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is there a playlist I missed? 
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Here's the playlist. I was hesitating since I couldn't find Nickie's piece in the thread. The video that I have lasts only one minute.
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An audio of "Agent Starling" by Grice is available on their bandcamp site (duration 7:58). Is this it, Nickie?



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my three choices
Windchase - Lamb’s Fry
Sohrab- Zarrin
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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:


Here's the playlist. I was hesitating since I couldn't find Nickie's piece in the thread. The video that I have lasts only one minute.
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An audio of "Agent Starling" by Grice is available on their bandcamp site (duration 7:58). Is this it, Nickie?

  Thank you so much, Mila, for the playlist!  Smile  As far as "Agent Starling, yes, Grice doesn't have the full-length piece up on YT, so I used the bandcamp link.  We've done that before, and even dropbox links or soundcloud on occasion.




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Thanks for the playlist! This always is a big help for these polls.
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I'm glad that I posted the correct link. It got burried somewhere in the comments. Thumbs Up


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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

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I'm glad that I posted the correct link. It got burried somewhere in the comments. Thumbs Up
  

Thank you Mila!  Also please check your messages.  Smile

Hopefully it made it through this time.  Maybe that Mercury retrograde thing IS a thing.  


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Again, truly difficult choices here.  Many thanks to Nick for the poll, Mila for the playlist and as always, our fearless leader of these polls, Lorenzo.

1.   Cristi:  I am a sucker for old psych.  Extra points for pulling a PF track I’d never heard before.  Pink Floyd “Cirrus Minor”  Even though I know most of Pink Floyd’s music, this one I am not familiar with, perhaps because of how it was released.  I love this era of Floyd.  The piece begins with birdsong, then PF-style eerie vocals and sustained notes on organ.  Guitar is kind of to the back, and mostly to bolster the vocal.  The birds chirp up from time to time, as the organ plays solo.  Flourishy washy sounds enter the mix.  Little bits of guitar or? crop up, sounds almost like effected keys after a moment, however.  Ends in birdsong.  Thank you. 

2.  Nick:  I am also a sucker for dynamics and complexity and violins.  Cronofonia “Dawn (reprise)”  Shakuhachi type flute, then moves into more orchestral territory.  I have a feeling I’m going to like this.  Yep, electric guitar softly comes in, then drums and the rest of the band.  Flute swirls in and around as the band steadily plays along.  Surprised by a male vocalist, then a violin (and perhaps more strings).  Plenty of dynamics in the piece, as it falls back to minimal, rises again in a crescendo, then moves, as you’d stated, into pure birdsong for over a full minute. Lovely. ALSO  IF HE’D CHOSEN:  Henika Extras:  “Birdie Sings The Blues”  Birds start, then plucked double bass.  Here she is more sultry, much more of a blues/jazz kind of vocal.  Slide guitar comes in, making it more Delta/folky.  This one I do prefer, to the first one of hers. 

3.  Lorenzo: And, I am also a sucker for these rustic village kinds of pieces.  F. De André “Creuza de ma”  (Out of Competition)  Begins with bagpipes, perhaps Genoese ones?  (a great instrument for the outdoors!).  Band enters, male vocalist, I like the earthiness of this piece.  The chorus is very rich and lush.  Lovely acoustic stringed instrument played during the bridge.  I enjoyed this group way back in the polls, as well as the first selection, here, but this is different than the piece presented then.  Village street sounds/music/singing at end. Lovely.  ALSO IF HE’D CHOSEN:  Gang “Johnny Lo Zingaro” 

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I prophesy disaster:  Windchase “Lamb’s Fry” 

Christian:  Sohrab “Zarrin” 

dr wu23:  XTC “Summer’s Cauldron”  
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I won't vote for Pink Floyd and Hidden Orchestra because I knew these already, both great suggestions though.
XTC is hit and miss for me, I'm not enthused by this particular one. I love experimental music but the Luc Ferrari one has not enough "music" as far as I'm concerned; the field recordings are rather presented as they are than "worked with" to create a new sound world. Cronofonia is good to listen to, maybe a bit too conventional for me from a melodic/harmonic point of view.

The remaining four are all fine and would all deserve a vote, damn, these polls always end in dilemma. I'm not in the mood for symphonic prog today and will therefore vote against Windchase, which leaves me with Fabrizio de Andre, Grice, and Bang On A Can, the latter two being full of fun surprises, and De Andre for a very tasteful composition.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

The remaining four are all fine and would all deserve a vote, damn, these polls always end in dilemma. I'm not in the mood for symphonic prog today and will therefore vote against Windchase, which leaves me with Fabrizio de Andre, Grice, and Bang On A Can, the latter two being full of fun surprises, and De Andre for a very tasteful composition.

