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Topic: Interactive Poll - Field Recordings
Posted By: nick_h_nz
Subject: Interactive Poll - Field Recordings
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 02:24
Happy New Year everyone!

The poll this time is dedicated to the use of field recordings in music. A field recording is anything recorded outside the studio for use in a composition. The roar of an aeroplane passing overhead, the crackle of bacon sizzling in a pan, a crash of thunder, or the crashing of waves. The possibilities are endless, and every one of the aforementioned have featured prominently in tracks I enjoy, in a way that is effective and affective, and truly augments the recording, rather than is simply added in an ornamental fashion.

Sometimes the field recordings are entirely integral to a track, and other times they are more incidental - but they are almost always overt and obvious.

The reason this topic came to me for the poll is almost entirely down to one album that I truly loved from last year, in which field recordings of New Zealand birdsong provide the majority of instrumentation. There’s a good chance that I will put forward a track from that album, but honestly, when I sat down to think about it, there are so many songs where the field recordings are a favourite part of the composition, so there is a lot to choose from. And while it may initially seem that the same might not be true within your own collection, I think you would be surprised it you gave it some thought. I doubt there are many people with any sort of music collection (regardless of genre) who don’t have several albums that contain field recordings.

Post as many examples as you like, but only one can be your nomination for the poll. I’m not unduly concerned whether or not your examples are included in PA - but try to avoid compositions that are well-known.

Have fun!



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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 03:23
Windchase - Lamb's Fry
 
 



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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 03:48
voted for clang :)

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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 04:33
As some may guess, I love love love this topic but have a bit of an internal selection to do before coming up with suggestions. The current options in the poll above seem very dangerous and encouraging for premature voting though - I absolutely can see them making a worthwhile fun poll in their own right. Cool


Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 05:01
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

As some may guess, I love love love this topic but have a bit of an internal selection to do before coming up with suggestions. The current options in the poll above seem very dangerous and encouraging for premature voting though - I absolutely can see them making a worthwhile fun poll in their own right. Cool

Oh yes, I was fully aware of the danger in naming the options as I have - and, indeed, one of the options has already received a vote! But as the interactive poll has always been more about the sharing and discovering than the voting, I’m not greatly worried. I can change them to something more boring if enough people are worried about premature/unrelated votes.



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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 05:42
Well the first three that immediately come to mind are...
Yes - Close to the Edge
Kraftwerk - Autobahn
Stevie Wonder - Living in the City

But they're all too well known.
I'll have to do a little research on this one.


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 05:59
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:


I'll have to do a little research on this one.

my thought exactly. 


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 12:11
Here I certainly will be bringing some oddities and some things of interest, outside of the poll, for those interested.  Wonderful subject, Nick!

First, I will have to resort to Bandcamp, for the full recording.  GRICE with "Agent Starling (High Roller Glitch)", from their one thousand birds symphony.  They are in PA, but pretty obscure.  The full recording features field recordings of birdsong in Devon, interlaced with human music.  https://grice.bandcamp.com/track/agent-starling-high-roller-glitch

Second, is a really funny little thing I heard on NPR (National Public Radio, in the US) one day, and I've never forgotten it.  "Froggy Goes A'Courting," which is an incidental mixture of human music and turkey response.  There is a bit of a speaking intro at the beginning.  So another kind of link outside of the usual:   https://www.npr.org/2012/11/25/165854629/man-sings-to-turkeys-turkeys-gobble-back" rel="nofollow - https://www.npr.org/2012/11/25/165854629/man-sings-to-turkeys-turkeys-gobble-back

Thirdly, we find the Renaissance Faire Performer in all of his wild natural habitat.  This is a recording of dear departed friend, Owain Phyfe, who I've presented before, in a different way (a studio recording), with a different tune.  All live, here he performs with The New World Renaissance Band.  You can hear sounds of Faire in the background.  

Outside of the poll and of potential interest to folks, and brought here because this is a very interesting piece of music history, brought by Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones.  A rare record, I do have a copy of it.  "The Pipes of Pan at Joujouka," Your Eyes Are Like A Cup Of Tea, which is the second side of the record.  It is very long, so not necessary listening. 







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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 12:38
Shoot. I was super sleepy when I cast my vote and I didn't even realize this was an interactive poll! xD

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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 14:27

Karlheinz Stockhausen: Kontakte.

He is known for his groundbreaking work in electronic music and is a prominent representative of 'musique concrète', a type of music composition that utilizes recorded sounds as raw material.

Thylacine: Versailles

He is a French musician and composer of electronic music. This piece is inspired by the sounds of the Palace of Versailles. 

Ty ft. Mpho: Brixton Baby

Ty was a renowned British rapper and producer, here collaborating with South African-born British singer-songwriter Mpho. This piece is inspired by the sights and sounds of Brixton, a district in the south of London. It is a multiethnic community, with a large percentage of its population of Afro-Caribbean descent.



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 15:49
Sohrab is an Iranian musician living in Berlin... at least he was, apparently he had trouble with his visa, and had trouble in his home country Iran, too. Not sure what he is up to now, but there's some 2018 music of him around, even though I couldn't find any updated information about him.

2010's A Hidden Place is one of my all time top albums, the perfect mix of meditation and exciting sounds (of course you know I'm an experimental electronic music fan); I love this style and this is one of the best, if not the best. Here's Zarrin.



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 16:07
This is probably out of competition as it won't beat Sohrab and also it's on PA, but I wanted to point you to Fred Frith's phantastic film Step Across the Border that uses a lot of field recordings in dialogue with the music (and the visuals). The following is not exactly a representation of what goes on, rather just a facet - not that much is on youtube. Anyway, enjoy, and watch that film if you haven't yet (and even if you have).



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 16:23
...and then another one out of competition, shamelessly promoting my own music here:
Funex - Distant (done during Covid times sending recordings back and forth)
https://soundcloud.com/lewian/distant" rel="nofollow - https://soundcloud.com/lewian/distant


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 16:29
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

This is probably out of competition as it won't beat Sohrab and also it's on PA, but I wanted to point you to Fred Frith's phantastic film Step Across the Border that uses a lot of field recordings in dialogue with the music (and the visuals). The following is not exactly a representation of what goes on, rather just a facet - not that much is on youtube. Anyway, enjoy, and watch that film if you haven't yet (and even if you have).
Video Removed for Space

I did think of using another related piece of music, Henry Kaiser (who collaborated with Fred Frith) and David Lindley's "A World Out Of Time," music of Madagascar. Having a little trouble ensuring that it would fit the bill, however.  Great stuff, though!


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 04 2022 at 16:43
I really prefer Hangle-gora-whimwhom,  but I guess I'll take "Creak" from the poll because it's a homophone for "Creek".

David Bagsby, The Aviary  from 1991
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5641" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5641

David Bagsby The Aviary album cover




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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 05 2022 at 11:57
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I really prefer Hangle-gora-whimwhom,  but I guess I'll take "Creak" from the poll because it's a homophone for "Creek".

David Bagsby, The Aviary  from 1991
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5641" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5641

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Am having trouble finding any audio anywhere for this.  Can you provide one?


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 05 2022 at 16:22
^ He used to have samples on his site but they're mostly gone or don't seem to work.

https://resurrect.myspace.com/davidbagsby/music/album/the-aviary-10054345" rel="nofollow - https://resurrect.myspace.com/davidbagsby/music/album/the-aviary-10054345

Some of his CDs may still be around but he produced them himself, so they're scarce.   He was kind enough to send me quite a few for review back when I added his albums.





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 05 2022 at 17:24
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ He used to have samples on his site but they're mostly gone or don't seem to work.

https://resurrect.myspace.com/davidbagsby/music/album/the-aviary-10054345" rel="nofollow - https://resurrect.myspace.com/davidbagsby/music/album/the-aviary-10054345

Some of his CDs may still be around but he produced them himself, so they're scarce.   He was kind enough to send me quite a few for review back when I added his albums.

Sorry, that link didn't work for me.  I could only see one song on it, and not the one you'd mentioned, when I went to his albums link that album didn't seem to have that song.  Cry


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 05 2022 at 17:56
Yeah those "myspace" pages are very buggy and he hasn't updated his site.   If it's important, PM me a mailing address and I'll see if I can get you a copy.




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 05 2022 at 20:43
The only music I could think of that I had was Field Recordings and More Field Recordings by Bang On A Can All-Stars. For these Recordings, the Bang On A Can organization asked/commissioned various composers to either find old recordings or make new recordings to compose new music around and form a musical dialogue. Hard part was choosing my favorites to share. Composers are listed with the titles of the compositions. All performed by the All-Stars.

