My generation

Manuel wrote: I'm glad to hear there are many young people of today who have a brain and a good taste in music. I personally find very insulting that prog music has no support from the industry, and low class sound like the popular stuff of today is blasted all over the environment, pulluting the airwaves and destroying any hope for humanity as we know it. Thanks guys, for keeping the tourch of "Real Music" alive and carring it to the next generation. There should be and award for all of you, youngsters of today, who stand for yourselves and don't let the decadent music industry fill your brains, hearts and souls with garbage.

Hey everyone, didn't you know that listening to popular music automatically makes you a dumbass?
I guess I must be a real dumbass because lately I've been listening to the song Decode by Paramore about 5 times a day.
I must be a real retard because I quite enjoy Linkin Park's debut album.
I guess I have to apologize for not listening to "real music" non stop.

Seriously, I don't know how people look at themselves in the mirror and can honestly say they believe in that elitist crap.
I have all sorts of stuff in music collection from progressive technical death metal, 20 th century classical music to pop rock and you know what?
It's all good sh*t to me and the pop music I do like, I genuinely like it because I enjoy the music, not because x radio station or y tv commercial has told me it's trendy.
Sometimes I'm just not in the mood for an epic classical composition, or for listening to a full on technical death metal assault and just want to throw on some Paramore, be it the emo power pop rock that it is.
Is that a crime?

^I can stomach several albums of Merzbow in one day.
You can't even handle one, pussy:P

Those kids and their sex, marijuana, Jazz, hitch-hiking, and tolerance...

MartyMcFly89 wrote: I live in 200k city. I'm talking about that when going thru city and only musical style that I can see is hip hop. All these flat-cap wearers, baggy trouser wearers and, what is the worst thing, having their music on mobile phones turned out loud. I don't know why but this annoys me. I wouldn't like to see rockers doing the same thing, but they don't. Metallists have sometimes their music turned out loud, for example in buses, and electronic listeners too - trance, dance, techno. And I don't listen to radio, ,except prog radios & I don't watch TV. I understand they can be goodness in hop-hop music, but how am I supposed to get thru the wraps that makes me puke ?

How do you do it with Prog ?
As far as fashion , I figure you're not taking notice of most other people that don't dress like that. There were a lot of teenagers wearing plaid in the early 90s with the grunge thing. But not everyone was into it past a few groups in that scene. Many just wore their generation's "uniform" and thought nothing more of it. And many wore a different one.
Loud music - God forbid we have young people who can't understand why their loud music  would bother others !

Radio - ??????????? Corporate concentration killed that baby a long time ago. Most people don't listen to terrestrial radio. Most now get XM/Sirius, use an MP3 player, or play CDs. The rest - well, they can't be bothered to remember that guy who sang that good song that they liked last year. Here today, gone tomorrow. Hasn't changed in Centuries.
If you can listen to prog radio, why worry about the rest ?

In summary, what are you worried about, and why ? Others choose to listen, dress, and behave as they choose to. As they always have. and always will.

MartyMcFly89 wrote: Ivan, how are you doing this that you can present us great story all the time ? It's very interesting to read them.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 16 2009 at 16:28

A Person wrote: The thing that annoys me the most is how popular culture gets thrown in my face all day long by the tv, radio, advertisements, etc. Even people, thanks to t shirts, cell phones, mp3 players, and even their taste in fashion makes me think of them as walking billboards at times. I know that none of that changes the person themselves, some of  the smartest, nicest people I know are "guilty" of liking pop music. But the fact that I only am able to listen to the music I like (btw Jimbo, thanks for mentioning Koenjihyakkei, they sound great) by sites like this. If it weren't for PA, my musical taste would be completely different. I know that prog isn't radio or consumer friendly. But it is kind of sad that we can watch all the sports we want, but there isn't a channel dedicated to Monty Python or something similar. No, old stuff doesn't sell, unless it has "The Beatles" or "Elvis Presley" on the front, especially stuff that is deemed "weird", but It does annoy me that it is virtually inaccessible from where I live.

what country do you live in where you are forced to sit in front of a TV, or a radio and listen to a station not of your choosing ?
As for weird not being popular, you mention Monty Python. Do you know of a comedian named Robin Williams ?
Do you remember a TV show called San Pedro Beach Bums ? Have you heard of a comedy troop by the name of The Kids in the Hall ? Can you explain Coltrane's enduring attraction to musos ? Have you done a thesis on why people don't care to hear any other Bay City Rollers tune except Saturday Night ?