Glad you enjoyed Grice, I love that whole release, one of my favourites of last year.
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-Windchase-'Lambs Fry'....I have that lp....like it almost as much as Sebastian Hardie.
-Pink Floyd-'Cirrus Minor'.... a minor classic imho...the early Floyd is all intriguing .
-Hidden Orchestra-'Wandering'....unknown to me...unique and weirdly engaging.

-Cronofonia-'Dawn'.....also unknown to me....not sure why but reminds me of Phideaux at times....nice.
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This was a really hard to choose only three from.

Some I could remove from contention because of familiarity (eg Grice, Pink Floyd) who almost certainly would have received my vote otherwise.

In the end I went for Luc Ferrari, not so much because it stood out more from the others, but because it seems to not have attracted so many votes and that’s a pity, because it’s quite a beautiful piece.

Despite knowing Bang on a Can, I didn’t know this piece, and I enjoyed it, so I gave it a vote. Well, actually, that’s not entirely true. I allocated it a number on a die, and I rolled it. The other number rolled was allocated to Windrush. Yes, that’s really how I chose who to vote for - because I really did enjoy everything on offer more or less equally.

Thanks for putting up such interesting nominations.

For those who enjoyed Cronofonía, it’s a 2cd album that was born in Mexico, but has a quite international flavour. If you did like the track I shared, chances are you might like the album. And you’ll probably know some of the supporting cast of musicians.

Joaquín “Negro” Ortíz – Vocals, Guitars
Pablo Patricio Ortíz – Guitars, Bass

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Dave Bainbridge – Keyboards, Guitars
Frank Van Essen – Drums, Strings
Sally Minnear – Vocals
Jinian Wilde – Vocals
Sam Blue – Vocals
Gabriel Agudo – Vocals
Pablo Romaro – Guitar
David Cross – Violin
“Snake” Davis – Saxophone, Tin Whistle
Jeroen Goossens – Flutes, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon, Recorders
Peter Weekers – Shakuhachi
Fernando Marín – Viola Da Gamba
Jonas Pap – Violoncello
Ilya Dynov – Vibraphone, Marimba
Montse Cruz – Marimba
Andrés Hernandez – Timpani, Gong, Tubular Bells
Efrén Capiz Castañeda – Drums
Emily Owen – Vocals
Craig McLeish – Vocals
Xanax Ortíz – Vocals
Dora Juarez Kiczkovsky – Vocals
Dave Brons – Vocals
Katrine Amsler – Soundscapes
Heriberto Cruz – Piano
Javier Pérez – Tuba
Cesar Pola – Trombone
Cuauhtemoc Silva – Trombone
Jenny Cárdenas – French Horn
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Thank you, Nick.  It was a wonderful poll and now, of course, I've been hearing more that would have qualified that I was unfamiliar with before (and of course enjoyed listening to everyone's entries).  

Maybe I need to dig up a die, lol.  Smile

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

This was a really hard to choose only three from.

Some I could remove from contention because of familiarity (eg Grice, Pink Floyd) who almost certainly would have received my vote otherwise.

In the end I went for Luc Ferrari, not so much because it stood out more from the others, but because it seems to not have attracted so many votes and that’s a pity, because it’s quite a beautiful piece.

Despite knowing Bang on a Can, I didn’t know this piece, and I enjoyed it, so I gave it a vote. Well, actually, that’s not entirely true. I allocated it a number on a die, and I rolled it. The other number rolled was allocated to Windrush. Yes, that’s really how I chose who to vote for - because I really did enjoy everything on offer more or less equally.

Thanks for putting up such interesting nominations.

For those who enjoyed Cronofonía, it’s a 2cd album that was born in Mexico, but has a quite international flavour. If you did like the track I shared, chances are you might like the album. And you’ll probably know some of the supporting cast of musicians.