Tyondai Braxton - Casino Trem


Paula Matthusen - The Ontology of an Echo


Renė Lussier - Nocturnal


Christian Marclay - Fade to Slide


Edit to add: The full albums are on Bandcamp.

https://bangonacan.bandcamp.com/album/field-recordings" rel="nofollow - https://bangonacan.bandcamp.com/album/field-recordings

https://bangonacan.bandcamp.com/album/more-field-recordings" rel="nofollow - https://bangonacan.bandcamp.com/album/more-field-recordings










Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 11:54
First thoughts up through George's entries on this page: 

I prophesy disaster:  Windchase “Lamb’s Fry”  Pretty atmospheric (guess that will be a word used a lot in this poll) piece.  Begins with electric piano and lamb baas, full band comes in after a few with guitars, bass, drums and synth.  A middle-eastern vibe going, with a jazzy edge, I quite like this right from the get-go, and also as it continued.  Quite the mover of a piece, love the long guitar solo, too.  Ends nicely with some birdsong intertwined with the music, then a drumroll.  Off to a grand start!

 Mila:  Karlheinz Stockhausen “Kontakte”  Lots of whings, blings, and clonks here.  A conglomerate of different sounds, for me, I am missing a sense of cohesion, but that could be my ignorance of electronica.  This one is not my cup of tea, I sense a coldness in it that just doesn’t appeal to me.  Thylacine “Versailles”  This one I prefer much from the start.  It is also very electronic, obviously, but the sound of the organ at the beginning added more of a human touch that I crave in music.  I like that it has a more discernable rhythm as well, and a feeling of completion, reprising the beginning at the end. TY ft. Mpho “Brixton Baby”  Now THIS hits more notes that appeal to me.  The city sounds, the street performers.  There are synths added and the vocals are very soulful, until the rap part anyway. The rap is of interest also, as commentary of the passersby and culture.   Snippets of steel drums (?) then intersperse with city sounds and conversations and finally back to music overlying everything.  As you probably can tell, this is my favourite of yours here.  

Christian:  Sohrab “Zarrin”  Slow builder here, not sure what the opening sounds are, but a nice washy thing enters and swells.  There are subtle little wriggles show up under the repeating washy part.  Just lovely and contemplative, soothing yet kept my interest up.  Fred Frith “Same Old Me”  Funny start with sneezing!  Love the messing around on the stringed thing and the Farfisa type organ.  Sarcastic spoken vocal, there is certainly a sense of anxiety and hopelessness here.  Some ironically jolly little horns peep in, probably done on synth.  Fun!  Lewian “Distant by Funex”  Sounds almost like a typewriter type keyboard at the start, a repeating chord on piano and little tinkly sounds (teaspoons in cups?).  Little whirlies join in and some more kind of stirring, swishing sounds.  Sometimes serene, sometimes a little disturbing, with some discordant sounds peppered into the mix.  Intriguing!  And congrats on doing your own music.  I actually enjoyed all of yours, as I often do.  You’ve opened my ears to a lot in this genre over the polls. 

George:  Tyondai Braxton “Casine Trem”  Fun romp with whomps and whiddleys (clarinets?).  Sounds like most is on synths, as far as keyboards, although there are some strings that sound like violin and or cello.  Little percussive stick things going on.  Makes me think of cartoons, not that it’s laughable, but deliberately done with some humour.  It also get dramatic in parts, with dissonance.  Paula Matthusen “The Ontology of an Echo”  Drips and odd bowed sounds, plinks and plonks and whizzies.  This one becomes more contemplative as it moves along, ending with bowed cello.  Lovely.   Renė Lussier “Nocturnal”  Some quiet moments at first, then some bangs and wongly brass and electric guitar, mostly discordant.  Ominous.  A jazzy kind of section commences, with drums and piano and clarinet (?).  Deep breaths and snoring sounds, kinda (on cello). More slippy slideys.  Christian Marclay “Fade to Slide”  Industrial start this off, and some water and clicky-clackies, strings again (which are really great for staccato sounds, creating tension).  Very discordant and jumpy.  Oooh, a harp!  Bagpipes and accordions being tortured!  Probably obvious that my favourite here is “The Ontology of an Echo.” 




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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 16:21
An obvious choice perhaps but a favorite lp and  band ,an exquisite song.......




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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 06 2022 at 22:33
Thanks Nickie. Your comments and descriptions are well appreciated.
The Bang On A Can All-Stars is typically a six-person lineup on percussion, keyboards/piano, cello, bass, clarinets, and guitar. For Casino Trem, I think some of the synthesizer sounds comes from the field recordings of casino slot machines. My familiarity of these sounds drew me into that track. I should have included a live performance by the group, so here's one for Casino Trem.



A couple of additional notes: the composer Tyondai Braxton is a former member of the math rock band Battles, so there is that prog connection.

And Renė Lussier is a jazz guitarist and was part of the Fred Frith Guitar Quartet.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 03:42
Here's a second one "within competition" - I wanted to find something that is neither listed on PA nor of an artist I had previously used (quite a number of earlier suggestions and nominations of mine actually include field recordings), and also not something that is really dominated by field recordings, but something  of a song with a melody and all that, and with some occasional recordings thrown in.

What I found is this piece by the Tear Garden, who I actually once proposed for inclusion here, but they were rejected. The Tear Garden is a side project of Edward Ka-Spel of the Legendary Pink Dots. This one is one of the best, for me, out of the huge catalogue of things he has his hands in.

The Tear Garden - Turn me on, dead man



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 03:49
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:


Christian:  Sohrab “Zarrin”  Slow builder here, not sure what the opening sounds are, but a nice washy thing enters and swells.  There are subtle little wriggles show up under the repeating washy part.  Just lovely and contemplative, soothing yet kept my interest up.  Fred Frith “Same Old Me”  Funny start with sneezing!  Love the messing around on the stringed thing and the Farfisa type organ.  Sarcastic spoken vocal, there is certainly a sense of anxiety and hopelessness here.  Some ironically jolly little horns peep in, probably done on synth.  Fun!  Lewian “Distant by Funex”  Sounds almost like a typewriter type keyboard at the start, a repeating chord on piano and little tinkly sounds (teaspoons in cups?).  Little whirlies join in and some more kind of stirring, swishing sounds.  Sometimes serene, sometimes a little disturbing, with some discordant sounds peppered into the mix.  Intriguing!  And congrats on doing your own music.  I actually enjoyed all of yours, as I often do.  You’ve opened my ears to a lot in this genre over the polls.


That's so nice, thanks! Indeed there are teaspoons in cups - I contributed field recordings (in fact I usually have a recorder with me, so I record stuff regularly that I then often use in music) and mixing to this (and the piano), but my two partners in Funex do the noises themselves, partly with stuff in their kitchen, manipulated instruments etc.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 04:01
OK last thing for this poll (although I could go on for much longer) - out of competition one by the grandmaster himself (I  mean my avatar man of course). Drums by another icon, Jaki LIebezeit. Holger Czukay - Traeum mal wieder



Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 08:23
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

I prophesy disaster:  Windchase “Lamb’s Fry”  Pretty atmospheric (guess that will be a word used a lot in this poll) piece.  Begins with electric piano and lamb baas, full band comes in after a few with guitars, bass, drums and synth.  A middle-eastern vibe going, with a jazzy edge, I quite like this right from the get-go, and also as it continued.  Quite the mover of a piece, love the long guitar solo, too.  Ends nicely with some birdsong intertwined with the music, then a drumroll.  Off to a grand start!
 
I'm glad you enjoyed the track. Smile
 



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 07 2022 at 08:33
Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Thanks Nickie. Your comments and descriptions are well appreciated.
The Bang On A Can All-Stars is typically a six-person lineup on percussion, keyboards/piano, cello, bass, clarinets, and guitar. For Casino Trem, I think some of the synthesizer sounds comes from the field recordings of casino slot machines. My familiarity of these sounds drew me into that track. I should have included a live performance by the group, so here's one for Casino Trem.

Video Removed For Space

A couple of additional notes: the composer Tyondai Braxton is a former member of the math rock band Battles, so there is that prog connection.

And Renė Lussier is a jazz guitarist and was part of the Fred Frith Guitar Quartet.

That was a fun little romp.  And yes, the sounds were certainly like slot machines, not my favourite environment.  That being said, when it moved along from the less-obvious casino sounds, it had a lot of sense of movement in it and comedic sense as well.  


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 08 2022 at 04:54
I got nothing this round, I might sit this one out. Embarrassed


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 08 2022 at 04:55
First of all: a Happy New Year to everyone! Beer

These last two weeks I've been mainly offline, and now just dropping in because I didn't want to miss this poll. Not much time thus to look for different things, but I immediately thought of one of my favourite musique concrète composers: Luc Ferrari. His better compositions are longer pieces, but this one is not bad either, imo... It is still a bit long, so this will be my one and only submission and thus my nomination.

