My generation
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Topic: My generation
Posted By: Marty McFly
Subject: My generation
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 01:17
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I suppose when I'm 20 years old, current pop/hophop generation is mine. In a topic about meeting with Rick Wakeman I wanted to write this, but it grew and so I maked new topic. It's sad thing. You said [rihana] and that's absolutely right person as a delegate of what is "in" now. It really leaves me in little bit desperate shape (what exactly IS desperate shape?). When you compare him (Rick) and her, even back in '60s when they had same age. His quality, importance in rock music and his person in general is ... no words needed guys, you know what I mean :- ) but how can be majority of current generation so much confused. Confused by imposters In past times, maybe medieval times, they were listening to classical music. I mostly like classical music. Or acoustic instruments like guitar, lute, citar, these ones. Then came jazz which is quite good and relaxating, blues which I likes a lot (it's like rocking) and swing which I don't mind. Rock'n'roll of course I can handle, classic rock and then prog rock. Prog rock is my main source of music so leave it when it is. But times has changes. Punk music has it's boom back in '70, I suppose end of decade (right or not?). I can listen to punk, but not too much since I consider this music as "not good for Marty" as it lacks prog elements (they can't be found there even in microscopic sizes, meant just for headbanging. But as I said, I sometimes listen to it. We had also reggage music, well, in my eyes it's music of stoners, mostly because of in this times it's like that. Metal is not bad, heavy metal like Deep Purple is really good. Or Black Sabbath, Zeppelins. But speed metal is worse. Yeah, first two Keepers of the Seven Keys are good, but their later albums are not so good. And trash ? not good for Marty, death/doom metal ? What is point of this idiocy ? It's only about playing so loud that nobody can differ which instruments you are using. And also growling voice which can't be heard because it would surely doom me for my eternity. Oh boy, why has this genre so many followers. And I don't have to say anything about this hop hop, hop pop, r and b (which inferiously twisted rhytm and blues to rhytm and beat sh.t), pop in general, do I ? I'm sure I've just insulted someone, so please don't be insulted, it just because of lack of my facts. I like progressive music because it's hard to listen this music. I can't listen all prog music, but I'm trying to. Mars Volta as a next checkpoint ? I will prevail and will keep on trying to get this artist, because this has meaning. He is good, now I will se if he's good for me too. For now he is not. But for fuc.ing sake (what is alternative to christs?) hop hop music ? It can't be good, right ? ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
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Posted By: yes0genesis
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 10:56
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Hey, I'm 20 years old also. Yeah the state of our generation in terms of music is terrible, HOWEVER, one needs to look past all of that superficiality and blatant advertising and musical conditioning. There is no sense on dwelling on the hopeless because until marketers find a way to make prog appeal to the majority and make huge profits off of it, they will never listen to prog. In terms of different types of music, ALL types of music are good in my opinion, some you just have to search very hard, others you have to search very VERY hard, but it is there. Take hip-hop for example. I found an artist by the name of Dans le Sac vs Scroobius Pip, I think he/they is/are great. Great lyrical material, catchy beats and background music, I love it.
The key is being truly open to music. That means realizing that music is art and this art presents itself in many different ways, some in the form of 9/8 and 11/8 metric modulations, others in the form of that southern twang, whisky drinking (or not) chicken pickers, and others taking turns blowing over Coltrane changes. Some artist meld as much as they can into one, and this is a very attractive aspect of prog for me. Restricting ones artistic expression is detrimental to freedom, and makes things more dull in general.
The most important things is searching for it though, don't let supposed "poster boys" of a certain types of music turn you away from the whole picture. The are tons of country artists I dislike, metal I dislike, rock I dislike, however there are many I do like, and I can thank hard, dilligent searching for that.
Great music has always existed in many forms and will continue to do so in my opinion, just cut off that need to be a part of this generation's cesspool of musical interests (forced onto them from the media in most cases) and embrace the gift that is music, no matter what form it takes.
Mars Volta is great btw. I hated them at first because I didn't give them a chance. ------------- "To be proven WRONG should be CELEBRATED-- for it is elevating someone to a new level of UNDERSTANDING, furthering AWARENESS." |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 11:59
"Talkin' 'bout my genitalia"  What's with these kids these days with their clothes and their hair? |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 12:16
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Every generation comes up with "What's the matter with the kids today?" one day; just listen to the Guru Guru song of the same title from their 1978 double live album. What's interesting here is that one of the kids him/herself comes up with it.
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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 12:28
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This is what most kids in my school perceive listeners of Classic Rock as... (which includes lots of Prog Rock) javascript:void%280%29; -  Here's what the Classic Rock generation thinks of us...  -------------  |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 12:59
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OzzProg wrote:Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 13:27
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im 21 and think "whats wrong with my generation?" especially pertaining to music and related things...
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 13:39
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What's funny is that my brother, who's about 3 years older than me, had a bunch of friends that were in to prog. Almost none of my "peers" were. So I wound up becoming friends with his friends.
