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rdtprog
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 14:56 | ||||
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Logan
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 14:58 | ||||
Hugues, but you've still listened to and reviewed Inner Worlds, and you gave it a three. Three is good in my book, and by the ratings guide. Guess your opinion changed, or you mean bad for MO, but still good overall (when compared to most albums) .......................... Sean Trane Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Specialist
With the MkII line-up partly broken up (Moran, Ponty, the strings and brass are gone), McLaughlin kept
the Walden-Armstrong rhythm section and set out to the Herouville Chateau studios and recorded in
the summer of 75 what would be known as the last real Mahavishnu Orchestra, except if you count the
84 reformation. All of the missing musicians of the second line-up were not replaced except for Gayle
Moran by organist Stu Goldberg, which for this writer is an improvement. With a bland artwork showing
who's the master on board, this album is a difficult one, because it sounds least to the usual MO sound.
Much maligned by partly undeservedly so, imho. Review Permalink Indeed this album often glides between Santana, B Auger's Oblivion Express, Jeff Beck albums (Wired and BBB), which in itself is no flaw, but surprising. With the organ-dominated, but Carribean-beating All In The Family, Narada Walden is in full form, making this 100MPH track a very enthralling opening cut with unfortunately Mc playing the guitar synth, thus taking some of the bite of his sound, but not affecting his playing. Miles Out sounds like Beck's best torture of a string set on a neck, but Mc uses synths to enhance the cosmic sounds, before Armstrong introduces a riff, easing Narada's arrival and the quartet cruises from one galaxy to the other. While very expressive a track (especially during those days), this type of space rock sounds a bit dated, today. Narada sings the next tracks, In My Life and Gita, something that would give a very late 70's/early 80's Santana feel and on other tracks of this album, close to Auger's Oblivion Express. I certainly am not saying Walden's voice resembles Litgerwood's, but the tracks he sings on have that kind of feeling. In either case, all of the sting of the previous MO album are gone, and it is certainly not the short bagpipe tune played on dumb guitar synth (interestingly, Narada is on organ here) that would change things. The flipside starts on the more convincing Way Of The Pilgrim, but Mc (sometimes) exaggerates with his technology frenzy, helped by Goldberg's mini-moog, but nevertheless, it's one of the album's better tracks. River of My Heart is to bunch with In My Life, where Narada proves that his ideas (this is the only non-Mc track) are not that easy to absorb on an MO album. The ultra funky Planetary Citizen, then the more reflective Lotus Feet, which is from far the proggiest track, loaded with mini-moog and (unfortunately) Mc's guitar synth, are giving a bit of substance to the album, before the two-part title track takes us again in outer space, sometimes taking Jeff Beck tonalities as in Freeway Jam. This ultra bizarre up-tempoed, partly improvised and completely crazy is not a bad outro for an MO exit. Clearly not MO's best album, Inner World doesn't really deserves all 100% of the bad rap and rep it endures (but 50%, certainly ;o)), many MO fans are may be a little harsh on it, but had it comes with a better artwork (ala Emerald), I'm sure it would've better better with them. Posted Tuesday, January 15, 2008 .............................................................................................. You're the most prolific reviewer, of course. Even if you don't physically own complete discographies, you managed to hear them. We don't all have a handy library resource like you do (or subscribe to Napster and the like) so owning the album (as much as one can own copyrighted material) is sometimes the way to hear them. Like with GG, I might dispense with albums that didn't do it for me. Many have theirs on big harddrives (and don't pay for all, any, or most of them), but just don't delete them even if they don't much care for them. I wouldn't wish to part with any of my Magma, Univers Zero, Present, or Robert Wyatt albums. I return to all of them. I'm very big on Art Zoyd, but I don't plan to ever get or hear the complete discography. I have many complete discographies, but mostly for bands with few albums. One might pity some of those obsessive completists wallets (the ones who paid for all of 'em, including albums they didn't really like), but as time is money, I might pity PA's most prolific reviewer. You've listened to such an amazing amount, I wonder what percentage has really made an impact on you and really got under your skin. If I like something, I like to listen man times. I'm not being serious about pitying you, we're all different, and I guess you really enjoy hearing lots of new albums and spending the time on reviewing them (sometimes you do it more on memory and I'm sure you've been into prog for a very long time). Magma's Merci is not a well-liked album, but I'm really glad I got it and kept it. Edited by Logan - August 13 2009 at 15:29 |
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rosenbach
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 16 2009 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 311 |
Posted: August 13 2009 at 15:35 | ||||
[/QUOTE]HawkwindGongAmon Düül 2Van der Graaf GeneratorPeter HammillGuru Guru (some on vinly only; no CD version of them yet)MagmaKing CrimsonMother Gong (again some of them only on vinyl; there are sadly no CD versions of them yet)Embryo (again some on vinyl only)CanSteve HackettSteve HillageKraanOzric TentaclesI probably forgot a fewof some bands we have the complete discography up to a certain point where they turned uninteresting; examples are Genesis, Tangerine Dream, ELP, Gentle Giant or Pink Floydby the way: those complete discographies include the live albums too. both Friede and I like live albums better than studio albums Great list! Considering that Hammill himself has made more than 40 official albums. I only have full discographies of Malicorne, Flairck and Van der Graaf Generator, and a lot of almost complete ones. Edited by rosenbach - August 14 2009 at 09:58 |
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natewait
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 08 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 218 |
Posted: August 13 2009 at 16:35 | ||||
Hmmm...off the top of my head...