Luc Ferrari - Presque rien avec filles:






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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 08 2022 at 19:21
My nomination:

Alberto Fortis: Mary

(In the beginning: che Sioux song for the rain)




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Out of competition:

F. De André: Creuza de ma (sung in Genoese dialect)



Gang: Johnny lo zingaro





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 09 2022 at 10:57
Hoping to hear from Nick, as well.  Will be interested in what he brings.  Smile

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 09 2022 at 17:00
^ Nickie, You've already heard the song "Mary".

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 09 2022 at 17:39
Thank you for reminding me, Lorenzo!  

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 00:52
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hoping to hear from Nick, as well.  Will be interested in what he brings.  Smile

I have been stupidly busy, but I will do my best to sort something out. Thanks for thinking of me!



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 08:02
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Hoping to hear from Nick, as well.  Will be interested in what he brings.  Smile

I have been stupidly busy, but I will do my best to sort something out. Thanks for thinking of me!

  As long as it doesn't add unnecessary stress!  Smile

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 08:49
Here are my first takes Page Two, thus far, with one addition:

Christian:  Holger Czukay “Traum Mal Wieder”  Chanting sort of vocals, male and female and some radio sounds.  A bit eerie and ominous.  Percussive bits and some cityish sounds, more of the choral chanting. Bits of guitar enter, and become more prominent.  This one also had good build of tension throughout, with the percussion coming more to the fore and the choral chanting way to the back as it concludes, with just the percussion ending.  Once again, I enjoy all of your contributions this time.  

dr wu23:  XTC “Summer’s Cauldron”  Crickets.  Sure makes me miss summer!  I am not as familiar with XTC’s repertoire as I should be, but have always liked whatever I’ve heard and this is no exception.  Birds continue chirping here and harmonica (or accordion, or on a keyboard?).  Trees dancing drunk with nectar, lovely lyrics.  

Kees:  Luc Ferrari “Presque Rien Avec Files”  Whirrs and skirrs to start.  Storm sound and almost imperceptible tapping, or footsteps.  Metallic sounds.  All is very muffled, there are also sort of maraca sounds in there.  Birds chirping come to the fore, with some industrial type deep booms, but from a distance.  Whirrs and whomps, maybe the sound of a large piece of aluminum being moved, then some drum beats and cricket sounds, with muffled voices and a cry of some sort.  Woman voices and drums again, with loud whomps and muted marimba sounds, or someone running their fingers across a comb?  Male voice and birds.  I’m imagining this is all on some sort of back alleyway/street, with some overdubs of things, later.  Fun listen.

Lorenzo:  Alberto Fortis “Mary”  Video was unavailable for me, however, Lorenzo reminded me that I’ve heard this one.  Very beautiful, passionate song!  F. De André “Creuza de ma”  (Out of Competition)  Begins with bagpipes, perhaps Genoese ones?  (a great instrument for the outdoors!).  Band enters, male vocalist, I like the earthiness of this piece.  The chorus is very rich and lush.  Lovely acoustic stringed instrument played during the bridge.  I enjoyed this group way back in the polls, as well as the first selection, here, but this is different than the piece presented then.  Village street sounds/music/singing at end. Lovely.  Gang “Johnny Lo Zingaro”  Another very village/folk sound from the start, a solo woman singing.  Full band then, in a spare arrangement at first.  Reminds me, in spirit, of some of the Breton musicians who blended rock with folk, such as Malicorne.  Violin solo is very folkish and delightful.  The pace picks up into more of a jig/reel pace.  This would be my fave of yours, with F. De André being out of competition. 





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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 10:07
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Here are my first takes Page Two, thus far, with one addition:

Christian:  <span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:107%; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; :yellow;mso-highlight:yellow;mso-ansi-:EN-US;mso-fareast-: EN-US;mso-bidi-:AR-SA">Holger Czukay “Traum Mal Wieder”  Chanting sort of vocals, male and female and
some radio sounds.  A bit eerie and
ominous.  Percussive bits and some
cityish sounds, more of the choral chanting. Bits of guitar enter, and become
more prominent.  This one also had good
build of tension throughout</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height: 107%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; mso-ansi-:EN-US;mso-fareast-:EN-US;mso-bidi-:AR-SA">, <span style=":yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">with the percussion coming more
to the fore and the choral chanting way to the back as it concludes, with just
the percussion ending.</span>  Once again, I enjoy all of your contributions this time.  </span>

dr wu23:  <span style=": yellow;">XTC “Summer’s Cauldron”  Crickets. 
Sure makes me miss summer!  I am
not as familiar with XTC’s repertoire as I should be, but have always liked
whatever I’ve heard and this is no exception. 
Birds continue chirping here and harmonica (or accordion, or on a
keyboard?).  Trees dancing drunk with
nectar, lovely lyrics.</span>  
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<p ="msonospacing"="">Kees:  Luc
Ferrari “Presque Rien Avec Files”  Whirrs
and skirrs to start.  Storm sound and
almost imperceptible tapping, or footsteps. 
Metallic sounds.  All is very
muffled, there are also sort of maraca sounds in there.  Birds chirping come to the fore, with some
industrial type deep booms, but from a distance.  Whirrs and whomps, maybe the sound of a large
piece of aluminum being moved, then some drum beats and cricket sounds, with
muffled voices and a cry of some sort.  Woman
voices and drums again, with loud whomps and muted marimba sounds, or someone
running their fingers across a comb?  Male
voice and birds.  I’m imagining this is
all on some sort of back alleyway/street, with some overdubs of things,
later.  Fun listen.

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<p ="msonospacing"="">Lorenzo: 
Alberto Fortis “Mary”  Video was
unavailable for me, however, Lorenzo reminded me that I’ve heard this one.  Very beautiful, passionate song!  F. De André “Creuza de ma”  (Out of Competition)  Begins with bagpipes, perhaps Genoese ones?  (a great instrument for the outdoors!).  Band enters, male vocalist, I like the
earthiness of this piece.  The chorus is
very rich and lush.  Lovely acoustic stringed
instrument played during the bridge.  I
enjoyed this group way back in the polls, as well as the first selection, here,
but this is different than the piece presented then.  Village street sounds/music/singing at end.
Lovely.  <span style=": yellow;">Gang “Johnny Lo Zingaro” 
Another very village/folk sound from the start, a solo woman
singing.  Full band then, in a spare
arrangement at first.  Reminds me, in
spirit, of some of the Breton musicians who blended rock with folk, such as
Malicorne.  Violin solo is very folkish
and delightful.  The pace picks up into
more of a jig/reel pace.</span>  This
would be my fave of yours, with F. De André being out of competition. 

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Alberto Fortis : Mary

Does https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0FubRDfxxUs

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 10:42
Yes, thank you, Lorenzo!  Sounds much the same as the one I have, but a little different in terms of sound quality.  Neither better nor worse, but sounds different, as in perhaps what the recording was from, LP or CD etc

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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 17:08
Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Yes, thank you, Lorenzo!  Sounds much the same as the one I have, but a little different in terms of sound quality.  Neither better nor worse, but sounds different, as in perhaps what the recording was from, LP or CD etc

Thanks to Nickie, I have changed idea:

My nomination:

F. De André: Creuza de Ma






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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: January 10 2022 at 17:30
No orgasmic moans? Stern Smile


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 09:03
So, starting my listening journey to the Field Recordings... Page 1:

I prophesy disaster: Ah, Windchase! I had this album on cassette (which have all been thrown away... and I didn't replace this one with an LP or CD). Nice to hear again, although I also understand why I still didn't buy a replacement...

Snicolette: Oh, Grice is immediately a contender. This is a wonderful piece of music: I love the sound effects, the cracking of the record and the wonderful instruments mixed in - atmosphere and dramatics! Will listen to the album! The gobbling turkeys are fun; I had a similar experience with chickens, but decided not to make a carreer out of it... Owain Phyfe is also very nice to hear, but a bit too gentle for me now. The Pipes of Pan didn't succeed to improve my attention span...

Mila: Eh, I'm very familiar with the music of Stockhausen, so this one is well known to me, and very appreciated. Thylacine starts off nicely, but I regret he feels the need to put in that overwhelming electro beat - for me it destroys the musical potential of his sonic exploration. A bit of a similar impression with Ty ft. Mpho: there is definitely an interesting quality in it for my ears, but also some moments that come over as very standard/formulaic...

Lewian: Ieh, another immediate contender... I didn't know Sohrab, but this will be corrected. These are the soundscapes and collages that I love. I do know that wonderful film Step Across the Border and thus this snippet. Indeed, the film has much more to offer; great sample, though. Funex is much more spare with the traditional instruments, so after a first listen I thought I might like a bit more dramatics put in through them... At the same time the piece went by much faster than the 4:54 indicated. So I had to listen to it again (and again), but no: those two minutes really lasted almost five... Those dramatics are there, but in a very subtle way. Very nice! (But I do prefer Sohrab... Tongue)

mathman: Ooh, I heard some work of Bang on a Can before, but not these. Very nice, all four, although Casino Trem and Fade to Slide are going a bit in too many directions. I prefer the other two, The Ontology of an Echo and Nocturnal; they are more coherent to my ears. And of these two I prefer The Ontology of an Echo - a great piece of work!