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Posted By: enemyofthesundevils
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 14:44
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I'm 30 and the only person who listens to the same music is my 50 year old father.Coincidentally we both found out about Porcupine Tree separatly but but about two weeks apart.This was about seven years ago and it changed both of our lives. As far as the current state of music goes it's mailto:s@*t - s@*t in the mainstream and it will probaly always be so but the best music continues to be the stuff you have to search for.For me that's one of the best parts for me and that's the fun of discovering underground/hard to find music.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 14:51
Why do I get the feeling the dude isn't wearing anything else under his shirt? I have an old Grateful Dead tie die in that color scheme. Wore it so often I had to retire it. |
Posted By: Morakthesage
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 15:53
| I'm 16. As has been said before, I can't say everything they play on the radio these days is bad. However, I can say the grand majority of it is, at least to these ears. I really don't know what makes young prog fans like us deviant, but if there's two things that seem to do it, it's parents that listen to lots of classic rock (prog or not) and inteligence. Personaly, I've never met a dumb prog fan. I just can't get into all of the repetition of beats and the risqué lyrics of hip hop, or the general sound of alt or indie rock. Prog offers me somthing more substantial, something to chew on for a while, and most of my high school peers refuse to try something new. It's a shame. I've introduced my friends to prog, and some of the more accesable stuff like Yes and Jethro Tull have become really popular in my clique (Kraotrock, not so much). Got to try and spread the love! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 15:56
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When it comes to commercial radio stations, I'm not surprised. You might have some good college stations in your area though.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:01
Couldn't have said it better myself.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Calculate900
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:04
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I'm 16, and I think the most popular artists of my generation have no talent whatsoever. I much prefer listening to classic rock as opposed to the rap/hip-hop/pop music of today. I remember bringing up a similar response on a different forum, so I'll just copy/paste it.
That's not to say I hate all of today's music. I like bands like Dream Theater, System of a Down, Flogging Molly, etc. But I never found rap likable (outside of bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers and Rage Against the Machine). |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:05
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I just don't care. People will make good music regardless of what is popular. Especially now with the Internet, radio and the Billboard charts are worthless. |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:09
| I find it funny that when people talk about today's music they talk about rap and hiphop as if there's nothing else there. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:32
| I'm 21 now, but I've never considered the generic pop or hip hop they play on the radio to be "the music of my generation". If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say this generation will be know as the indie rock generation, even though there's nothing new about indie rock and it's not even a genre. Maybe I haven't paid enough attention, but I think it's been awhile since anything innovative happened in music. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:32
| I eschew all of the silly piffle that's deceitfully referred to as "music" these days. I only listen to real music, and you know what? I'm a better person because of it. You don't need to hop on any bandwagon or partake in the narcosis of the current age: go for the good stuff and you're right as rain. |
Posted By: Calculate900
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:33
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:35
I don't know if you intended it to be funny, but it is. |
Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 17:16
| I'm 20 (this feels like a Current Generation Anonymous thread...) and I don't think generation has a whole lot to do with it. I mean in our parents' generation, prog was more popular than it is now (in Canada, US and UK, anyway), but they had their own share of rubbish music. You just never hear most of it because it isn't very enduring and as a result the only 60s and 70s pop that people are still aware of today are the really big names. Even when the OP references classical music, in those days Joe Average wouldn't have wandered down to the concert hall to hear the latest symphony, he would have wandered down to the tavern to hear some travelling minstrel sing a three chord song about sex with a milkmaid. Today no one really cares about those minstrels (except, perhaps, Ian Anderson) but everyone knows who Beethoven is. I'll bet you that in twenty years there will be kids listening to Dream Theater or Symphony X and thinking, "Man, our parents had some great music!" and no one will even know who Rihanna is. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 19:21
| I'm glad to hear there are many young people of today who have a brain and a good taste in music. I personally find very insulting that prog music has no support from the industry, and low class sound like the popular stuff of today is blasted all over the environment, pulluting the airwaves and destroying any hope for humanity as we know it. Thanks guys, for keeping the tourch of "Real Music" alive and carring it to the next generation. There should be and award for all of you, youngsters of today, who stand for yourselves and don't let the decadent music industry fill your brains, hearts and souls with garbage. |
Posted By: Calculate900
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 20:20
| It pains me to listen to the pop scene of today, most of it being talentless rap or Disney-sponsored pop. I'm more than happy to listen to the classics. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 20:31
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Hey, I'm 15, and for me 'this generation hype' hits me quite badly, I'm afraid. I mean, I got my friends, of course, but all of them with few exceptions that like some cool Hard Rock, like all the rubbish of the mainstream, I don't care if they like some pop singles, but I do mind that they like REGGEATON!!(still don't know how to spell it!) I like dancing with "cool" pop songs, as well as some electronica, but please Cumbia and Reggaeton are just beat-less/rythm-less/un-danceable!!! (and of course, unhearable) About clothes, I do mind some quite extremist guys, like the picture shown before of a emo or flogger, but well, if they don't appear everywhere, I'm fine, I have my rock-like clothes which makes a good distinction from the rest which I like  |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 20:40
