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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:25 |
 Tony R wrote:
At the moment most of the music that consensus says is "difficult" is totally impenetrable to me.However this site is gradually refining and re-defining my tastes !
I am at a stage where I find GG and VDGG "difficult" and Magma "crap" (that's not to say they that are,just that I find them totally dissonant )
However 12 months ago GG and VDGG were at the "crap" stage so I am making progress!
In 6 months time I expect to be liking GG,appreciating VDGG and finding Magma difficult.
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Did you try a little Mr. Bungle, Fantomas or Dillinger Escape Plan? Just for variety ...
BTW: Love your Monty Python signature! It really describes forum discussions quite accurately.
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:31 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
At the moment most of the music that consensus says is "difficult" is totally impenetrable to me.However this site is gradually refining and re-defining my tastes !
I am at a stage where I find GG and VDGG "difficult" and Magma "crap" (that's not to say they that are,just that I find them totally dissonant )
However 12 months ago GG and VDGG were at the "crap" stage so I am making progress!
In 6 months time I expect to be liking GG,appreciating VDGG and finding Magma difficult.
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Did you try a little Mr. Bungle, Fantomas or Dillinger Escape Plan? Just for variety ...
Sure did,ouch,arggh,ouch!
BTW: Love your Monty Python signature! It really describes forum discussions quite accurately.
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That is totally unfair!!! on the other forum members-it describes my forum discussions very accurately!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:33 |
Tony R wrote:
That is totally unfair!!! on the other forum members-it describes my forum discussions very accurately!
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No it isn't.
Edit: So you liked none of them (Bungle, Fantomas, Dillinger)?
Edited by MikeEnRegalia
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:46 |
Fantomas:I have a copy of The Director's Cut,and it's not received my customary "three spin" evaluation as 2 were quite enough for one lifetime....
Like I said,I'm still at the stage where GG are "difficult" to me.Given 5 years (to listen,not confinement) I might just grow into the more esoteric bands.....
Edited by Tony R
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 17:57 |
Tony R wrote:
Fantomas:I have a copy of The Director's Cut,and it's not received my customary "three spin" evaluation as 2 were quite enough for one lifetime....
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That album took more than 10 spins for me to reach the "love it!" status. It's their most difficult album (Dave Lombardo said that this one was the hardest one to play), and if you listen closely, you'll notice lots of little gimmicks happening ... if you can bear the noise, that is.
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Tony R
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:01 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Tony R wrote:
Fantomas:I have a copy of The Director's Cut,and it's not received my customary "three spin" evaluation as 2 were quite enough for one lifetime....
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That album took more than 10 spins for me to reach the "love it!" status. It's their most difficult album (Dave Lombardo said that this one was the hardest one to play), and if you listen closely, you'll notice lots of little gimmicks happening ... if you can bear the noise, that is.
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Mike,give me your home address and I'll send you my eardrums for repair....
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Hangedman
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Joined: November 03 2004
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:15 |
Ive heard pretty much everything listed (not sleepytime gorilla museum however) and dont find most of it difficult. Love fantomas, bungle, henry cow, all of it (I have listened to 'The Final Cut' all the way through once, and wont do so again untill I get the surrond sound version... and surrond sound... its a toughy ). But the most unlistenable album ever made is not progressive. Its Tom Waits' "Franks Wild Years", easily a 5/5 by the way, the end of the trilogy and deals with broken dreams lost love insanity and suicide. The emotional power is unbelieveable, and the arrangements are brilliant. I honestly go from being sick to my stomach to nearly crying while listening to the album, terrible experiance, and quite possibly the most artistic peice of music ive ever heard.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:18 |
Hangedman:
If you like Franks Wild Years, do you know The Black Rider, too? I love that album ... but the vocals can make people mad (it get's everyone out of the room quickly when I play it at work).
BTW: Does anyone know Mahogany Songspiel?
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Third Eye
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:28 |
Speaking of prog bands: "Invisible Touch" by Genesis is of course the most difficult. It's impossible to get through it!
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Cinema
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:34 |
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How about everything from Ozric Tentacles ... which I don't really like much.
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Gluonio
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Posted: July 03 2005 at 18:52 |
Soft Machine was a quite difficult one for me.But I like them now! 
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...But my dreams are for dreaming and best left that way-and my zero to your power of ten equals nothing at all...
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rcdupre
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 14:43 |
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Captian Beefheart- Trout Mask Repilca
Comus - First Utterance
all Amon Duul
Zappa - Uncle Meat
Harvester
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The Owl
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:04 |
Present/Univers Zero: BLOODY BRILLIANT but very hard to digest in large doses for me.
Henry Cow: It's Dagmar's voice that keeps me from enjoying them as much as I'd like to.
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People are puzzled why I don't dig the Stones, well, I listened to the Stones, I tried, and I tried, and I tried, and--I Can't Get No Satisfaction!
www.myspace.com/theowlsmusic
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Progzilla
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:11 |
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I would have to say Spastic Ink - Inc compatible:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_C D.asp?cd_id=5984
There's so much happening, and so fast! Delightful, a must for metal proggers.
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Currently listening to:
- Andromeda
- Pagan's Mind
- Kamelot
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Tony R
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:15 |
I'm gradually compiling a CD called "Certif1ed Unlistenable"
It is VERY challenging.........
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Megamoss
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:15 |
"Most anything with Mike Patton. Particularly Mr. Bungle. Even Fantomas is even easier to listen to than Mr. Bungle. crazy. just nuts"
I disagree. I can always find method in the madness with Mr Bungle. Disco Volante is a bit rough for first time listeners but it shines in the end.
I'll have to put a vote in for Trout Mask Replica. Breathtaking Nonsense mixed with purposeful musical incompetance.
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Functionless Art Is Merely Tolerated Vandalism
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:21 |
Arsillus wrote:
Pretty much all Magma.
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It is difficult to the listen to Magma. I love the music that they make, it's just the vocals really put me off.
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:25 |
The Owl wrote:
Present/Univers Zero: BLOODY BRILLIANT but very hard to digest in large doses for me.
Henry Cow: It's Dagmar's voice that keeps me from enjoying them as much as I'd like to.
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I love the voice of Dagmar Krause, especially on some of the records of
the Art Bears. Just listen to how wonderfully she sings the Brecht poem
"On Sucide" on "Hopes and Fears" by the Art Bears (an album that should
be rated much higher than it actually is).
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 A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Baazetu
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:27 |
Thing Fish and Playground Psychotics by Frank Zappa
Invisible Connections and Beauborg by Vangelis
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I am the cold trembling of your hands, your wet dreams and your broken reality...
I soak your temper warm, I am the incubus...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 06 2005 at 16:29 |
Henry Cow - Western Culture
Where it comes to Henry Cow, I will keep trying. There's something very attractive in the music so that's why I don't give up
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