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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:19
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

So, starting my listening journey to the Field Recordings... Page 1:

Mila: Eh, I'm very familiar with the music of Stockhausen, so this one is well known to me, and very appreciated. Thylacine starts off nicely, but I regret he feels the need to put in that overwhelming electro beat - for me it destroys the musical potential of his sonic exploration. A bit of a similar impression with Ty ft. Mpho: there is definitely an interesting quality in it for my ears, but also some moments that come over as very standard/formulaic...
It seems we had the same inspiration! There's a series of compilation albums about European avant-garde, noise and experimantal music that includes Luc Ferrari and Stockhausen of course. Do you know that record series?- As for my other suggestions, I was rather busy but still wanted to participate in this interesting poll. I posted this piece by the French electronic music artist in the first place because of the video that shows him in the work process. However, field recordings have been used on numerous ambient/chill-out albums, so here we have a good example of this. The third suggestion by British rapper and producer Ty I chose because of this idea to introduce his neighbourhood in its entirety by combining the music with sounds of that place, lyrics and images. I came across that video by chance because he sadly passed away recently due to covid. He was an old school hip hop artist whom I cherish very much. He collaborated i.a. with great Tony Allen on multiple occasions.



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 11 2022 at 11:41
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

So, starting my listening journey to the Field Recordings... Page 1:

Snicolette: Oh, Grice is immediately a contender. This is a wonderful piece of music: I love the sound effects, the cracking of the record and the wonderful instruments mixed in - atmosphere and dramatics! Will listen to the album! The gobbling turkeys are fun; I had a similar experience with chickens, but decided not to make a carreer out of it... Owain Phyfe is also very nice to hear, but a bit too gentle for me now. The Pipes of Pan didn't succeed to improve my attention span...

So happy you enjoyed Grice, that is actually one of my favourite releases of 2021.  Gobbling turkeys were for fun, I've never forgotten that segment on the radio, still makes me laugh.  Owain was sort of sentimental for me, I wish I did know of a great live performer video there where you hear many of the sounds of Faire, there are sounds of crazy parades moving past and loud shouts over at the jousting ring, not to mention the other performers/barkers, etc.  Pipes of Pan was just an interesting thing of it's day.  I have often wondered if The Rolling Stones would have been more innovative as time went on, if Brian had lived longer.  He was very interested in exotic music.  A wonderful film with tons of great music in it, is "Meetings With Remarkable Men," just wasn't sure if some of the selections on the soundtrack were true field recordings, similar to my problem with posting David Lindley's and Henry Kaiser's works from Madagascar.


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 12 2022 at 06:28
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

It seems we had the same inspiration! There's a series of compilation albums about European avant-garde, noise and experimantal music that includes Luc Ferrari and Stockhausen of course. Do you know that record series?


No, I don't know that album series, but I do have a couple of Stockhausen albums, including Kontakte (the whole thing, thus). I have some other compilations of electronic music and indeed you'll often find Ferrari, Stockhausen and some other more or less famous figures on those...


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 12 2022 at 06:31
Page 2:

dr wu: I do love me some XTC... and love this album and this track. Always good to hear again.

Lewian: Vague memory of The Tear Garden; fits nicely after the XTC track. A bit more sound experiments in it and a nice interplay between these, the guitar, keys and the rhythm section, and very accessible. Nice track, but not as special as Sohrab. Holger Czukay is another great choice, so much could be picked of his work, but known to me - I recently played the LP again...

suitkees: Almost Nothing, With Girls... Yes, that's what it is... I hear the birds and the wind and the girls... Almost nothing. Ermm

jamesbaldwin: The Alberto Fortis video won't play for me, but I found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FubRDfxxUs" rel="nofollow - this one , hope it is the same. Starts of with a bit of rain and the Sioux chanting to merge into a nice pop song - nice, but not extraordiMary... I prefer the Fabrizio de André's more folky ballad, ending in a market place recording(?). Nicely melodic and great singing. Gang start of with a (gypsy?) woman singing before the band kicks in with a nice mix of pop-rock and more traditional balkan/gypsy-like flavors (thanks to the violin and accordeon...). Sound a bit like a balkan incarnation of the French group Zebda... (also late 80s early 90s sounding). Still, I'd go with de André.


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 13 2022 at 02:05

In order to contribute to musical diversity I decided to waive my initially proposed musique concrète piece by Stockhausen and to suggest another option instead.

Hidden Orchestra: Wandering


Live @Edinburgh Jazz Festival, 2010

Hidden Orchestra is the solo studio projcect of Scottish multi-instrumentalist, composer and producer Joe Acheson, whose albums and live shows include guest musicians from diverse musical backgrounds. He plays bass, drums and percussion and uses field recordings.

The piece 'Wandering' is from their debut album 'Night Walks' (2010). In terms of musical style, it is a blend of elements of jazz, classical music, drum'n'bass, rock and hip hop. - Some of you may already be familiar with this musical project but I hope that you will still enjoy this excellent piece.



Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 13 2022 at 02:15
I’m really surprised by what is showing up here, and there’s some really cool stuff! I guess I was expecting to see some more “mainstream” selections, along the lines of Pink Floyd, for example. But a lot of these are quite “out there”.

I guess Pink Floyd were probably the first band I ever really became aware of how much field recordings can add to a musical piece - even though they were definitely not the first band or artist in my music collection to use field recordings. A lot of the time, I think, field recordings go almost unnoticed by the listener - and I wonder if that’s why some people have struggled with this poll. Perhaps, simply thinking too hard about it?

The Beatles, Black Sabbath, Bowie, Crowded House, Queen, U2, and so, so, so many more popular and mainstream artists have utilised field recordings. But it’s possible that they are simply absorbed without listeners realising that they are field recordings - simply because they are so well integrated, and so integral to the sound of the song. Their absence would likely be far more noticed, than their inclusion.

That aside, I’ve really enjoyed a lot of the selections here, and I will try and give my take on at least some of them. I will also endeavour to add my own selections. I’m sorry to have some hat neglected my own poll, but I have been stupidly busy. Life, eh? Something about it being a female dog, and then you expire. Well, I’m not expired yet, so I guess I’m somewhere within the female dog portion.

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 13 2022 at 02:47
Ok, I’m the interests of trying to get something down before I go to work, and have to leave this for another day, here are my favourites so far (yes, it’s most of them! 🤪):

Windchase - I love this. Very cool. I’m going to check this band out.

Grice - I already knew this, so already knew I loved it. It’s one of two albums released last year that are built around birdsong. The only reason I have for not voting for this is that I was already familiar with it. (Otherwise, it might well be my first choice!)


Stockhausen - Again, a track I knew - but a bloody brilliant one. It was probably a good idea to later add the Hidden Orchestra nomination, as I’m guessing as wonderful as the Stockhausen is, too many people will already be familiar with it, and therefore be less likely to vote for it. That Hidden Orchestra, though! Wow! Another band I need to check out.


Thylacine - I really enjoyed this. I can understand where the criticism has come from, regarding the electronica to become too intrusive and overbearing, but I don’t feel it is quite that detrimental.


Sohrab - Oh yeah, this is good stuff. Like Grice, it reminded me of one of the artists I was thinking of nominating.


Bang on a Can - I have heard some Bang on a Can, but these were new to me. It seems others might disagree, but although I enjoyed them all, Casino probably would be my choice. I like the idea you had to provide both studio and live versions. (And, I should add, I also liked that same provision of both aspects of Hidden Orchestra.)


The Tear Garden - another great nomination! So much great music shared here. It might not be at all what I was expecting (see my last post), but I’m not at all disappointed, so much as delighted. And this is delightful!


Luc Ferrari - I’m a sucker for bird song, and this has bird song, so…. 😜

But seriously, this is quite magnificent. I’ll be checking out Luc Ferrari, for sure!


Alberto Fortis, I did enjoy, but I am so glad you changed your nomination to Fabrizio de André, because I love this.


I realise I haven’t said much, but I’m in a bit of a rush, and I don’t want to procrastinate further. And I really, really do want to express my appreciation for all the selections so far.


I’ll try and post my own selections before I go to work, but if not, then (sigh), tomorrow.




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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 13 2022 at 07:48
Quite understandable that real life can get in the way of when your poll is happening (been there!), Nick.  We can even decide to extend it, if you feel it warrants it.

So pleased that someone else knew of GRICE.  Completely understand not using it as a potential to your podium (as Lorenzo would say Smile), because of familiarity.  I do exactly the same thing.  Almost kind of a reaction video response, with the freshness of it outweighing potential bias because of it's being known already.

I think you're not seeing a lot of Beatles, Floyd, etc, because most of us, myself included, do try and bring lesser-known music here.  First song that popped into my mind when you suggested the category was The Beatles' Blackbird.  Smile  Then went to similar with David Cousins' We'll Meet Again Sometime, from "Two Weeks Last Summer."