I've been getting the impression that prog is having a renaissance (excuse me for that ). Part of the problem is there's a whole lot more of it out there from the past and new artists coming along in the present, so it's certainly diluted. There's plenty of '70's crap that's still around and I'm not going to name names because there are plenty in your parent's generation (which is mine) that have some nostalgia for it. On the bright side that generation did have kids and they discover prog either by accident or on purpose, so now you have old fans and new ones. The new ones may not exist in your particular circle of friends but I've been rather impressed by new ones (quantity and quality) I've run into on this site. |
Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 21:11
| WNYU 89.1 Tales from the Marshmallow Dimension Prog is not dead just ignored by the Idiot masses. I also love to listen 2 Technicolour web of Sound. Any New Yorkers, down on St. Marx place is Rocket Scientist Records best Prog Psyche, and new releases yet. |
Posted By: Calculate900
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 21:40
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That's another thing. I can hardly dance to the mainstream stuff. I'm probably one of the only kids I know that actually likes to "dance," but mainstream pop sends the opposite message. It's hard, if not impossible, to dance to rap; I see it as "moving" or "bouncing," but it doesn't flow as smoothly as dancing. I stick out like a sore thumb at proms. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 21:46
Oh, they have a beat. They just happen to be genres where the beat never changes. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 22:12
Back in the old days you had metronomes for that. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Isa
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 22:14
Too true, too true. I can say the same, classic-rock-listening parents + intelligence = prog, or at least for everyone I know in real life. In fact my entire clique in high school was into prog by the time we were upperclassmen (pretty soon it almost became a requirement to hang out with us ).Unfortunately I'm now in college and have met only one person who only listens to the most mainstream of prog (DT, Porcupine Tree, Yes, Genesis, etc.), which I've digested quite fine by know anyways, and pretty much everyone else listens to what I perceive as total crap.  I've tried introducing prog to my more intelligent friends, but it seems a pretty hit and miss for the bands they like. |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 22:21
I'm an old guy who's going to turn 49 in a couple of days. What Slartibartfast said is true - there was plenty of crap in the 70s. Just look at what was actually on the top of the charts at the time, if you can find it (sorry, I don't know how to  ), and you'll see what I mean. When I was a kid, I listend to AM radio, and it was all top 40. Then I discovered FM, which played more album rock. Although some of our Prog classics were popular, they were islands of quality in a sea of mediocrity, or as some say, a pat of butter in a sea of grits.  ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 08 2009 at 22:33
Yes, people forget that on AM radios the names you listened in the early 70's were
And this is from 1972 to 1975 when Prog was at the peak, in the late 70's it gets worst.
Iván
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Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 00:08
Yeah and I think you're absolutely right. Straight-up classic prog that we all know and love might not be making a comeback yet, but there's certainly a lot of Prog-ish leanings developing. Bands like Protest the Hero, Between the Buried and Me, Coheed and Cambria... while they might not be pure, straight-up prog, they've got plenty of prog elements, and they were bands that were pretty big among the musicians at my high school. Dream Theater and Opeth are pretty well-known by anyone who's into metal, and post-rock bands like Explosions in the Sky and Godspeed! seem to have a decent following in the Indie crowd. And of course, even to this day you can't swing a dead cat around without hitting a Rush fan, though that might be because I'm Canadian, and when you want a band to be patriotic about, it's either them or Celine Dion  I mean, Viva la Vida wasn't exactly an album with a lot of depth, from what I've heard of it, but it's certainly more sophisticated than your average pop album, and it was considerably successful with both critics and fans. Things are certainly looking up, I'd say. But then, that's the natural cycle, isn't it? Rock music is rudimentary, musicians begin pushing the music further and further, it begins to become less and less of a commodity and more of an art form, eventually it ends up becoming too inaccessible, and a new wave of rudiementary musicians come in to recapture the public. Wash, rinse, repeat. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 01:39
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I'm 15, and I honestly can't stand anything other than Prog or Indie rock. Hip-hop seems like such a waste of time to me, because it more than often seems to be a marketing scam rather than real music...
Indie rock is easily my favourite genre other than prog. Has anyone ever listened to Death Cab For Cutie? I highly reccomend it - Alot of it borders on prog. Its quite sad though, really, that most of the people my age will listen to Rihanna or the Pussy cat dolls... Makes it hard to find interesting girls my age ------------- 
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 02:36
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QUOTE=Isa]
classic-rock-listening parents + intelligence = prog [/QUOTE] That would certainly be my case, and possibly the only case I know of myself. But at my school there seem to be several kinds of people:
classic-rock-listening parents + low intelligence = stoner (these guys are nice though)
rolling-stone reading parents + intelligence = hipster
metal-listening parents + low intelligence = metalcore and other mainstream metal genres
 Anything else = rap/pop crowd
Luckily in my town nobody listens to reggaeton, I have heard bad enough things about it from this site.
The thing is even if those artists are just as bad as Rihanna or T-Pain or Fall Out Boy, at least in the 70's prog still topped charts and there were great bands we consider classics today. To be honest do you think Nickelback is going to be considered a classic in 30 years? To be honest I feel like there isn't going to be classic rock (or classic pop or whatever) radio playing anything from this generation of music. All the bands are fading into obscurity after a couple months of their hit single playing on the radio. Even the crappy 1-hit wonder songs from the 80's are still being played today, but there isn't anybody today whose one hit more than a couple months ago is still being played. Maybe I can see the Red Hot Chili Peppers or Radiohead being 'classic' bands, but that's about it.
Do you think any of these bands are going to be regarded as classics in the next decade?
