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mrcozdude 
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 Posted: December 16 2009 at 20:51 |
 jplanet wrote:
Yeah, I don't buy the b.s. about searching for threads before starting one. As debrewguy pointed out, they weren't involved in the old thread...the point is being in a discussion, and being in one that is current, not just making sure it's been discussed...the forum is a place to interact, there are plenty of areas of PA that are databases designed to store unique bits of data.
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Yeah exactly.The actual thought is completely dumb.
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jplanet
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Posted: December 16 2009 at 21:01 |
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To go one further, and to answer the original poster's proposal at the same time: Here's an idea for a rule for new and old members alike:
How about stop insulting other members? This goes for their musical tastes, how they express it, what aspect of it they want to discuss, etc...There are far greater injustices in the world like hunger, bigotry, oppression, cruelty to animals and people, where frustrations can be justly placed in order to achieve something more worthwhile, rather than waste energy on scolding and belittling some prog fan eager for interaction in a community. I do know of at least two very good long-time members of PA who don't dare post here any more because of the condescending and insulting attitudes of many members.
Edited by jplanet - December 16 2009 at 21:03
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 00:52 |
You should only be repeating a discussion if you think you can add something new to it. You are not adding anything to new to a fantasy supergroup discussion by creating it again. Alternatively, you should resurrect the old thread about something, we don't lock old posts.
jplanet wrote:
To go one further, and to answer the original poster's proposal at the same time: Here's an idea for a rule for new and old members alike:
How about stop insulting other members? This goes for their musical tastes, how they express it, what aspect of it they want to discuss, etc...There are far greater injustices in the world like hunger, bigotry, oppression, cruelty to animals and people, where frustrations can be justly placed in order to achieve something more worthwhile, rather than waste energy on scolding and belittling some prog fan eager for interaction in a community. I do know of at least two very good long-time members of PA who don't dare post here any more because of the condescending and insulting attitudes of many members.
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| 2. No Personal attacks (flaming or trolling). Keep it civil, show respect at all times for your fellow members. Disagreement, debate, even "heated" discussion is fine (though emoticons should be used to "soften" the effect of words). However, personally directed insults, denigration, etc. will not be tolerated, and will be grounds for warning and, if not stopped immediately, ejection. This applies equally to forum posts AND private messages. "Group-directed" insults and denigration (e.g., racism, sexism, ageism, etc.) also fall under this category, any such behavior will be taken on a case by case basis. Any member who engages in continuous baiting, borderline insults, or other continuously "aggressive" behaviour will be warned. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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jplanet
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 01:06 |
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I agree that it is generally good forum etiquette to wake up an older thread, and maybe a gentle debriefing that the chosen topic has become something of a joke - when done in good humor and reminding the new member that they are welcome - rather than mocking, which tends to fly under the radar of the Rule #2 you pointed out...
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
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Location: England
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 03:19 |
Why dont women like prog?  I mean, what is their major damage here? All they seem to want to do is dance, have fun and sleep with good looking interesting guys, who make them feel good about themselves! I just cant work them out. The other week my girlfriend dumped me after I arranged a surprise Mars Volta seminar for her, exploring the hidden meanings in all the endless horrible noise that makes up most of Frances the Mute.
I guess some people just dont understand...
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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progkidjoel
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 04:28 |
^  
All of the 'nu-prog'/'new prog'/'new sub-genre to force every post-1990 band together' threads are also pretty ridiculous. Not content wise, but I remember Dean posted the links to all of the threads in one of them, and there was like 11 or something ridiculous.
+ its a stupid idea.
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Blacksword
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Location: England
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 05:13 |
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Has anyone else ever wondered what Rush would have sounded like, if Emerson Lake & Palmer had written all the songs, and played all the instruments?
It keeps me awake at night, as does fretting over which of my favourite prog singers would best be able to survive in the jungle, armed only with a biro, and one Pot Noodle. This week, I think its Peter Hammill..
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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The T
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 10:44 |
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Really... and all of you are talking about how bad some threads are....
A thread where you only talk about other threads is always much worse and more useless than any other thread, even one of those "Genesis vs Yes" ones...