Thank you for taking the time for some reviewing, looking forward to what you will bring, should it be possible for you this time around.



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 14 2022 at 05:17
Listened to them all now - I see Nick's point very clearly. It was clear to me from the beginning that the topic can be interpreted in various manners and there are things dominated by field recordings, very experimental stuff, and then also very subtle use of field recordings that is hardly noticed in quite a bit of popular music, and then also things that were recorded "live in the field" where all we're hearing contributes to the experience. Quite heterogeneous this field! But all these can be good!

Windchase: That's a fine piece, field recordings are there but don't do that much (subtle!).

Renaissance Faire Performer: Very relaxed and folky - I didn't have the "live in the field" interpretation on my radar before hearing this and actually playing it in this context changes the listening experience. Interesting! I also liked the Pipes of Pan at Jajouka, although half of it is probably enough length for me.

Stockhausen: Kontakte is maybe the first proper avantgarde electronic piece that I have heard in my life, my grandfather had it. I didn't really get it at the time (aged 14 or so) but it has grown on me big time. In fact it has more than 35 minutes in the original version, you're considerate with us here. Wink
Thylacine: This is probably the one of yours I'd most likely vote for, as I don't know it yet. Great, for sure a contender.
Brixton Baby: I loved the video, having lived some 10 minutes by bike from Brixton for 14 years. By the way, the population of Brixton (2011 census) is 26% black, 59% white - the video doesn't exactly suggest that. It's a good choice but musically not really my cup of tea.
I'm a big fan of the Hidden Orchestra but they wouldn't benefit from the surprise factor in this poll.

George: "The only music I can think of" - not sure you are aware of how much field recordings occur in music that sounds rather "harmless". Wink Anyway, I love the first piece by Tyondai Braxton (I know him but not this one). The others are intriguing, too, but may require more listens to really get inton them.

Summer's Cauldron: Very good use of field recordings here - they clearly contribute but don't dominate. Well done!

Luc Ferrari: suitkees you're of course notorious for playing stuff that has a good probability to appeal to me, and this is right up my alley, although I need to reserve 15 minutes of "total listening" for this one - my first scan had other things going on at the same time, and then it's hard for such a piece to do its magic.

Fabrizio de Andre: Good that you changed your preference as this does much more for me than the Alberto Fortis one. A nice melodic song with some "magic" (which is missing for me in Fortis) and good use of recordings and noises. The Gang one is somewhere in between, the melody tells me more than that of Fortis but less than Andre's.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 14 2022 at 11:30
For silly puppy...Wink




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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 14 2022 at 12:54
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Windchase - I love this. Very cool. I’m going to check this band out.
 
Windchase - Symphinity, from which the track I posted came, is the only album by this band. However, this band does contain members from the better-known Sebastian Hardie, the two bands being musically similar. From Sebastian Hardie, I recommend Four Moments.
 



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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 14 2022 at 13:05
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Windchase: That's a fine piece, field recordings are there but don't do that much (subtle!).
 
Four tracks of the eight on the album contain field recordings. However, the track I chose contains more field recordings than the other three, and is also the best track musically of the four and possibly the entire album, though my favourite track on the album is No Scruples, which doesn't have any field recordings.
 



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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: January 14 2022 at 13:15
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

I prophesy disaster: Ah, Windchase! I had this album on cassette (which have all been thrown away... and I didn't replace this one with an LP or CD). Nice to hear again, although I also understand why I still didn't buy a replacement...
 
Along with Sebastian Hardie - Four Moments, Windcase - Symphinity was one of my "must-have" CDs. For a period of time, it was expensive/difficult-to-get. But eventually it became available to me, along with the other Sebastian Hardie albums.
 



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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 15 2022 at 01:42
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Luc Ferrari - I’m a sucker for bird song, and this has bird song, so…. 😜

But seriously, this is quite magnificent. I’ll be checking out Luc Ferrari, for sure!


I can recommend the album this is from, in the "Acousmatrix - History of elctronic music" séries. The two longer pieces on it are real gems: "Petite symphonie intuitive pour un paysage de printemps" (Little intuitive symphony for a spring landscape) and Hétérozygote are masterpieces to my ears. You can also find them on youtube. Not on youtube, but one of my personal favorites is "Et tournent les sons dans la garrigue" (And sounds are spinning in the garigue), although the CD that was released of it does not capture the splendid intensity of the live concert I attended to some 10-12 years ago...


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 15 2022 at 03:08

@suitkees
I mentioned that album series earlier but you said you were not aware of it. Wink



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 15 2022 at 04:25
^ Because these are two different series: if I'm not mistaken, you're talking about the "Roots of Electronica - European avant-garde, noise and experimental music" series, which I didn't know before you mentioned it here (and I actually doubt it ever got a physical release...), while I am referring to the "Acousmatrix - history of electronic music" series, which is a CD series of the early 90s (with a re-release somewhere around 2005).


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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 01:50
Right, I have a day off work, and I mean to get this done. As I have arisen early on a Sunday morning to do this, I’m going to start with Cronofonía’s “Dawn (Reprise)”, which closes their rather eponymous, and rather impressive, double album (released last year). As I’ve said, I love the use of bird song in music. The band here deliberately choose woodwinds that sound similar to birdsong to begin the song, and end it with recordings of actual birdsong. The final minute or so is almost purely birdsong.

(I thought that I had already posted my review of the album on PA, but when I went to link it here, it wasn’t there. Now it is, and if you are interested, you can read it http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2672687" rel="nofollow - here .)


Cronofonía was not something I had thought of to share here, and it was only after the song turned up on shuffle last night as I was falling to sleep, that I realised it would make a nice introductory piece, even if I doubt I will choose it as my nomination. (I always go to sleep with my iPod on shuffle, and it’s usually the only time I listen to songs, rather than albums - but the randomness seems to help me get to sleep.)

The album that made me want to choose field recordings for this poll, though, is Henika’s “Strange Creatures”, which is absolutely one of my most favourite albums of 2021. Henika recorded hours upon hours of native birdsong, and used it as instruments for her album. Some of the recordings are used unaltered, and others are looped and sampled to great effect. Almost every track on the album is a different style, so there’s pop and jazz and blues, etc. - but all with the twist of being full of birdsong. Dawn Chorus is far from my favourite track, but as the opening number is is a fairly great statement of intent. I highly recommend giving the whole album a listen https://henika.bandcamp.com/album/strange-creatures" rel="nofollow - here !


And, if you want to hear some of the birdsong as it actually sounds, Henika has made a compilation of some of the field recordings she made, and posted it on YouTube:


One last video, and this one is not actually the piece I would choose, or perhaps the piece I might choose, but not this version. Pie Are Squared released two wonderful albums last year (Muri and Con Calma), and a new version of this track appeared on Con Calma. Pie Are Squared is Egyptian sound musician, Mohammad Asraf, who likes to use field recordings from wherever he happens to be living. That’s in Italy presently, but Pie Are Squared has a release recorded when Mo was living and working on an oil rig, for example, so all his releases have quite a diffferent flavour.

(My reviews for Muri and Con Calma, if you’re interested, are https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2020/06/09/pie-are-squared-muri/" rel="nofollow - here  and https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2020/09/27/pie-are-squared-com-calma/" rel="nofollow - here .)


I could list hundreds of examples, because so much music I love uses field recordings. But these will do for now, I’m sure! 😜




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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 02:22

@suitkees
Ah ok, the subject is not quite the same but there are surely certain overlaps. I noticed that the Acousmatrix series was released by the Studio for Electronic Music in Cologne. I will have a closer look at it. Whether my compilation got released physically, I don't know. The named publisher or label is Brain Disques. There was a Hamburg-based record label in the 1970s, Brain Records specialized in electronic music and krautrock. There could perhaps be a connection.



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 07:02
Additional suggestions...

Mila: I quite like this groovy track of Hidden Orchestra, really great listen. If I remember well, Lewian also put this act forward in one of these IA-polls, a long while ago - I may have to explore their music more to get to know them better...

Nick: I'm one of those "who like prog but are not at all interested if it's trying too hard to emulate the classic symphonic era of the '70s", as you say in your review, but this track of Cronofonia sounds fresh and modern enough to draw my attention! I also like the stance and approach of Henika, but somehow the computer generated accompaniment (drums, notably) put me off a bit. A pity, because I like how she reworks those bird songs. There is definitely a great soundscape quality in the track by Pie Are Squared, but it remains slightly too much on the meditative side for me. I prefer Cronofonia of these.


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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 07:26
^ I get what you are saying with Henika, so possibly I would have been better putting forward another track, that was less computer generated.

“Birdie Sings the Blues” -  https://youtu.be/vn4uYqdg3UQ" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/vn4uYqdg3UQ

…or, possibly my favourite song on the album….