Red Jumpsuit Apparatus
Fall Out Boy
Green Day (ok, I admit it, people might remember some of American Idiot)
Coldplay
The All-American Rejects
Plain White T's
Paramore
Panic at the Disco
We The Kings
Linkin Park
This is pretty much the only rock music that general mainstream radio is playing. Of course there is mainstream rock radio that plays other stuff, but mostly bands like these and lesser-known ones. I highly doubt that lesser known great bands like The Mars Volta and Coheed & Cambria will be classics, and don't even think about the even lesser known Porcupine Tree. ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 05:38
Man you gave me a serious case of the creeps reminding me of those. You did leave out a very important one. Starland Vocal Band. Afternoon Delight anyone?  I just threw up in my mouth a little. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 07:34
You'd be pleasantly surprised in Linkin Park's case. The album Hybrid Theory is still getting talked about on internet forums, believe it or not. People still talk about Korn, people still talk about Limp Bizkit. Look beyond some of the silly lyrics in Limp Bikzit, ignore the fact that Fred Durst is a douche and you had a band that had an influence that seeped it's way into more genres of metal than most people like to believe. The band SikTh, listed on PA, is an example of a band that combined a fair bit of nu metal dynamics with devastating musicianship and tech metal. Most of nu metal largely faded away, but Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit and Korn all have albums considered masterpieces by many people. ------------- 
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 09:08
I don't really think it's any better today than it was 30 or 40 years ago ... c'mon ... The cowsills? 1910 Fruitgum Co?
Somehow we must think that rap is ... or isn't ... and makes things different ... there was some rap then too, mostly in London (you can see some of it in the movie Performance -- and this was filmed in 1967!) ... group called "The Last Poets" ... Gil Scott Heron ... but in those days, radio did not pay attention to a lot of "street music" ... and that illusion was busted with the "Sex Pistols" and many bands following.
For me, personally, I have no qualms about the "street music" ... with one exception ... it rarely has any kind of musical value ... but it has the emotional ability to lift music standards when it is also incorporated into other areas. The expression is quite valid ... the music itself ... well , not quite.
And this is the case today ... you got a lot of things going on, including the internet and the proliferation of material makes it tough to make a call and decide what is good or not good ... it does one outstanding thing that could not happen before ... it took out subjectivity real quick ... since you can see it all on the internet now ... and you couldn't then.
All in all, there is more of a chance than ever for artists to make it and do themselves a favor and the art circles a push ... but boards like this have to get off the fan shnide.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 09:43
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It is hard to get anyone of my generation into prog, I am going to be 19 in a few months and have 4 younger siblings all of whom completely ignore the music I purposely play as loud as possible. My youngest sister in particular exemplifies the reason why it is so hard for prog to be excepted today - she doesn't care about the music, all she cares is the singing and whether or not the singer is cute. On the other hand, last night I showed my dad some videos of John Mclaughlin playing with Al di Meola and Paco de Lucia last night and he liked it. My sister does like In the Air Tonight y Phil Collins though. Maybe the way to get her, and anyone else for that matter, into better music is to start with music that is prog related and work my way into more demanding music. I don't think music appreciation is dead to my generation, but it is in a coma. |
Posted By: Calculate900
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 09:49
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I guess, then, I should be glad my sister also enjoys prog music. Her favorite bands are ELO and Styx. My dad is a major Beatles fan, knowing the words to every single one of their songs. My mom is going through her mid-life crisis, and all she talks about is Bon Jovi. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 10:35
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This good vs bad music had happened always, I told this story several times, but I believe is appropriate, in the late 1800's the Russian Nationalists leaded by the Mighty Handful (Cui, Borodin, Balakirev, Rimsky Korsakov and Mussorgsky) defied Europe with a much more complex form of music, but most of all, they were against the commercial Vienna Waltz which they considered sub-standard music. The Mighty Handful was invited to Vienna and paid a lot of money, but when they reached that city, the palace Chamberlain said that they had to play some Strauss waltzes, Mussorgsky replied "We are Russian Nationalists, we don't play Waltzes", so they couldn't reach an agreement, Borodin offered to play Polkas, but the Vienna Court wanted Waltzes. The money wasn't going to be given back, because the Russian musicians had reached Vienna and were willing to play, but in punishment and revenge they were forced to spend all winter playing in public parks at a freezing temperature,, but they never sold to the court. So probably if you ask them about the music of their time, they would reply our grandfathers had great music like Bach or Vivaldi, even our fathers had Beethoven, but we are forced to listen Dance Music as the Vienna Waltzes. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 13:21
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Hahaha, hop hop. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 15:09
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Hahahaha that's a great story, Ivan. I hadn't heard it before, anyway
(though I am pretty new here LOL). Just goes to show, previous generations
always look better because only the good stuff endures. I'm sure there
was a lot of rubbish in Beethoven's time, too, that the Russians didn't really know about ;) |
Posted By: Geizao
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 16:40
| My generation? There are MTV's waves. Kinda seasick punched me. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 16:58
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The point I'm trying to say is that this generation's great stuff is very little known. Again, I can see RHCP or Radiohead (I'm not a huge fan of either though) but other than these two any rock is pretty much 'indie'. All the crap bands are being played on mainstream radio, and don't get me wrong there are still really good bands around today, but they are hardly well known enough to be remembered as greats in the next decade or two.
Great story though Ivan.
