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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2006 at 08:20

Glad to see the arguement still rages on . I visited here some time ago after I think we all invaded each others sites .....I use the Punk77 site forum on a regular basis , the majority of people there are really quite sensible and have a wide and varied taste  , unlike maybe what we did way back in 77 or 78 or whatever you choose ....we punks have grown up a bit ( well , most of us have ) .

I think ALL music should be for entertainment , there is good and bad prog , good and bad punk . A lot of punk isn't about hate - for that youi may have to look at the era 79-84 when the majority of bands were thrash/hardcore punk ( Discharge , GBH types ) ....but , punk wasn't that anti prog either by then ....that was just a reaction of the 77 types , maybe you all reacted as well to what went before prog , it was someone elses thing ....its only natural really and I think in the majority of cases we don't really mean it , its just saying what you are expected to say.

I do wonder what prog is ....is there a limit to how far a band can progress , if they revert to their original style after years of change , is this still progression ? Punk bands  generally did progress , some started out very raw and either disappeared ( Adverts) or they moved on drastically ( Clash/Stranglers/Damned ) , their styles evolved and many did become very good musicians .

At the end of the day though its all about what you enjoy ... I do notice one difference between our sites , whereas your prog site mainly talks about the bands , we tend to discuss more on the anything goes topics - away from the music ( football/TV /Film etc )  ....does it mean we have more varied lives ? Don't know . Might just mean we have talked our music to death.

We do get some really young idiots on our site though , the conversation ( or lack of by them ) has to be seen to be believed.

Happy new year everyone .

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2006 at 10:05
Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

Originally posted by el_Sethro el_Sethro wrote:

It seems to me that though The Mars Volta's songs may contain certain punky bits and certain proggy bits, there aren't really any parts that are both at the same time.

i think they are im not going to go listen to some mars volta to give u an example but i know there is

The only thing punk about TMV is the energy and sometimes the vocals (which is not the same as lyrics.)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2006 at 01:26

If there were a PUNK ARCHIVES it probably would look something like this:

PUNK

The Ramones

The Clash

PROTO PUNK

MC5

The Stooges

Patti Smith

AVANT PUNK

Sonic Youth

Television

PUNK RELATED

Blondie

Talking Heads

need I say more?

oh yeah

MARKETING PLOY

Sex Pistols

 

"The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2006 at 02:10

 

    I consider it as a low level music style =(


1 - The Dark Side of the Moon - PINK FLOYD

2 - Crime of the Century - Supertramp

3- Close to the Edge - YES
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2006 at 03:29

I'd rather listen to some hip hop than most punk bands.No question that Public Enemy or Cypress Hill are better than the Sex Pistols or Green Day.

OK , The Stranglers  are not awful and maybe there are bands who are tolerable.

Punk is the best genre for guys who have no musical(and any other)talent  and they want to become a famous rock star. And who are not good looking either

 

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