“Forest Nocturne” -  https://youtu.be/ivyth4COJOI" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/ivyth4COJOI

Forest Nocturne features the various calls of Aotearoa’s native owl, the ruru (Māori name) / Morepork (Pākeha name). I love it! 🦉🥰





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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 08:37
First thoughts through the remainder, plus an addition:

Mila:  Hidden Orchestra “Wandering”   Some old recorded radio DJ (?) voice, then drums and bass and whirrs (whirrs sound a lot like a big gong, only repeating and down in the mix, kind of behind everything else)  and a high-pitched something, then keyboards with a repeating melody.  I think it moves on to guitars repeating but could also be done on keys.  This one has a fair sense of forward motion.  Ends a bit abruptly after a reprise of the first part.  Fun to watch the live one, to see how they recreate it live.

Nick:  Birds and the morning, just go together.  Imagine a world without birdsong.  It would be a sad thing, indeed.  May we never see that day dawn.  Cronofonia “Dawn (reprise)”  Shakuhachi type flute, then moves into more orchestral territory.  I have a feeling I’m going to like this.  Yep, electric guitar softly comes in, then drums and the rest of the band.  Flute swirls in and around as the band steadily plays along.  Surprised by a male vocalist, then a violin (and perhaps more strings).  Plenty of dynamics in the piece, as it falls back to minimal, rises again in a crescendo, then moves, as you’d stated, into pure birdsong for over a full minute. Lovely.  Henika “Dawn Chorus”   This one starts the opposite way, with birds at the fore, and indeed, throughout.  Kind of a quirky, lilting female vocalist, this is a style that is enjoying a lot of popularity right now.  She uses herself in chorus also, as well as the birds, creating her own dawn chorus.  Upbeat, like a promising morning.  Henika’s video of dawn chorus on Tiritiri Matangi Island:  This will have to wait and play off and on as I have time, I’m assuming out of competition.  I do like to have natural background sounds esp at this time of year, windows closed on the West Coast of the US for the most part.  Pie Are Squared “Heard From a Distance”  Underpinning electronic wash sound, then another type of wash, gentle, lapping waves.  The changing sounds are quite subtle, but do build in intensity and volume, very slowly.  A sound is added that at first reminds me of conch sounds, but resolves into more of an electric guitar/violin sort of sustain.  This becomes almost sonar-like, then, fairly abruptly, ends.  Henika Extras:  “Birdie Sings The Blues”  Birds start, then plucked double bass.  Here she is more sultry, much more of a blues/jazz kind of vocal.  Slide guitar comes in, making it more Delta/folky.  This one I do prefer, to the first one of hers.  Let’s see how the final one goes.  “Forest Nocturne”  This sounds more like where I live, in summer.  Twin Peaks country, lol, with those fingersnaps.  More of the sultry vocal, with some wild choral ornamentation and some weeeeeeee sorts of sounds.  A bit more quirky jazz here.  Faves here were Chronofonia and Birdie Sings The Blues.




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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 08:46
^ I listened to the whole album just now; quite nice! A wide variety of styles (blues, jazz, rap...) grounded in an electro-pop sound and a nice work on the bird songs. On some tracks those machine generated (or maybe better: triggered) drum and percussion sounds fit in quite well, like on The Future of the Species and Gotta Run... on others they give a bit too much of a self produced quality to the music. Still a very pleasant listen overall and a notable effort to use bird songs in this way! Will buy the album, also to support the conservation efforts over there...


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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 08:59
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

^ I listened to the whole album just now; quite nice! A wide variety of styles (blues, jazz, rap...) grounded in an electro-pop sound and a nice work on the bird songs. On some tracks those machine generated (or maybe better: triggered) drum and percussion sounds fit in quite well, like on The Future of the Species and Gotta Run... on others they give a bit too much of a self produced quality to the music. Still a very pleasant listen overall and a notable effort to use bird songs in this way! Will buy the album, also to support the conservation efforts over there...

I’ll be honest. My initial reason for buying the album was definitely because I knew all proceeds were going to conservation. I liked what I heard, but I wouldn’t say I loved it. But knowing that taking a chance on the album was going to do some good regardless of how much I might end up liking it did certainly sway my decision making. Repeated listens had the album grow on me to such an extent that it will easily make my end-of-year list if I ever make one. (Obviously not for PA, and a lot of my favourite albums every year will never appear in PA! 😄)





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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 09:04
We have a troll voting here.

This poll is taking too long (I am a jerk, I know). It's 12 days old and still no final nominations deadline. Voting? 

And then we have the worst case of trolling. Someone surely likes to mock our efforts here. 




Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 09:14
^ I don’t think it’s a troll. I think it’s someone resetting the scores to zero (or, rather, to one), because of the two previous votes.

Has everyone submitted all they want to? If so, then by all means let me know the nominated tracks (some have already done so), and I can enter them in the poll, and we can commence voting!

[EDIT] I always find that the polls don’t usually give me enough time, so I’m not worried about how long this is taking, so long as people are still participating. It probably does feel longer to you, simply because you’ve been sitting this one out, until now. If this were not at the beginning of the year, I would be far more inclined to speed things up, but (perhaps not for you) a lot of people find this a very busy time of the year, and so I let it run on a little longer than I probably would have otherwise. The new poll can begin as soon as nominations are up, as we don’t need to wait for people to vote in my opinion.



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 09:18
Is Pink Floyd's Cirrus Minor suitable here?
I would like to nominate it if I may. 
I'll post the video if that's ok. Smile


Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 09:22
^Go for it! The Pink Floyd discography is full of field recordings, and they were the first band to make me aware of how much field recordings can add to a song, so it was almost a shame that they haven’t been posted here.



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 09:24
^ ok then, my nomination



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 12:22
And adding Cristi's:

Cristi: Pink Floyd “Cirrus Minor”  Even though I know most of Pink Floyd’s music, this one I am not familiar with, perhaps because of how it was released.  I love this era of Floyd.  The piece begins with birdsong, then PF-style eerie vocals and sustained notes on organ.  Guitar is kind of to the back, and mostly to bolster the vocal.  The birds chirp up from time to time, as the organ plays solo.  Flourishy washy sounds enter the mix.  Little bits of guitar or? crop up, sounds almost like effected keys after a moment, however.  Ends in birdsong.  Thank you.  Smile


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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 12:43
We once used electricity-static-like sounding crashes to some effectiveness in breaking up a solo section. The transition was driving us bananas, but my friend solved it with 2 crashes. Somehow, it was the perfect fit. Since then, my friend has also employed earthquakes, coin drops, thunder, and other sound effects … but I have a special place in my heart for electricity-static-like sounding crashes.

It is fun trying to emulate natural sounds on typical instruments, which is something different. I mentioned in another post how I like how Robert Fripp of KC makes a guitar pattern that reminds me of water dripping off of a cavern wall. That is the opening to Fracture. The most notable guitarist for making animal sounds might be Adrian Belew, formerly of KC. I especially like how he used them in his solo albums.


Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 13:03
Originally posted by Jaketejas Jaketejas wrote:

We once used electricity-static-like sounding crashes to some effectiveness in breaking up a solo section. The transition was driving us bananas, but my friend solved it with 2 crashes. Somehow, it was the perfect fit. Since then, my friend has also employed earthquakes, coin drops, thunder, and other sound effects … but I have a special place in my heart for electricity-static-like sounding crashes.

It is fun trying to emulate natural sounds on typical instruments, which is something different. I mentioned in another post how I like how Robert Fripp of KC makes a guitar pattern that reminds me of water dripping off of a cavern wall. That is the opening to Fracture. The most notable guitarist for making animal sounds might be Adrian Belew, formerly of KC. I especially like how he used them in his solo albums.

Sometimes it’s impossible to tell the difference between natural and instrument. Some of the taonga pūoro (traditional instruments of Māori New Zealanders) are made to perfectly replicate native birdsong. In my review of Ruby Solly’s Pōneke, I mistakenly assumed all the birdsong was from the many field recordings Ruby used in the creation of her aural tribute to Pōneke. Actually, it was all from taonga pūoro. Take a listen to this album, and you’ll hear what I mean:
https://rubysolly.bandcamp.com/album/p-neke" rel="nofollow - https://rubysolly.bandcamp.com/album/p-neke

(My review -  https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2020/08/24/ruby-solly-poneke/" rel="nofollow - https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2020/08/24/ruby-solly-poneke/  )

The bird like taonga pūoro appropriately reappear in last year’s Bird Like Men - the debut album from Ruby’s new group. Two other members of the group are Ariana Tikao and Al Fraser, whose music I have shared in a previous interactive poll.

https://ororecordsnz.bandcamp.com/album/bird-like-men" rel="nofollow - https://ororecordsnz.bandcamp.com/album/bird-like-men  )





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Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: January 16 2022 at 13:45
Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Sometimes it’s impossible to tell the difference between natural and instrument. Some of the taonga pūoro (traditional instruments of Māori New Zealanders) are made to perfectly replicate native birdsong. In my review of Ruby Solly’s Pōneke, I mistakenly assumed all the birdsong was from the many field recordings Ruby used in the creation of her aural tribute to Pōneke. Actually, it was all from taonga pūoro. Take a listen to this album, and you’ll hear what I mean:
https://rubysolly.bandcamp.com/album/p-neke" rel="nofollow - https://rubysolly.bandcamp.com/album/p-neke

(My review -  https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2020/08/24/ruby-solly-poneke/" rel="nofollow - https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2020/08/24/ruby-solly-poneke/  )

The bird like taonga pūoro appropriately reappear in last year’s Bird Like Men - the debut album from Ruby’s new group. Two other members of the group are Ariana Tikao and Al Fraser, whose music I have shared in a previous interactive poll.

https://ororecordsnz.bandcamp.com/album/bird-like-men" rel="nofollow - https://ororecordsnz.bandcamp.com/album/bird-like-men  )





That’s really neat! Very organic sounding, indeed.