Wouldn't the freezing temperatures break the string instruments though? It's generally dangerous to play any acoustic string instrument below 60F. -------------
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 09 2009 at 18:06
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I was at Spin-It records the other day. The young people (mid 20s) were going on about this old pretentious fart (mid 40s) in a documentary on Hardcore Punk. Seems like his big message was that they should "wake up" - that today's Hardcore punk wasn't real. Only the stuff in the early days could be. As a middle aged somewhat pretentious old fart, all I could add is that it's always like that. Things were always better in the old days. Or as one person told me - if you think you're happy, you've got one thing you can be thankful for - selective memory ! Not that there was any bad prog back in the 70s. We're just finding that out now with the treasure trove of info that we can find on the internet  ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 05:01
http://crabbyoldfart.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/god-damned-young-people-and-their-rap-music-make-me-angry/ - God Damned Young People and Their Rap Music Make Me Angry2009 June 9 by Donald Mills
The problem with young people today is that they listen to the rap music. When I was a boy, there was no such thing as “rap” or “hip hop” and we got by just fine. We listened to music by Mr. Lawrence Welk or the Paul Whiteman Orchestra. Decent music with lyrics about shining your shoes, combing your hair and the value of conformity. But these young people today, they’re all crazy for the rap recordings. I hear it blasting down the street day and night. It’s nothing but half-screamed filth that sounds like it was recorded by a Tourettes patient in the middle of a prison riot. I’d rather listen to cats fornicating for Christ’s sake. At least they have pitch. ... They should ban it, destroy it and then travel back in time and brain the jackass who invented it. ... For more go to: http://crabbyoldfart.wordpress.com/ - http://crabbyoldfart.wordpress.com/ Additional rants on: The problem with young people today is that they all have “disorders.” The problem with young people today is that they are fat. The problem with young people today is that they play video games. The problem with young people today is that they all have piercings. The problem with young people today is that they curse too much. The problem with young people today is that they slouch. The problem with young people today is that they have ridiculous nicknames. and on and on and on |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 07:38
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@Ivan
 Got to remember brainless pop has allways been there. Its not a "this generation" invention.
The Golden age of Disco, was infact the mid 70's
Grease/Saturday Night Fever was a Huge hit, at the same time as Pink Floyd was at there prime
(sales wise)
I think this is it best era ever, so much music out there to dig into, Prog/Metal and other stuff too.
The 70's produced some of the best records ever made, but the scene(s) was a lot smaller.
The real great albums came from the same small group of artists, in my opinion was no more than
40-50 act's, quite a few of them using members from each other.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 08:30
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Billboard album chart
Tool 10.000 : 1.
Mars Volta Bedlam: 3.
Poruipine, fear: 17
Dream T, systematic : 19
Pink floyd (2001) Echoes : 2
Peter Gabriel UP: 9
Im sure theres lots of Prog interested people out there !!
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 11:05
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two comment to add to Ivan & Slartibartfast's posts Tchaikovsky had no interest in restricting himself to a "national" grouping. Though he admired much of the music, and even had his first major success working with Balakirev for Romeo & Juliet. As for the "what's wrong with youth of today", I do believe that Cicero or some other old Roman guy said much the same about the attitude of young people in his own time. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Calculate900
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 15:04
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 17:46
This guy has quite a bit of posts on his blog and every single one I've read so far has cracked me up. I suspect he was inspired by Dana Carvey's grumpy old man character from Saturday Night Live. "But what really gets my goat is those god damned horrifying yellow smiley faces they plaster on everything. I don’t want sentences winking and leering at me for Christ’s sake. It’s unseemly, unnerving and a sure sign that the written word is well and truly dead." Donald Mills ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: LandofLein
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:12
Since when does intelligence have anything to do with liking prog? my favorite bands are KC, motW, and Frank Zappa, and I'm a dummy
I just listen to what I like, and I like prog
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:22
FOAB got 17? How the hell did that happen when Watershed only got 23? -------------
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: June 11 2009 at 07:08
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One of the earlier posters mentioned that this generation (the current teen/twenthsomethings) may be an Indie Rock generation. I'm tending to agree with that. Granted, I haven't been to a high school for almost twenty years now, but with the internet, there are so many different choices. If one kid wanted to listen to Progressive Jazz, it's out there. If another wants electronic Samba, it's out there. Shoot, at this point, a teenager in central Kentucky (Middle of the US) can develop an extensive collection of traditional Japanese music if they want. My point is that the internet has opened up so many possibilities. 'Popular' music, or at least the stuff that is played on the radio is becoming less and less relevant as technologically savvy kids are able to branch out further and further to the music that moves them, rather than what they're forced to listen to on mainstream radio. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Johnny_Tsunami
Date Posted: June 11 2009 at 15:13
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Yeah as some people on here are saying, there has always been an onslaught of "bad music," even in what us prog fans would consider the glory years of progressive music. We just have to keep on fighting the good fight and listening to good music in hopes that the rest of our generation can discover the classic bands of our generation like Porcupine Tree, The Mars Volta, Pineapple Thief, Riverside etc. And even then, I think our generation is going to be known more for indie than prog. Groups like Animal Collective, Fleet Foxes etc are pretty popular among college students (haha Animal Collective and Fleet Foxes are nothing alike though).------------- I likes musics |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 04:05