Spock's Beard
The Flower Kings
Neal Morse
Dream Theater
Gentle Giant
Ayreon
The Beatles
I have most of Yes, Genesis, and King Crimson, but don't have some of their '80s albums, so I can't include them. There are a lot more bands that I have their discographies, but they have less than 5 studio albums, so I didn't count them.
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20380 |
Posted: August 13 2009 at 21:03 | ||||
No offence meant here, so don't take it personally these are general stateme,nt that I strongly believe in. -
I'm not tryig to ridicule you here, but it's just that I find buying every album from someone a bit.... of a waste of time §let alone money, butthat not my concern) since there are litteraly thousands of artistes worth checking out and awaiting your discovery.... So buying the weaker Ayreon or latest Pendragon sound soooooo... redundant and counter-productive to me..... And it certainly doesn't show an open mindedness either, since you are limiting your horuzons to just one style of prog., which sonically speaking is one of the more limited (save eventually post rock)
as for Script...... I grew up with it, but you'll probably find that I also liked Brave..... so I don't systematically hate neo-prog..... it's just the sheer mass of group sounding the same, most of them having whining vocals and the same sonic universe......
Hopêfully my message went through
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 21:26 | ||||
As for being prolific, my buddy Zowie is a lot more prolific.... he'll probably over-take me in a few months time >>> I hope anyway, cos I'm tired to be the guy "who has nothing better than to review everuything he listens to"
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Well I'm the type of guy that keeps only the worthy stuff. the last thing I want is a huge collection filling shelves occupying an entire room..... sooo I trim whatever I buy..... cos I buy tons of stuff (and I have friends that are lernding lme as I lend them) that my library system doesn't have. I'd say that I ordered stuff without having an idea about what I might find on it.... sometimes ending up with crap >>let's say that there s plenty that gets under my skin, but in terms of percentage, there is more that irritates my skin
It's true that my hunger for newer soundscape can makeme forget thaty some disc might be worth more listens, but in the long run, this gets done antway.... I hardly listen to the 70's classics cos I know them byheart. This gives me time to discover Sun Ra or Terry Riley
I don't deal with MP3 (not computer litterate enough to dowload.... and I need the physical object) eiter.
Readya
H
PS: A lot of my reviews (especially the ones in prog-related) are done from memory (I swung the Zep reviews in two hours, the doors eben less), BOC I onlu borrowed two albums (I haven't got any)..... so my time spent reviewing is probably less than you may think.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 22:01 | ||||
Pink Floyd
Led Zeppelin Alan Parsons Project Yes Focus (this one only up to Ship of Memories, before they disbanded and rebanded with without Jan Akkerman, and this one was a rather hard collection to get) Metallica (except for the very last album, which I heard and didn't find interensting enough to buy, at least not yet). I wonder if someone will show up saying he's got the whole Rick Wakeman discography? I would almost think that is an impossible task. |
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 22:02 | ||||
I'm still working on the Genesis, ELP, and King Crimson discographies.
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Roland113
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 22:07 | ||||
oh, hey by the way, kudos to Scott for having all of King's X.