There is a nice little demonstration of Maori instruments at this link for anyone who is interested. I love listening to world music to find and incorporate new ideas.

https://youtu.be/Gz_8SyGXLkE" rel="nofollow - Maori instruments

I’ve tried some of the Garritan plug-ins for emulating world instruments, but I find that it is often difficult to get a human-like produced natural sound. Sometimes, one can get close but it is difficult to beat the organic sound of a person playing real instruments … when you desire an instrument that produces sound waves in the 3 traditional manners: vibrating string, vibrating air column, or vibrating membrane. Often, I also enjoy electronic sounds, but that is for a cosmic futuristic sound rather than a natural sound (although there are also sounds that seem both natural and futuristic …).



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 17 2022 at 15:45
I'll nominate Zarrin by Sohrab.


Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 17 2022 at 16:04
If everyone can check that I have their nomination, and the correct nomination, then we can begin voting!



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 17 2022 at 16:17
My nomination is GRICE, I feel it is most suited to the category of my choices and hopefully has gained them some more attention.  

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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: January 17 2022 at 16:33
I hadn't decided but am good with Casino Trem as my nomination.


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: January 18 2022 at 10:59
So, I'll start off voting. Mine go to:
- Grice
- Sohrab
- Hidden Orchestra (it was between them and Cronofonia for my third vote...)

I very much liked this theme, which, if it would be up to me, could come back again some day, because there is so much more to discover...

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 18 2022 at 12:23
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

So, I'll start off voting. Mine go to:
- Grice
- Sohrab
- Hidden Orchestra (it was between them and Cronofonia for my third vote...)

I very much liked this theme, which, if it would be up to me, could come back again some day, because there is so much more to discover...

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 18 2022 at 12:29
is there a playlist I missed? 


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 19 2022 at 06:20

Here's the playlist. I was hesitating since I couldn't find Nickie's piece in the thread. The video that I have lasts only one minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9TgLx1N0eI&list=PLRF2N4J-pa5Qp-EW5KmQZI1Cs_n4uVtxi&index=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9TgLx1N0eI&list=PLRF2N4J-pa5Qp-EW5KmQZI1Cs_n4uVtxi&index=1
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An audio of "Agent Starling" by Grice is available on their bandcamp site (duration 7:58). Is this it, Nickie?
https://hungersleeprecords.bandcamp.com/track/agent-starling-high-roller-glitch" rel="nofollow - https://hungersleeprecords.bandcamp.com/track/agent-starling-high-roller-glitch



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 19 2022 at 06:31
my three choices
Windchase - Lamb’s Fry
Sohrab- Zarrin
XTC - Summer’s Cauldrom


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 19 2022 at 08:02
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:


Here's the playlist. I was hesitating since I couldn't find Nickie's piece in the thread. The video that I have lasts only one minute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9TgLx1N0eI&list=PLRF2N4J-pa5Qp-EW5KmQZI1Cs_n4uVtxi&index=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9TgLx1N0eI&list=PLRF2N4J-pa5Qp-EW5KmQZI1Cs_n4uVtxi&index=1
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An audio of "Agent Starling" by Grice is available on their bandcamp site (duration 7:58). Is this it, Nickie?
https://hungersleeprecords.bandcamp.com/track/agent-starling-high-roller-glitch" rel="nofollow - https://hungersleeprecords.bandcamp.com/track/agent-starling-high-roller-glitch

  Thank you so much, Mila, for the playlist!  Smile  As far as "Agent Starling, yes, Grice doesn't have the full-length piece up on YT, so I used the bandcamp link.  We've done that before, and even dropbox links or soundcloud on occasion.




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 19 2022 at 09:47
Thanks for the playlist! This always is a big help for these polls.


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 19 2022 at 17:45
@ Nickie
I'm glad that I posted the correct link. It got burried somewhere in the comments. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 19 2022 at 18:00
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@ Nickie
I'm glad that I posted the correct link. It got burried somewhere in the comments. Thumbs Up
  

Thank you Mila!  Also please check your messages.  Smile

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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 19 2022 at 18:11
Again, truly difficult choices here.  Many thanks to Nick for the poll, Mila for the playlist and as always, our fearless leader of these polls, Lorenzo.

1.   Cristi:  I am a sucker for old psych.  Extra points for pulling a PF track I’d never heard before.  Pink Floyd “Cirrus Minor”  Even though I know most of Pink Floyd’s music, this one I am not familiar with, perhaps because of how it was released.  I love this era of Floyd.  The piece begins with birdsong, then PF-style eerie vocals and sustained notes on organ.  Guitar is kind of to the back, and mostly to bolster the vocal.  The birds chirp up from time to time, as the organ plays solo.  Flourishy washy sounds enter the mix.  Little bits of guitar or? crop up, sounds almost like effected keys after a moment, however.  Ends in birdsong.  Thank you. 

2.  Nick:  I am also a sucker for dynamics and complexity and violins.  Cronofonia “Dawn (reprise)”  Shakuhachi type flute, then moves into more orchestral territory.  I have a feeling I’m going to like this.  Yep, electric guitar softly comes in, then drums and the rest of the band.  Flute swirls in and around as the band steadily plays along.  Surprised by a male vocalist, then a violin (and perhaps more strings).  Plenty of dynamics in the piece, as it falls back to minimal, rises again in a crescendo, then moves, as you’d stated, into pure birdsong for over a full minute. Lovely. ALSO  IF HE’D CHOSEN:  Henika Extras:  “Birdie Sings The Blues”  Birds start, then plucked double bass.  Here she is more sultry, much more of a blues/jazz kind of vocal.  Slide guitar comes in, making it more Delta/folky.  This one I do prefer, to the first one of hers. 

3.  Lorenzo: And, I am also a sucker for these rustic village kinds of pieces.  F. De André “Creuza de ma”  (Out of Competition)  Begins with bagpipes, perhaps Genoese ones?  (a great instrument for the outdoors!).  Band enters, male vocalist, I like the earthiness of this piece.  The chorus is very rich and lush.  Lovely acoustic stringed instrument played during the bridge.  I enjoyed this group way back in the polls, as well as the first selection, here, but this is different than the piece presented then.  Village street sounds/music/singing at end. Lovely.  ALSO IF HE’D CHOSEN:  Gang “Johnny Lo Zingaro” 

RUNNERS UP:

I prophesy disaster:  Windchase “Lamb’s Fry” 

Christian:  Sohrab “Zarrin” 

dr wu23:  XTC “Summer’s Cauldron”  



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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: January 23 2022 at 05:02
I won't vote for Pink Floyd and Hidden Orchestra because I knew these already, both great suggestions though.
XTC is hit and miss for me, I'm not enthused by this particular one. I love experimental music but the Luc Ferrari one has not enough "music" as far as I'm concerned; the field recordings are rather presented as they are than "worked with" to create a new sound world. Cronofonia is good to listen to, maybe a bit too conventional for me from a melodic/harmonic point of view.

The remaining four are all fine and would all deserve a vote, damn, these polls always end in dilemma. I'm not in the mood for symphonic prog today and will therefore vote against Windchase, which leaves me with Fabrizio de Andre, Grice, and Bang On A Can, the latter two being full of fun surprises, and De Andre for a very tasteful composition.



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 23 2022 at 07:52
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

The remaining four are all fine and would all deserve a vote, damn, these polls always end in dilemma. I'm not in the mood for symphonic prog today and will therefore vote against Windchase, which leaves me with Fabrizio de Andre, Grice, and Bang On A Can, the latter two being full of fun surprises, and De Andre for a very tasteful composition.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: January 23 2022 at 12:45
-Windchase-'Lambs Fry'....I have that lp....like it almost as much as Sebastian Hardie.
-Pink Floyd-'Cirrus Minor'.... a minor classic imho...the early Floyd is all intriguing .
-Hidden Orchestra-'Wandering'....unknown to me...unique and weirdly engaging.