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Blacksword
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 10:50 |
The T wrote:
Really... and all of you are talking about how bad some threads are....A thread where you only talk about other threads is always much worse and more useless than any other thread, even one of those "Genesis vs Yes" ones...
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Just a bit of fun, really.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 12:31 |
I'm going to start a Utopian Thread. The rules are as follows:
There will be:
- no bashing of other threads
- no offensive posts
- no stupid comments
- no avatars that someone doesn't like
- no proclamation of love for a band
- no proclamation of hate for a band
- no proclamation of indefference toward a band
- no ranking of bands
- no mention of Porcupine Tree
- no mention of Dream Theater
- no mention of Tool
- no mention of Yes
- no mention of Genesis
- no mention of King Crimson
- no ranking of any of the aforementioned groups
- no assemblage of supergroups
- no poofters
- no proclamation of an inability to get into a band
- no proclamation of a sudden ability to get into a band
- no advice or help to assist one's getting into a band
- no consumption of crumbly snacks over the computer resulting in little bits of food lodged in the keyboard
- no suggestions for PA band inclusion
- no replies
- no original posts
- no fun
- no games
- no seriousness, that's too boring
- no posts of any sort
- nothing.
WHO'S WITH ME?!?!  |
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"WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!"
-The Great Gig in the Sky
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CPicard
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Location: Là, sui monti.
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 13:03 |
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I AM!!!
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The Runaway
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Location: London
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 17:31 |
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ME TOO!!!
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debrewguy
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 18:52 |
jplanet wrote:
To go one further, and to answer the original poster's proposal at the same time: Here's an idea for a rule for new and old members alike:
How about stop insulting other members? This goes for their musical tastes, how they express it, what aspect of it they want to discuss, etc...There are far greater injustices in the world like hunger, bigotry, oppression, cruelty to animals and people, where frustrations can be justly placed in order to achieve something more worthwhile, rather than waste energy on scolding and belittling some prog fan eager for interaction in a community. I do know of at least two very good long-time members of PA who don't dare post here any more because of the condescending and insulting attitudes of many members.
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I love you J (and the new album!) 
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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mrcozdude
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Joined: July 25 2007
Location: Devon,UK.
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 19:02 |
jplanet wrote:
To go one further, and to answer the original poster's proposal at the same time: Here's an idea for a rule for new and old members alike:
How about stop insulting other members? This goes for their musical tastes, how they express it, what aspect of it they want to discuss, etc...There are far greater injustices in the world like hunger, bigotry, oppression, cruelty to animals and people, where frustrations can be justly placed in order to achieve something more worthwhile, rather than waste energy on scolding and belittling some prog fan eager for interaction in a community. I do know of at least two very good long-time members of PA who don't dare post here any more because of the condescending and insulting attitudes of many members.
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Everything there should be noted.This forum is terrible for this. As much as I love it here,I get fed up with everyones over reactions to various newbie posts.
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A Person
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 19:28 |
mrcozdude wrote:
jplanet wrote:
To go one further, and to answer the original poster's proposal at the same time: Here's an idea for a rule for new and old members alike:
How about stop insulting other members? This goes for their musical tastes, how they express it, what aspect of it they want to discuss, etc...There are far greater injustices in the world like hunger, bigotry, oppression, cruelty to animals and people, where frustrations can be justly placed in order to achieve something more worthwhile, rather than waste energy on scolding and belittling some prog fan eager for interaction in a community. I do know of at least two very good long-time members of PA who don't dare post here any more because of the condescending and insulting attitudes of many members.
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Everything there should be noted.This forum is terrible for this.
As much as I love it here,I get fed up with everyones over reactions to various newbie posts.
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That is why if I see a thread that I don't feel like answering again, I don't. The only time I've pulled the "be mean to newbies" card was that one thread that the OP posted in all caps, in which almost everyone who posted mocked the OP by posting in caps.
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mrcozdude
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 19:33 |
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^ It's cool.Not blaming anyone.It sound like it was dealt with humourlessly as well.