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geddyx12112
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 22:20 | ||||
I have Porcupine Tree, rush, VDGG and Yes complete discographies, and I have a lot of Jethro Tull, bbut I'm not willing to buy some of their 80's stuff, all I have from the 80s is Crest of a Knave.
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Logan
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 22:27 | ||||
Understood. I actually do agree with your sentiments, and am usually looking to discover new music myself (though I'm not as voracious as I was a few years ago for new music, but still I'm regularly discovering new music). It's a journey, and I like to take different directions and explore lots of different music. It would be nice if more people would move out from their comfort zones and discover music such as Terry Riley and Sun Ra. It would've been interesting if this topic had been about how many complete studio album discographies has one heard as well. I could even count Rush then due to a friend. I figured you'd be a pretty speedy reviewer. I'm sure I've spent much more time on devising silly topics, or writing inane posts, at this site than you've spent on a great many reviews. I wish I would write reviews, but I don't really "feel them", or get into the zone when I'm writing them so it always feels like a chore. I respect the more prolific reviewers prowess. I had thought Zowie Ziggy might have overtaken you already until I lokked as I knew you'd slowed down. I think "Mandy etc." might have written the largest number of reviews. |
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Pekka
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Posted: August 13 2009 at 23:50 | ||||
These are the ones with five or more studio full length albums: The Beatles Kate Bush Camel Dream Theater Iron Maiden King Crimson The Mars Volta Metallica Opeth Pink Floyd Pekka Pohjola Radiohead Rush Sigur Rós Talk Talk Yes
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tamijo
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 00:23 | ||||
King Crimson, Led Zepplin, The Mars Volta, Tool, Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Gentle Gaint
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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rdtprog
Special Collaborator Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams Joined: April 04 2009 Location: Mtl, QC Status: Offline Points: 5350 |
Posted: August 14 2009 at 14:11 | ||||
I forgot my favorite band Rush. How ironic! |
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enemyofthesundevils
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 16:25 | ||||
Anathema is the only one I can think of.
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DRACCA
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 17:06 | ||||
Univers Zero
Karda Estra King Crimson Gentle Giant Frank Zappa Guru,Guru Hawkwind Jade Warrior David Bedford Klaus Schulze The Enid Edhels Gong National Health Soft Machine Billy Cobham John McLaughlin Ange Pulsar Omega Popol Vuh Neuronium Tangerine Dream Stomu Yamashta Steve Hackett Anthony Phillips Goblin PFM White Willow Camel Passport Happy The Man Far East Family Band Jethro Tull Genesis Yes Miles Davis |
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clarke2001
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 18:20 | ||||
Complete discographies?
Almost none. Khan. Okay, Led Zep, Tull, ELP ,Queen, Gong, Metallica (!) . That's it. |
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ColonelClaypool
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 19:34 | ||||
My complete discographies, in a delightful mix of prog and non-prog artists:
Pink Floyd Porcupine Tree Kyuss Queens of the Stone Age Mars Volta Opeth Enslaved Devin Townsend (except for Devlab and Hummer, but I'm not into ambient at all so they don't interest me) Strapping Young Lad Monster Magnet Mastodon(they've only released 4 so far though.... ) Led Zeppelin Tool Windir |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 19:39 | ||||
Khan? That's cheating isn't it? It was supposed to be a minimum of 5 studio albums, so I'll cheat a little, too. OK, rack me up for Khan. Prog or not: Tori Amos Djam Karet Explosions In The Sky Frech Frith Kaiser Thompson Peter Gabriel Gentle Giant Gongzilla Happy The Man The High Llamas King Crimson Led Zeppelin Sarah McLachlan The Muffins The Nice NIN Nirvana Phideaux Porcupine Tree Primus Radiohead The Reasoning Roxy Music Stereolab Sting Talking Heads Steve Tibbetts UK Various Artists (kidding) Robert Wyatt XTC Some artists just have either too big of a studio discography, or stuff that's just not worth having. Others I am still working on. Edited by Slartibartfast - August 14 2009 at 19:41 |
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Roland113
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Posted: August 14 2009 at 19:46 | ||||
Hah, kudos to you Slarti for having the complete Sting discography as well. In the process of researching my earlier answer to this question, I learned that Sting's coming out with a new CD later this year. It will be the first non-prog CD that I've bought in a year or two.
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