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Ady Cardiac
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2012 Location: Witney , UK Status: Offline Points: 396 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:43 | ||
its a nice little town.....has a few chavs and has its own townie lifestyle...a tiny alternative scene...about 20 odd pubs/bars......its also David Camerons constituency........
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 03:43 | ||
I'm more impressed by Tesco's burgers than I thought I was - it says the sample tested contained 29% horse meat - I'm surprised they contained that much meat.
On holiday last year the good lady wife turned her nose up at Steak Haché œufs à Cheval on the menu in every café we dined at even after repeated attempts to explain it was beef not horse and just means "on horseback" just like devils on horseback and pigs on horseback.
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Neelus
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 346 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 04:05 | ||
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 04:12 | ||
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Tapfret
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8602 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 05:25 | ||
^yup, when you consider Oreo's are a qualifying vegan food, it makes sense that obese vegans, while not the norm, can and do exist.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 05:56 | ||
^ the point being that unhealthy eaters are not unhealthy because the eat too much meat, they are unhealthy because they eat too much.
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:06 | ||
True - many years ago, my mother was told by her doctor that if she wanted to lose weight the best & most foolproof way was to eat exactly what she ate everyday, but just less of it.
There is no correlation between vegetarianism & health; lifestyle/moderation & health, certainly, but eating meat or otherwise makes no difference. |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:26 | ||
Reading on Facebook of people throwing their burgers away. Now that is disgusting.
edit Because of a comment I left my nephews wife will feed them to a cat. That's better anyway. Edited by Snow Dog - January 16 2013 at 06:30 |
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Neelus
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 346 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:42 | ||
According to this article Tour cyclists consume about 6000 calories per day during competition. Thats alot of cheeseburger.
http://cyclingnz.com/cnz5_science.php?a=72 |
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:50 | ||
The root problem is the same as for so many other issues: too many people on this planet, and too many of them concentrated on huge urban areas.
In this small Belgian village you can still go to the local butcher whom you know personally and have beers at the cafe with, when you walk your dog beyond the village houses you walk next to his cows which quietly and freely graze the abundant grass the whole day, a limited number of cows in a very large field, in spring you see the young calves grazing around and growing week by week, every few days you see him taking a couple of cows to slaughter with his tractor and you know when you buy a steak the next day that it's from the cow you saw yesterday passing on the tractor oblivious of her fate a couple of hours later. I visit Senegal often and in the small coast villages you tell a local guy in the morning that you would like a lobster for dinner, he goes to sea with his tiny boat and a couple of hours later he is back with a smile on his face, a living lobster on his right hand and some fish for his own family dinner in his left hand. I guess that 500 years ago when all meat and fish were obtained in similar fashions, people rarely cared or even thought about vegetarianism (let alone veganism). It's the modern mass-volume ways of providing meat and fish to the alarmingly huge population which have caused the issue to raise.
I guess that some vegetarians (I'm not one of them) practice it because they see it as a noble cause, meaning that their concept of 'nobility' is possibly different from ours. Probably they see it not too different from refraining from buying a real mink fur coat or things like that, and this is not meaning that they deluse themselves thinking that their choice is gonna change the world, but it's just their personal statement to raise awareness about some issues that might otherwise get ignored. |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:54 | ||
It is terrible. What's wrong with eating horsemeat anyway? Why is it any more aceeptable or unnacceptable than eating cow, or lamb or deer?? It is of course a cultural thing, and I suspect the biggest problem here is that Tesco were selling what were supposadly beef bufburgers, without declaring the horsemeat contents in the ingredients. Years from now we'll all be eating fake meat grown in labs anyway, from stem cells, and most people will be coaxed into thinking that is perfectly ok, through decades of pressure and brainwashing from 'ethical' politicians who will all still be gorging on venison and fois gras every day. |
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 06:57 | ||
They couldn't, they and Iceland didn't know.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 07:30 | ||
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 08:00 | ||
^I made a Quorn lasagne on Monday. Very good it was too...
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awaken77
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 09:11 | ||
I'm negative to veganism, or any other "sectarian" ideology , either religious or not
Edited by awaken77 - January 16 2013 at 09:13 |
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Neelus
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 346 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 09:12 | ||
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 09:48 | ||
WTF?
Edited by Slartibartfast - January 16 2013 at 09:49 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 10:36 | ||
The principles of growing meat meat from stem cells in a lab, is established. That is actual meat, not meat substitute like soya. Mass producing it is the challenge, as no doubt marketing it to people like me will be too. |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 10:43 | ||
Because we can does not mean that we will - there are lots of things we can do in a lab that never find commercial application. I just do not think that doom and gloom dystopia isn't as imminent or as likely as many believe it to be.
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: January 16 2013 at 10:53 | ||
Nobility over semantics, impressive.
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