Joaquín “Negro” Ortíz – Vocals, Guitars
Pablo Patricio Ortíz – Guitars, Bass

with:

Dave Bainbridge – Keyboards, Guitars
Frank Van Essen – Drums, Strings
Sally Minnear – Vocals
Jinian Wilde – Vocals
Sam Blue – Vocals
Gabriel Agudo – Vocals
Pablo Romaro – Guitar
David Cross – Violin
“Snake” Davis – Saxophone, Tin Whistle
Jeroen Goossens – Flutes, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon, Recorders
Peter Weekers – Shakuhachi
Fernando Marín – Viola Da Gamba
Jonas Pap – Violoncello
Ilya Dynov – Vibraphone, Marimba
Montse Cruz – Marimba
Andrés Hernandez – Timpani, Gong, Tubular Bells
Efrén Capiz Castañeda – Drums
Emily Owen – Vocals
Craig McLeish – Vocals
Xanax Ortíz – Vocals
Dora Juarez Kiczkovsky – Vocals
Dave Brons – Vocals
Katrine Amsler – Soundscapes
Heriberto Cruz – Piano
Javier Pérez – Tuba
Cesar Pola – Trombone
Cuauhtemoc Silva – Trombone
Jenny Cárdenas – French Horn
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In view of the quite complex subject of this poll, I needed some time to find appropriate evaluation criteria. The possibilities to deal with ‘field recordings’ in music are almost endless. However, it seemed important to me that the use of field recordings was a key component in the respective composition. Therefore, I listened closely to each individual composition several times, from start to finish, and this is where my votes will go to:

Luc Ferrari: Presque rien avec les filles

Luc Ferrari was a pioneer in electronic music and ‘musique concrète’. The latter is a type of music composition where recorded sounds are used as raw material. Compositions in this idiom are not restricted to common musical rules of melody, harmony, rhythm, metre, etc. which is not easy to compare with most pieces in the mix. Being imo the piece closest to the subject of this poll, I see Ferrari with his “Presque rien avec les filles” running through the finish gate quite easily.

Grice: Agent Starling (high roller glitch)

This is a well-crafted composition where birdsong and music are combined to create a beautiful soundscape. Electronica, acoustic instruments, strings, and field recordings are all finely and seamlessly interwoven. In terms of music genre, it is a blend of electronica, symphonic rock and jazz, I would say. As a jazz fan I was especially captured by the sound of the trumpet that inevitably reminded me of Miles Davis’ cool jazz period. The fact that this is a relatively recent recording, adds to the attractiveness of this contribution for me.

XTC: Summer's Cauldron

A pleasant and well-crafted art-rock piece, where field recordings are well integrated into the music. This is actually something that I would want to listen to every now and then. I had a quick listen to their Skylarking album which offers consistent quality.

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Grand Jury Prize: Bang on a Can All-Stars - Casino Trem

Avant-garde/experimental and contemporary music always arouse my interest. Thus I’m all the more pleased to learn that this is a musical project, an open creative group that is always on the move, heading to new shores. - For me it was between Luc Ferrari and the Bang on a Can crew. I decided to give way to Luc Ferrari because I think that a musique concrète piece should not be missing in this edition. You may remember that one of my suggestions was a piece by Stockhausen. I always try to be as diverse as possible in my voting.

Music Legend Award: Pink Floyd

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Thank you all for your great contribuions and for your interesting comments! A big thank you goes out to Nick for organising this inspirational poll. Smile

Btw. I had a quick look at the scoreboard and I'm not quite sure whether everyone who commented on their favourites did vote there as well?




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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Grice: Agent Starling (high roller glitch)

This is a well-crafted composition where birdsong and music are combined to create a beautiful soundscape. Electronica, acoustic instruments, strings, and field recordings are all finely and seamlessly interwoven. In terms of music genre, it is a blend of electronica, symphonic rock and jazz, I would say. As a jazz fan I was especially captured by the sound of the trumpet that inevitably reminded me of Miles Davis’ cool jazz period. The fact that this is a relatively recent recording, adds to the attractiveness of this contribution for me. 

So happy to have expanded the audience for Grice so much with this poll.  Smile  I always enjoy the in-depth commentary you bring, as well!
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@Nickie - I whish I could comment at least on all nominated songs, but I can't make it due to lack of time. In fact, things would be a lot easier for me if it was in my own language.
I guess, you are aware of the review about Grice's One Thousand Birds album on PA? I haven't listened to the entire album yet, but I think that we should talk to the reviewer! Tongue



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@Nickie - I whish I could comment at least on all nominated songs, but I can't make it due to lack of time. In fact, things would be a lot easier for me if it was in my own language.
I guess, you are aware of the review about Grice's One Thousand Birds album on PA? I haven't listened to the entire album yet, but I think that we should talk to the reviewer! Tongue

  I'll have to go and look. Depends on who is doing reviews, I know a few who I generally agree with and few who I don't.  
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