My belief, opinion if you will, is that you need to lighten up, expand your horizons, and your reading.
Much "popular" culture does not last longer than the moment. And much supposedly "uncommercial" entertainment has managed to not only survive but thrive

A few examples - Classic Rock Radio : (PM me if you need the band name)  Roundabout, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath, Think as a Brick (single edit),  Money, Brain Damage, Welcome to the Machine, Wish you were Here, Another Brick in the Wall (PT I, II, & III. Played together), 21st Century Schizoid Man, Pull Me Under, Sober, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Closer to the Heart, Spirit of Radio, Limelight, Dreamer, Bloody Well Right, Give a Little Bit, Fool's Overture, Point of Know Return, Carry on Wayward Son, ilent Lucidity, Empire.
Then you have the community and college radio stations that play more obscure stuff, not to mention networks like Canada's CBC that has up to ten hours a week of experimental music that can include acts like Richard Thompson to Fred Frith to canadian acts like Arcade Fire or Voivod.

But of course, I could be wrong. It could be that very little outside the mainstream really surfaces in day to day life. But that would contradict what I see, read, & listen to on a daily basis. But then , I feel free to do so.
Rap, Pop & Dance music may be found in a lot of places. But don't ask me for specifics, because I don't leave my radio to those stations. Nor any station for that matter. I have CDs, MP3s and LPs.
On TV, I use my remote control to access the channels that interest me. And when my daughter or wife watch something that I don't care for , they allow me the option of not watching it, and doing something else.

I also see & hear teenages that are into music from 2, 3, 4 decades ago. Just as a lot of us were. Some stay within limited musical genres. And maybe it's just that they don't know any better, but they really don't seem to spend too much time whining that their preferred music doesn't dominate radio or TV. Mostly because they also have LPs. CDs, and MP3s of their beloved musical acts. And they also use their TV remotes to watch TV shows, and DVDs that they like.

Might be that they don't understand the torture they should feel. But then I could be wrong.

What you got is freedom of choice.
what you want is freedom from choice (for you or the others?)

I hope I die before I get old

debrewguy wrote: Have you heard of a comedy troop by the name of The Kids in the Hall ?

Loved Kids In The Hall,  Second City TV (especially Farm Film Celebrity Blowup ), too.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: MartyMcFly89 wrote: Ivan, how are you doing this that you can present us great story all the time ? It's very interesting to read them.   Simple, because I have 44 years and lived, heard or read a lot of stories (Love to  read).  In some years you'll be able to know many more, buit you won't be happy because it will mean you're closer to being old.   Found a short version of the story.   THE MIGHTY HANDFUL VERSUS THE REST OF THE WORLD     Had the five Russian composers who made up The Mighty Handful been less stubborn, they could have been playing indoors - indeed, one of the ballrooms of the Winter Palace had already been placed at their disposal. They were offered Brussels lace coverlets for goal-netting, extra chandeliers for floodlighting and wigged servants for corner flags. Such a luxurious all-weather pitch, with every facility, would have cost them only a couple of waltzes each, but they’d refused.       ‘We’re Nationalist composers,’ piped up Cui. ‘We don’t do waltzes.’       Rimsky-Korsakov - who was to orchestral colouring what a chameleon is to tropical undergrowth - suggested a compromise set of Polish-style mazurkas.       ‘Waltzes,’ the Court Chamberlain insisted. ‘Strauss-style.’       The rest is history. Throughout the winter season The Mighty Handful were forced to play their five-a-side home games in a local park where, from October onwards, the snow fell thickly, and daily. Blizzards were frequent.   Ron Butlin http://www.barcelonareview.com/38/e_rb.htm   My remembering were vague Cui was the most porud, not Mussorgsky, the reference to Vienna was read on another version of the story   Thanks for your comment.   Iván