental yet I still jokingly say he looked like a club54/Saturday night fever, gay porn star.  Big smile

Again my sincere apologies, I meant it as a joke maybe it was in poor taste and not appropriate for sensitive and loving fans. Ouch

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 19:03
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

but if everyone only posted "i love rush so much!!!" and no one ever gave any other perspectives or opinions then there would be no discussion and it would just be a circle jerk of rush fanboys


can't we say the same for other bands???? you just contradicted yourself Sumdeus


how did i contradict myself? where did i previously say people shouldn't post if they don't like something? if you're referring to the KC thing with you, we've told you multiple times the issue was not that you don't like KC but the way you tried to force it upon others and acted like your taste was superior
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 19:51
Thank you Kati. I'm sorry that I got so upset over the comment. Just to let you know I work at a record store where I am constantly in shock and disgust at what people acutally purchase but I understand it's all a matter of opinion and I applaude the fact that they aren't illegally downloading their music instead. Anyway the music I play in store is constantly criticized and I've grown a little defensive over the years when someone trashes music I love. Not that it has changed my behavior or my preferences one bit. Except that I don't play the Residents anymore lol.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 21:08
Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

In all honesty, I barely consider it music.  

There.  I said it.  


In all honesty, I barely consider King Crimson music

There. I said it

I don't see how that was relevantErmm

...this forum gets much too serious!  It's called a joke.  LOL

And, I know what is meant about KC barely being music, some of it is damn horrible.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2013 at 06:25
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

In all honesty, I barely consider it music.  

There.  I said it.  


In all honesty, I barely consider King Crimson music

There. I said it

I don't see how that was relevantErmm

...this forum gets much too serious!  It's called a joke.  LOL

And, I know what is meant about KC barely being music, some of it is damn horrible.  


It was a joke?Confused Wow that was well hidden. I didn't catch it. But thought it a wierd comment from you. Maybe tyhere was the clue....Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2013 at 23:08
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by mister nobody mister nobody wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

 
I'll admit its a bit of a stretch but what gives Cstack3 the right to say it's not music because it is?
I'm not sure, but I think he didn't really mean that it "isn't music" literally, but rather as a phrase to describe his dislike for Rush.


then he should just say that instead

Actually, he did say that he does not consider it music, he didn't claim that it isn't.   Yes, there's a difference when you frame an opinion as clearly referring to your personal tastes and preferences or as simply forcing it as a generalization on others.  You clearly haven't learnt that distinction yet.   


I could say the same thing for you but i will not

You will not because I haven't.  I haven't said any goddamn negative thing about Rush or any other of 'your' favourite bands in this thread many of which, by the way, happen to be my favourites as well.   


I'm not talking about bands I was talking about myself

 You clearly haven't learnt that distinction yet.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2013 at 23:10
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

but if everyone only posted "i love rush so much!!!" and no one ever gave any other perspectives or opinions then there would be no discussion and it would just be a circle jerk of rush fanboys


can't we say the same for other bands???? you just contradicted yourself Sumdeus


how did i contradict myself? where did i previously say people shouldn't post if they don't like something? if you're referring to the KC thing with you, we've told you multiple times the issue was not that you don't like KC but the way you tried to force it upon others and acted like your taste was superior


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