-Cronofonia-'Dawn'.....also unknown to me....not sure why but reminds me of Phideaux at times....nice.


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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: January 23 2022 at 13:05
This was a really hard to choose only three from.

Some I could remove from contention because of familiarity (eg Grice, Pink Floyd) who almost certainly would have received my vote otherwise.

In the end I went for Luc Ferrari, not so much because it stood out more from the others, but because it seems to not have attracted so many votes and that’s a pity, because it’s quite a beautiful piece.

Despite knowing Bang on a Can, I didn’t know this piece, and I enjoyed it, so I gave it a vote. Well, actually, that’s not entirely true. I allocated it a number on a die, and I rolled it. The other number rolled was allocated to Windrush. Yes, that’s really how I chose who to vote for - because I really did enjoy everything on offer more or less equally.

Thanks for putting up such interesting nominations.

For those who enjoyed Cronofonía, it’s a 2cd album that was born in Mexico, but has a quite international flavour. If you did like the track I shared, chances are you might like the album. And you’ll probably know some of the supporting cast of musicians.

Joaquín “Negro” Ortíz – Vocals, Guitars
Pablo Patricio Ortíz – Guitars, Bass

with:

Dave Bainbridge – Keyboards, Guitars
Frank Van Essen – Drums, Strings
Sally Minnear – Vocals
Jinian Wilde – Vocals
Sam Blue – Vocals
Gabriel Agudo – Vocals
Pablo Romaro – Guitar
David Cross – Violin
“Snake” Davis – Saxophone, Tin Whistle
Jeroen Goossens – Flutes, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon, Recorders
Peter Weekers – Shakuhachi
Fernando Marín – Viola Da Gamba
Jonas Pap – Violoncello
Ilya Dynov – Vibraphone, Marimba
Montse Cruz – Marimba
Andrés Hernandez – Timpani, Gong, Tubular Bells
Efrén Capiz Castañeda – Drums
Emily Owen – Vocals
Craig McLeish – Vocals
Xanax Ortíz – Vocals
Dora Juarez Kiczkovsky – Vocals
Dave Brons – Vocals
Katrine Amsler – Soundscapes
Heriberto Cruz – Piano
Javier Pérez – Tuba
Cesar Pola – Trombone
Cuauhtemoc Silva – Trombone
Jenny Cárdenas – French Horn



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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 23 2022 at 14:08
Thank you, Nick.  It was a wonderful poll and now, of course, I've been hearing more that would have qualified that I was unfamiliar with before (and of course enjoyed listening to everyone's entries).  

Maybe I need to dig up a die, lol.  Smile

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

This was a really hard to choose only three from.

Some I could remove from contention because of familiarity (eg Grice, Pink Floyd) who almost certainly would have received my vote otherwise.

In the end I went for Luc Ferrari, not so much because it stood out more from the others, but because it seems to not have attracted so many votes and that’s a pity, because it’s quite a beautiful piece.

Despite knowing Bang on a Can, I didn’t know this piece, and I enjoyed it, so I gave it a vote. Well, actually, that’s not entirely true. I allocated it a number on a die, and I rolled it. The other number rolled was allocated to Windrush. Yes, that’s really how I chose who to vote for - because I really did enjoy everything on offer more or less equally.

Thanks for putting up such interesting nominations.

For those who enjoyed Cronofonía, it’s a 2cd album that was born in Mexico, but has a quite international flavour. If you did like the track I shared, chances are you might like the album. And you’ll probably know some of the supporting cast of musicians.

Joaquín “Negro” Ortíz – Vocals, Guitars
Pablo Patricio Ortíz – Guitars, Bass

with:

Dave Bainbridge – Keyboards, Guitars
Frank Van Essen – Drums, Strings
Sally Minnear – Vocals
Jinian Wilde – Vocals
Sam Blue – Vocals
Gabriel Agudo – Vocals
Pablo Romaro – Guitar
David Cross – Violin
“Snake” Davis – Saxophone, Tin Whistle
Jeroen Goossens – Flutes, Oboe, Clarinet, Bassoon, Recorders
Peter Weekers – Shakuhachi
Fernando Marín – Viola Da Gamba
Jonas Pap – Violoncello
Ilya Dynov – Vibraphone, Marimba
Montse Cruz – Marimba
Andrés Hernandez – Timpani, Gong, Tubular Bells
Efrén Capiz Castañeda – Drums
Emily Owen – Vocals
Craig McLeish – Vocals
Xanax Ortíz – Vocals
Dora Juarez Kiczkovsky – Vocals
Dave Brons – Vocals
Katrine Amsler – Soundscapes
Heriberto Cruz – Piano
Javier Pérez – Tuba
Cesar Pola – Trombone
Cuauhtemoc Silva – Trombone
Jenny Cárdenas – French Horn



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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 25 2022 at 15:22

In view of the quite complex subject of this poll, I needed some time to find appropriate evaluation criteria. The possibilities to deal with ‘field recordings’ in music are almost endless. However, it seemed important to me that the use of field recordings was a key component in the respective composition. Therefore, I listened closely to each individual composition several times, from start to finish, and this is where my votes will go to:

Luc Ferrari: Presque rien avec les filles

Luc Ferrari was a pioneer in electronic music and ‘musique concrète’. The latter is a type of music composition where recorded sounds are used as raw material. Compositions in this idiom are not restricted to common musical rules of melody, harmony, rhythm, metre, etc. which is not easy to compare with most pieces in the mix. Being imo the piece closest to the subject of this poll, I see Ferrari with his “Presque rien avec les filles” running through the finish gate quite easily.

Grice: Agent Starling (high roller glitch)

This is a well-crafted composition where birdsong and music are combined to create a beautiful soundscape. Electronica, acoustic instruments, strings, and field recordings are all finely and seamlessly interwoven. In terms of music genre, it is a blend of electronica, symphonic rock and jazz, I would say. As a jazz fan I was especially captured by the sound of the trumpet that inevitably reminded me of Miles Davis’ cool jazz period. The fact that this is a relatively recent recording, adds to the attractiveness of this contribution for me.

XTC: Summer's Cauldron

A pleasant and well-crafted art-rock piece, where field recordings are well integrated into the music. This is actually something that I would want to listen to every now and then. I had a quick listen to their Skylarking album which offers consistent quality.

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Grand Jury Prize: Bang on a Can All-Stars - Casino Trem

Avant-garde/experimental and contemporary music always arouse my interest. Thus I’m all the more pleased to learn that this is a musical project, an open creative group that is always on the move, heading to new shores. - For me it was between Luc Ferrari and the Bang on a Can crew. I decided to give way to Luc Ferrari because I think that a musique concrète piece should not be missing in this edition. You may remember that one of my suggestions was a piece by Stockhausen. I always try to be as diverse as possible in my voting.

Music Legend Award: Pink Floyd

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Thank you all for your great contribuions and for your interesting comments! A big thank you goes out to Nick for organising this inspirational poll. Smile

Btw. I had a quick look at the scoreboard and I'm not quite sure whether everyone who commented on their favourites did vote there as well?




Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 25 2022 at 15:43
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Grice: Agent Starling (high roller glitch)

This is a well-crafted composition where birdsong and music are combined to create a beautiful soundscape. Electronica, acoustic instruments, strings, and field recordings are all finely and seamlessly interwoven. In terms of music genre, it is a blend of electronica, symphonic rock and jazz, I would say. As a jazz fan I was especially captured by the sound of the trumpet that inevitably reminded me of Miles Davis’ cool jazz period. The fact that this is a relatively recent recording, adds to the attractiveness of this contribution for me. 

So happy to have expanded the audience for Grice so much with this poll.  Smile  I always enjoy the in-depth commentary you bring, as well!



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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: January 25 2022 at 17:14

@Nickie - I whish I could comment at least on all nominated songs, but I can't make it due to lack of time. In fact, things would be a lot easier for me if it was in my own language.
I guess, you are aware of the review about Grice's One Thousand Birds album on PA? I haven't listened to the entire album yet, but I think that we should talk to the reviewer! Tongue



Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: January 25 2022 at 17:22
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:


@Nickie - I whish I could comment at least on all nominated songs, but I can't make it due to lack of time. In fact, things would be a lot easier for me if it was in my own language.
I guess, you are aware of the review about Grice's One Thousand Birds album on PA? I haven't listened to the entire album yet, but I think that we should talk to the reviewer! Tongue

  I'll have to go and look. Depends on who is doing reviews, I know a few who I generally agree with and few who I don't.  

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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: July 17 2022 at 12:27
https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/field-recordings-list?fbclid=IwAR1uRYxm9vTXIJFSF9A9W-QR0ujjZb38Pl7mowOlKeDigz1yFPCJph61TPo" rel="nofollow - https://daily.bandcamp.com/lists/field-recordings-list



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