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Drew
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 19:57 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
I'm going to start a Utopian Thread. The rules are as follows:
There will be:
- no bashing of other threads
- no offensive posts
- no stupid comments
- no avatars that someone doesn't like
- no proclamation of love for a band
- no proclamation of hate for a band
- no proclamation of indefference toward a band
- no ranking of bands
- no mention of Porcupine Tree
- no mention of Dream Theater
- no mention of Tool
- no mention of Yes
- no mention of Genesis
- no mention of King Crimson
- no ranking of any of the aforementioned groups
- no assemblage of supergroups
- no poofters
- no proclamation of an inability to get into a band
- no proclamation of a sudden ability to get into a band
- no advice or help to assist one's getting into a band
- no consumption of crumbly snacks over the computer resulting in little bits of food lodged in the keyboard
- no suggestions for PA band inclusion
- no replies
- no original posts
- no fun
- no games
- no seriousness, that's too boring
- no posts of any sort
- nothing.
WHO'S WITH ME?!?! |
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Henry Plainview
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Location: Declined
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Points: 16715
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 20:32 |
jplanet wrote:
I agree that it is generally good forum etiquette to wake up an older thread, and maybe a gentle debriefing that the chosen topic has become something of a joke - when done in good humor and reminding the new member that they are welcome - rather than mocking, which tends to fly under the radar of the Rule #2 you pointed out... |
While I have my disagreements with the way this site is moderated, I would say that a lax attitude towards personal attacks. Perhaps the problem is with the two long time posters' reactions to things, not the things that are actually being said...
Honestly, I can't get upset about someone hassling a newbie a little bit. There are certain unwritten rules that govern every forum, and you lurk a little bit before you start posting so you don't look like an idiot. If you don't bother to do that, or you don't bother to follow even basic forum procedures like doing a simple search, then you deserve a little bit of "zest" in the responses to your thread.
Edited by Henry Plainview - December 17 2009 at 20:33
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 20:52 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
I'm going to start a Utopian Thread. The rules are as follows:
There will be:
- no bashing of other threads
- no offensive posts
- no stupid comments
- no avatars that someone doesn't like
- no proclamation of love for a band
- no proclamation of hate for a band
- no proclamation of indefference toward a band
- no ranking of bands
- no mention of Porcupine Tree
- no mention of Dream Theater
- no mention of Tool
- no mention of Yes
- no mention of Genesis
- no mention of King Crimson
- no ranking of any of the aforementioned groups
- no assemblage of supergroups
- no poofters
- no proclamation of an inability to get into a band
- no proclamation of a sudden ability to get into a band
- no advice or help to assist one's getting into a band
- no consumption of crumbly snacks over the computer resulting in little bits of food lodged in the keyboard
- no suggestions for PA band inclusion
- no replies
- no original posts
- no fun
- no games
- no seriousness, that's too boring
- no posts of any sort
- nothing.
WHO'S WITH ME?!?! |
I can post political cartoons then?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: December 17 2009 at 21:26 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
I'm going to start a Utopian Thread. The rules are as follows:
There will be:
- no bashing of other threads
- no offensive posts
- no stupid comments
- no avatars that someone doesn't like
- no proclamation of love for a band
- no proclamation of hate for a band
- no proclamation of indefference toward a band
- no ranking of bands
- no mention of Porcupine Tree
- no mention of Dream Theater
- no mention of Tool
- no mention of Yes
- no mention of Genesis
- no mention of King Crimson
- no ranking of any of the aforementioned groups
- no assemblage of supergroups
- no poofters
- no proclamation of an inability to get into a band
- no proclamation of a sudden ability to get into a band
- no advice or help to assist one's getting into a band
- no consumption of crumbly snacks over the computer resulting in little bits of food lodged in the keyboard
- no suggestions for PA band inclusion
- no replies
- no original posts
- no fun
- no games
- no seriousness, that's too boring
- no posts of any sort
- nothing.
WHO'S WITH ME?!?! |
I can post political cartoons then?
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I believe that would fall under "posts of any sort", which I have purposefully eradicated due to their potentially offensive nature.
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"WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!"
-The Great Gig in the Sky
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