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Ivan, how are you doing this that you can present us great story all the time ? It's very interesting to read them. And to this topic: I like prog rock. Symphonic mostly, but I like classic rock also. And heavy rock. And old The Beatles. I even listen to soundtracks (which isn't nothing bad), like John Williams and Medievil soundtrack (Andrew Barnabas & Paul Arnold) - it's game from 99 (I think), game of my youth. I can listen occasionally to old pop too (from 60s, or 70s), to the so called enemy of rock music from 70s. OK, I must agree that even then, rock music wasn't mainstream. But look at the most famous pop-rock band, The Beatles. Aren't they the best commercial success in history of music ? Imagine one song by The Beatles, I'm sure you will know at least one. They're just too famous notto be known. Can you say it about any other band ? Well, OK, TB aren't much prog, only little bit. But what I'm trying to say is that hop-hop music is bad. Be honest and tell me one good thing about it. It has some similarity with Mars Volta for me (please, don't beat me, I'll explain) and one big difference. SIM-I'm not able to listen to both of them, DIF-Hop hop has nothing to offer, except wanabee singers, repetitive music (which isn't music at all), shocking lyrics which are shocking because they has nothing to offer - so they have to shock you to make you stop thinking about their meaning. The Mars Volta on the other hand is one of the best bands from recent times. Even I don't like them I must agree this. It's like this book, So Zarathustra said (by Friedrich Nietzsche), one of the hardest books to read. I wasn't able to read even first few pages, but yet I know it's good book. So I admire it a little bit and hope one day I'll be able to understand it and get thru this shield. OK? What has Ry-haha-na to offer ? Even as a girl she's ugly as hell and her singing is much worse. And these 50 cent and others, this is not good. I used to listen groove music a little bit, first reggae records, it was quite good. But hop hop is not. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 04:08
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And believe me, I can listen to Waltz and I know also some of these Russian composers. I don't mind both. I CAN - Classic rock, prog rock, heavy metal, light metal, classical, blues, jazz, old pop I CAN'T - Death metal (lot of growling and noise without melody and meaning), hop-hop, r n b, new pop it's not about good and bad music. If music is qualite, it's good for me. I really can'T see anything good about HH. You can guys ? ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 09:30
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I'm going to make a very generalized assumption - the hip hop / R & B / and new pop you know is limited to the stuff you hear on the Radio, or see on TV. That would be like thinking that all prog today is like Tool, Mars Volta, or Porcupine Tree. or if you're in the U.K., add Pendragon. Hip Hop - Public Enemy, Lauryn Hill, K-Os (from Canada), the Beastie Boys, the Roots and many more that don't show up on any charts but have solid careers, and much good music - for their genre. R & B - that is a dying genre, mostly replaced by Dance & Urban. But there is still some good music out there - Bettye Lavette's latest with the Drive-By Truckers. Like much prog, you gotta know where to find it. IT's out there. New Pop - although not to my taste - Jason Mraz, John Mayer. You might want to see what is considered Pop nowadays. Pop Punk - Green Day ! Pop Country has some decent acts. And while I don't care for the Jonas Brothers, my daughter loves them, and having had to listen to their albums, I can seriously say that for music that is aimed at Tweens, it's well made. Just remember that much Pop, like prog falls into obscurity. The best keeps getting played & re-played years later. Just like prog. OH, and in a bald faced attempt to promote an old favourtie of mine, check out these 20 year old rap song from the Dream Warriors Ludi : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrjeAQDk9Gs My Definition of a Boombastic Jazz Style : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwqBgMlE_ng (not the original video, unfortunately. If this sampling of Quincy Jones "Soul Bossa Nova" doesn't get your ass moving, you're dead - "bags of mostly water search to find my definition" ) Shuffle Demons - a jazz fusion doing a rap song - Spadina Bus : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnLjRi_g9o Public Enemy : played Coachella 2009 . Oh, and you may want to ask Max Roach about his view of how Rap relates to his work in jazz ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 15:13
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I live in 200k city. I'm talking about that when going thru city and only musical style that I can see is hip hop. All these flat-cap wearers, baggy trouser wearers and, what is the worst thing, having their music on mobile phones turned out loud. I don't know why but this annoys me. I wouldn't like to see rockers doing the same thing, but they don't. Metallists have sometimes their music turned out loud, for example in buses, and electronic listeners too - trance, dance, techno. And I don't listen to radio, ,except prog radios & I don't watch TV. I understand they can be goodness in hop-hop music, but how am I supposed to get thru the wraps that makes me puke ? ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 19:26
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I'm perfectly content with the music of my generation. To be honest, I'm a bit baffled as to why people get so irritated by such trivial matters - who cares what Joe Average likes? If he happens to like 'modern R&B', well, good for him. If he happens to like prog, well, more power to you Joe. Either way, what's it to me? Why should I care? As long as 'good' music (in other words; music that I happen to like) is being made in some form, I've got nothing to complain about. Besides, if Rihanna and the like were to disappear, it's not as if the kids would suddenly find their inner prog-nerd and start jamming to Koenjihyakkei - such transitions are not realistic, and thus are not exactly relevant to this topic. ------------- 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 12 2009 at 22:24
Hey everyone, didn't you know that listening to popular music automatically makes you a dumbass? I guess I must be a real dumbass because lately I've been listening to the song Decode by Paramore about 5 times a day. I must be a real retard because I quite enjoy Linkin Park's debut album. I guess I have to apologize for not listening to "real music" non stop. Seriously, I don't know how people look at themselves in the mirror and can honestly say they believe in that elitist crap. I have all sorts of stuff in music collection from progressive technical death metal, 20 th century classical music to pop rock and you know what? It's all good sh*t to me and the pop music I do like, I genuinely like it because I enjoy the music, not because x radio station or y tv commercial has told me it's trendy. Sometimes I'm just not in the mood for an epic classical composition, or for listening to a full on technical death metal assault and just want to throw on some Paramore, be it the emo power pop rock that it is. Is that a crime? -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 01:03
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Listening to Paramore should be a crime. And if you take the lyrics of pop/rap seriously, then yes, I do think you are stupid. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 01:27
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^I can stomach several albums of Merzbow in one day. You can't even handle one, pussy:P -------------
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 01:38
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 01:41
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Those kids and their sex, marijuana, Jazz, hitch-hiking, and tolerance...
