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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:07

Which floyd album would be best example?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:19
Originally posted by Massive Combine Massive Combine wrote:

Which floyd album would be best example?

Please don't say 'Dark side of the moon'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:32
yep dark side of the moon  no really it is their most influential album...
no great genius has existed without a touch of madness...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:39
except for George W. Bush right???????ha ha ha
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 22:01

Originally posted by JrKASperov JrKASperov wrote:

Probably some jazz band. Those guys know how to play. But they are too obscure to be known. 

I agree. There is this college jazz band in my area (the school name just escaped me, like that going to help) that has some of the most phenominal muscians in it; the tryouts are pretty rigourous. I think they are, but I forgot what school it is...

I think it's SMU....



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 22:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 01:27

The Beatles may have been the more influential... but EMERSON LAKE & PALMER

were the greatest band of all time !!!!!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 02:12
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

The Beatles might be successful and more than a little influential, but for me, these chaps:
are the greatest band of all time. That's right. Gentle Giant are the greatest band of all time. You heard me.

Why? Well, apart from all five being hugely adept musicians, capable of playing countless instruments to astonishingly high standards, their music pushed the boundaries of modern composition more effectively than any "modern classical" composer, avant garde nutter writing symphonies for choir and toaster or indeed any other rock band by drawing on more genres than you can shake a stick at, adapting them to their own unique sound, arranging and composing their work in a supremely rich and dense manner and all the while writing songs that YOU COULD SING ALONG TO. They could be catchy, quirky, powerful, humourous, heart-wrenchingly beautiful and downright surreal, but they always always always sounded like themselves. Okay, so they produced some dud albums. I'd maintain that so did the Beatles. They didn't have the money, the far-reaching success of the former, but artistically no one can top them. And what's music about - money or art?


I had thought of answering this band. Gentle Giant is one of the bands that indeed has the most artistic level on the entire progressive rock scope. Only Frank Zappa's band rivals these guys. So if I had to choose those, I would be torn up which one. Joren pointed to Frank Zappa, and rightly so, because [the yellow snow crystals...] there is no band as tight and musically powerful as his bands. Not even Gentle Giant. But Gentle Giant has the 'bandness' which I miss with FZ. His songs are a bit too static for me I guess. I'm sure Joren will rebuke me on that

To all of you Beatle loving fools out there. There is way more to a band than influence. Indeed, if we are talking about 'greatest' band than it is mostly about how the band is! in that regard, the beatles are a bunch of overrated childish ninkapoops. And saying that they were the first is nonsense, because jazz was kicking musical arse before that and the first arsekicking progband was the first arsekicking progband. They didn't have the beatles as example to arsekicking, because they don't.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 07:11
Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

QUOTE=Joren]
Originally posted by Unifaun Unifaun wrote:

Originally posted by Karnevil9 Karnevil9 wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:


What's so great about the Beatles? I think they are highly overrated. I think if one band deserves to be called the greatest ever, it should be the varying line-ups of Frank Zappa's "band".



Get real



maybe it's a younger generation thing, its harder to appreciate they effect they had on music.


I can understand they had a huge effect on music, but is the influence a band had the most important thing? I don't think so...


Yeah, I would say influence is very important. Influence is what has made legends out of musicians over the ages. From Mozart to Gershwin to Duke Ellington to Miles and to, yes, The Beatles. I'm not knocking Frank, he's one of my favs too. Great innovator and very unique and not to mention funny. But what separates The Beatles from everybody else was that while being innovative and audascious, they still were able to appeal to a massive audience unlike Frank (who did have a high regard for them too). Hell, back in '64 my grandmother liked them (except for the long hair).[[/QUOTE]

So the "massive audience" they appealed to is an important thing?

I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT THE MASSES THINK, I hink for myself, and I think the Beatles are overrated (although I DON'T deny the massive influence they had on pop music).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 09:48

There is actually this TF show in France "nouvelle Star" where they reduce from week to week 30.000 potential pop stars (everybody can be a star for 15 minutes) to the one and onlyNumber One. 

I think this is realy a mirror of our society, instead of pointing out individual particularities, you have to choose a "winner" who reflects the majority.  We have had a lot of polls, best this, best that but Yanns question :  Greatest band of all times reflects our state of mind in excellence, because it implies the existence of an absolute measure.

 My personal favourite would be Gentle Giant, but that was not the question.On the other hand I love filing music, (I am the guy in High Fidelity , I just bought new shelfs and I'am already elaborating a new classification system) I am a typical "product" of our society, always comparing, classifying : is this the best product I get for my money, are the new boxes worth the price, can I get a cheaper flight with this company...

So yes, The Beatles , I agree with Reed, what they have done at their time in their categorie is cool, but then ... is there  a  Greatest band of all times?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:29
no, there isn't
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:49
yes there is




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:54
Yes there isnt
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:58

No such thing as THE GREATEST BAND EVER...As for the Fab4 - Overrated and repetitively boring. They made 5-6 pretty good pop tunes and thats it. Funny nobody mentioned the ROLLING STONES ! (LOL)...Or the RAMONES for that matter.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 11:13
LED ZEPPELIN!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:20

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

no, there isn't

.. .unless, maybe Helen Reddy

"It was a singles bar, a Tuesday night
The moon was dim, the band was tight
They did the bump together

What a splendid sight,(Ren-nen-nen-nen) her teeth were white
The drinks were cheap (it was Ladies Nite)
He was glad that he met her

She was an office girl ("My name is Betty")
Her fav'rite group was HELEN REDDY
(They discussed the weather)" .F.Z.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:24
Taking into account consistent overall quality of output over 3 decades for me it has to be RUSH!!
"The Beautiful Ally Of Your Own Gravediggers"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:33
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

no, there isn't

.. .unless, maybe Helen Reddy

"It was a singles bar, a Tuesday night
The moon was dim, the band was tight
They did the bump together

What a splendid sight,(Ren-nen-nen-nen) her teeth were white
The drinks were cheap (it was Ladies Nite)
He was glad that he met her

She was an office girl ("My name is Betty")
Her fav'rite group was HELEN REDDY
(They discussed the weather)" .F.Z.

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baby DON'T YOU WANT A MAN SOMETIMES?"



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:56

PROG:  KING CRIMSON

HARD ROCK/CLASSIC ROCK: LED ZEPPELIN

METAL: BLACK SABBATH

 

but there are so many good bands...

  Beatles are great, they pioneered some prog ideas, but frankly,  their work is pop-rock, never prog.

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