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Negoba
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 24 2008
Location: Big Muddy
Status: Offline
Points: 5208
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Posted: June 06 2009 at 10:16 |
Captain Capricorn wrote:
Negoba wrote:
The brain does not produce LSD |
I didn't say it did. What I said was that DMT is endogenously produced by the pineal gland. DMT makes LSD look like breath mints.
http://www.lightparty.com/Health/SpiritMolecule.html
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Having no direct experience of either, I'll take your word for it. Be careful, some of these more complex chemicals end up being way more harmful than initially thought (ecstasy being a prime example - use burning out serotonergic synapses leaving the subjects with almost untreatable depression).
Interesting but dangerous territory.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
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Posted: June 06 2009 at 10:28 |
Negoba wrote:
Captain Capricorn wrote:
Negoba wrote:
The brain does not produce LSD |
I didn't say it did. What I said was that DMT is endogenously produced by the pineal gland. DMT makes LSD look like breath mints.
http://www.lightparty.com/Health/SpiritMolecule.html
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Having no direct experience of either, I'll take your word for it. Be careful, some of these more complex chemicals end up being way more harmful than initially thought (ecstasy being a prime example - use burning out serotonergic synapses leaving the subjects with almost untreatable depression).
Interesting but dangerous territory.
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You have to wonder if humans and other animals aren't predisposed to intoxicating or stimulating themselves. I seem to remember reading that coffee was discovered by people seeing goats eating the stuff and becoming frisky. Ants in the fridge, hell. Be very worried about the frisky goats...
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 06 2009 at 10:33
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Captain Capricorn
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 21 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 1085
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Posted: June 06 2009 at 10:41 |
Negoba wrote:
Be careful, some of these more complex chemicals end up being way more harmful than initially thought (ecstasy being a prime example - use burning out serotonergic synapses leaving the subjects with almost untreatable depression). |
Indeed ...MDMA is no toy. Dimethyltryptamine OTOH occures naturally in the human body & is treated by the brain as being necessary for healthy function, the same way that seratonin & other tryptamines are treated. I enthusiastically recommend DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman, MD for further information concerning the states of consciousness conducive to endogenous DMT production, e.g. birth, R.E.M. sleep, meditation, prolongued prayer, schizophrenia, mantra, extreme stress, death, etc, as well as the effects (as benign as they are) DMT exerts upon the brain. Did you read the article, the link to which I included in my previous post?
Slartibartfast wrote:
You have to wonder if humans and other animals
aren't predisposed to intoxicating or stimulating themselves. I seem
to remember reading that coffee was discovered by people seeing goats
eating the stuff and becoming frisky. |
About 5 years ago I read a book called Animals & Psychedelics
by Giorgio Samorini. He documented extensively the use of psychoactive
compounds among a whole myriad of wild & domesticated animals &
insects. It is his proposal (& I wholly agree with him) that the
will to intoxication is as basic & widespread as the will to
procreate.
Edited by Captain Capricorn - June 06 2009 at 10:50
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Easy Money
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: August 11 2007
Location: Memphis
Status: Offline
Points: 10652
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Posted: June 06 2009 at 10:58 |
Have you ever seen birds getting crazy with the over-ripe fruit, they'll fly right into windows etc.
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Dominic
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 02 2008
Location: Liberation Land
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Points: 651
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Posted: June 06 2009 at 18:12 |
As a non drug user, it certainly can get annoying being accused of most likely using them all based on the stereotypes that go along with being a fan of so called "psychedelic" music.
I believe some people just have an inclination towards experiencing and creating certain kinds of music just as they do towards enjoying certain flavors of intoxication; it seems to me that they have no direct influence on each other.
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himtroy
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 20 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 1601
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Posted: June 06 2009 at 22:22 |
Acid
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