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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 04:45
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OK, I should gave up, either be more tollerant, or still think this and keep it for myself.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 21:03
How do you do it with Prog ? As far as fashion , I figure you're not taking notice of most other people that don't dress like that. There were a lot of teenagers wearing plaid in the early 90s with the grunge thing. But not everyone was into it past a few groups in that scene. Many just wore their generation's "uniform" and thought nothing more of it. And many wore a different one. Loud music - God forbid we have young people who can't understand why their loud music would bother others ! Radio - ??????????? Corporate concentration killed that baby a long time ago. Most people don't listen to terrestrial radio. Most now get XM/Sirius, use an MP3 player, or play CDs. The rest - well, they can't be bothered to remember that guy who sang that good song that they liked last year. Here today, gone tomorrow. Hasn't changed in Centuries. If you can listen to prog radio, why worry about the rest ? In summary, what are you worried about, and why ? Others choose to listen, dress, and behave as they choose to. As they always have. and always will. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: June 13 2009 at 23:38
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The thing that annoys me the most is how popular culture gets thrown in my face all day long by the tv, radio, advertisements, etc. Even people, thanks to t shirts, cell phones, mp3 players, and even their taste in fashion makes me think of them as walking billboards at times. I know that none of that changes the person themselves, some of the smartest, nicest people I know are "guilty" of liking pop music. But the fact that I only am able to listen to the music I like (btw Jimbo, thanks for mentioning Koenjihyakkei, they sound great) by sites like this. If it weren't for PA, my musical taste would be completely different. I know that prog isn't radio or consumer friendly. But it is kind of sad that we can watch all the sports we want, but there isn't a channel dedicated to Monty Python or something similar. No, old stuff doesn't sell, unless it has "The Beatles" or "Elvis Presley" on the front, especially stuff that is deemed "weird", but It does annoy me that it is virtually inaccessible from where I live. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 13:59
Simple, because I have 44 years and lived, heard or read a lot of stories (Love to read).
 In some years you'll be able to know many more, buit you won't be happy because it will mean you're closer to being old.  Found a short version of the story.
My remembering were vague Cui was the most porud, not Mussorgsky, the reference to Vienna was read on another version of the story
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Posted By: hitting_singularity2
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 14:00
I agree with you there... I listen to hip hop quite a bit. but i think with 95% of rap artists it's not worth listening to the lyrics at all. In general i would say that on the albums from REALLY good hip hop artists (i could name some if you wanted me to) there are MAYBE 1 or 2 songs where the lyrics are actually heartfelt. The thing i do not like with mainstream hip hop and pop is the celebritism. Most of the popular [pop]artists out there are not responsible for the music they make. So when you say 'thier music is good' (meaning the beat etc.) you have to know who actually made the beat which is usually a different person on each track of an album. The thing about my generation (i'm 18) is that the kids just listen to what is popular and idolize the musicians for no apparent reason, since they arae not the ones with the actual talent. Most of our generation blindly listens to music without actually wanting to enjoy it.... they simply listen to what other people listen to to become popular.. however. to those that say there has not been any real musical breakthroughs recently. i say you are very wrong. There are more and more people who are using the net to create music for smaller audiences and many musicians making music that they actually want to. there are countless inovations out there but you have to look to the underground.. none of it has made it to the pop charts... yet |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 18:05
what country do you live in where you are forced to sit in front of a TV, or a radio and listen to a station not of your choosing ? As for weird not being popular, you mention Monty Python. Do you know of a comedian named Robin Williams ? Do you remember a TV show called San Pedro Beach Bums ? Have you heard of a comedy troop by the name of The Kids in the Hall ? Can you explain Coltrane's enduring attraction to musos ? Have you done a thesis on why people don't care to hear any other Bay City Rollers tune except Saturday Night ? My belief, opinion if you will, is that you need to lighten up, expand your horizons, and your reading. Much "popular" culture does not last longer than the moment. And much supposedly "uncommercial" entertainment has managed to not only survive but thrive A few examples - Classic Rock Radio : (PM me if you need the band name) Roundabout, Aqualung, Locomotive Breath, Think as a Brick (single edit), Money, Brain Damage, Welcome to the Machine, Wish you were Here, Another Brick in the Wall (PT I, II, & III. Played together), 21st Century Schizoid Man, Pull Me Under, Sober, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Closer to the Heart, Spirit of Radio, Limelight, Dreamer, Bloody Well Right, Give a Little Bit, Fool's Overture, Point of Know Return, Carry on Wayward Son, ilent Lucidity, Empire. Then you have the community and college radio stations that play more obscure stuff, not to mention networks like Canada's CBC that has up to ten hours a week of experimental music that can include acts like Richard Thompson to Fred Frith to canadian acts like Arcade Fire or Voivod. But of course, I could be wrong. It could be that very little outside the mainstream really surfaces in day to day life. But that would contradict what I see, read, & listen to on a daily basis. But then , I feel free to do so. Rap, Pop & Dance music may be found in a lot of places. But don't ask me for specifics, because I don't leave my radio to those stations. Nor any station for that matter. I have CDs, MP3s and LPs. On TV, I use my remote control to access the channels that interest me. And when my daughter or wife watch something that I don't care for , they allow me the option of not watching it, and doing something else. I also see & hear teenages that are into music from 2, 3, 4 decades ago. Just as a lot of us were. Some stay within limited musical genres. And maybe it's just that they don't know any better, but they really don't seem to spend too much time whining that their preferred music doesn't dominate radio or TV. Mostly because they also have LPs. CDs, and MP3s of their beloved musical acts. And they also use their TV remotes to watch TV shows, and DVDs that they like. Might be that they don't understand the torture they should feel. But then I could be wrong. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 20:01
First things first. KoS, you're avatar is... . I'm so distracted. (to thread author:) Second things Second, I'm 21, I was listening to Jimi Hendrix's Hey Baby, but then WMP switched to Video Killed the Radio Star (the girl is going O-o-oh). My various artists is quite diverse  So you see, this has been going on from before our time. The forces that made Prog (and other genres) are linked to the modernist tendencies that peaked in the late 60s, while music as a whole was brought in line with Postmodernist and pessimistic mass consciousness that you also see in all fields of art and social intercourse. That's the long and short and moderate length of it. Good news: various artists just picked Hawkwind's cover of Cymbaline (More, PF) |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 15 2009 at 20:08
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What you got is freedom of choice. what you want is freedom from choice (for you or the others?) ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: hitting_singularity2
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 08:36
What I want is freedom of choice for others who do not that know that there is actually GOOD music out there if they simply forget about listening to what is popular just to become popular. However I also think some people listen to some crappy underground bands just to get in with that crowd. What you really have to do is search the net for the music that you most enjoy... leading you to a group of peers where you don't have to pose. Hence why I am here 
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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 15:59
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I hope I die before I get old ------------- 
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 20:22
Listening to what is popular ? Maybe it became popular because a certain amount of people like it ? No that wouldn't work, now would it. After all, look how dominant classical music is. And just about every western civilization country has had its' public broadcaster play the bejesus out of the stuff until this new century. If I listen to Tool or VDGG just to be popular with people at PA, am i still a poser ? Yes, some people listen to some music to fit in with a group. Or is it that the group that they are part of listens to that music ? This does happen with prog , maybe ? AS for your last point - if you find music that you most enjoy on the radio or TV, why would you need to search the net ? I know people who listen to nothing else that XM/Sirius stations. At home & in the car. For What ? For the songs from artists that they don't hear anywhere else. AND IT"S NOT EVEN PROG MUSIC THAT THEY"RE LISTENING TO. Others load their MP3 players. With what ? Music they enjoy. Please, a music fanatic will enjoy spending time searching for lesser know treasures. And these "fans" include punk rockers, bluegrass, metal, NWOBHM, reggae, country & western, swing and many other genres. But most music listeners have ready access to the music they want (important point there - WANT) to hear. SO , get off the cross, someone else needs the wood. And if you're going to do anything, share your love of music, prog or other. Dismissing others' taste because they don't match yours, or because "their" music seems to be more visible in public, or your general culture is as bad as if someone dismissed yours for being prog. Get a life (so sayeth William Shatner, so sayeth the rest). Oh no, I'm forced to watch the weather. But I only like rain. Damn ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 16 2009 at 20:30
Loved Kids In The Hall, Second City TV (especially Farm Film Celebrity Blowup ), too.------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 14:47
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I'm only 16 years old, but as far as I know the majority of people have always liked to listen to simple music. I think the explanation for the simple music of today being crap is that we have more technologic possibilities, why should you put lots of effort in learning to play an instrument if you can make music on your computer? So, instead of pop music with some guitars and stuff we now get pop music with bleepy sounds and computerized beats, which easily changes from pop to dance or even worse. People of my age grow up with this music. They watch MTV that only plays the popular music, so they often don't know anything about real music, and when they do they won't listen to it because it isn't cool. In the end I don't really mind everybody is listening to crap like the Jonas Brothers and Justin Timberlake, I've got PF, Genesis and VDGG all for myself. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 15:07
I get the impression that Rimsky - Korsakov was the most diplomatic of the Mighty Handful, and the one who was the closest of the 5 MH to mainstream classical (romantic) music, but it's good to see that even he had to draw the line there
 Wonderful story, Iván, and I'm always surprised how much even in classical music composers were distancing themselves from each other, for artistic reasons.
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Posted By: hitting_singularity2
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 18:53
| sorry if i came off that negative, I was just trying to say that there is a lot more variety in music now with the internet and whatnot, and if people only listen to whats popular, maybe they never get to hear their favorite music! |
Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 20:18
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Oh another one of these "Old music is better than new" threads I don't really care what the general public is listening to or what is considered "good" and "bad" music. If I like it, I'll give it a listen. I don't really think it matters much as far as generation goes. If there is something new and modern and I like it, then I'll start listening to more of the artist or band. I don't automatically label something as terrible just because its new. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 20:26
I've listened to new music since I was a 2 year old kid tuning in my parents radio to hear music I liked, the new sound, the new style, the new beat. In the 50 years since then I've striven to listen to something new each week, each month, each year. Since 1971 a year has not passed when I haven't increased my collection with something new: a new artist or a new release from an old artist - a new sound, a new style, a new beat. I am never sated, ever hungry for something new to whet my appetite, to broaden my experience, to expand my appreciation for the art of making music with a new sound, a new style, a new beat. The day I stop searching for new music will be the day they nail the lid down on my coffin, but they'd better not hammer with any rhythm or I'll never rest.
To quote David Bowie: "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming"
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 21:01
OK think a minute about that last statement, how do you know you like it if you haven't given it a listen? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: June 18 2009 at 22:09
Oops, I meant I'll give it a listen first to see if I like it, and if interested THEN get into the rest of an artist's body of work. Sorry -------------
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