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Massive Combine
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:07 |
Which floyd album would be best example?
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:19 |
Massive Combine wrote:
Which floyd album would be best example?
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Please don't say 'Dark side of the moon'
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Massive Combine
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:32 |
Meddle
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:32 |
yep dark side of the moon no really it is their most influential album...
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Massive Combine
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 21:39 |
except for George W. Bush right???????ha ha ha
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 22:01 |
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Probably some jazz band. Those guys know how to play. But they are too obscure to be known. |
I agree. There is this college jazz band in my area (the school name just escaped me, like that going to help) that has some of the most phenominal muscians in it; the tryouts are pretty rigourous. I think they are, but I forgot what school it is...
I think it's SMU....
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 22:03 |
WYWH
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 01:27 |
The Beatles may have been the more influential... but EMERSON LAKE & PALMER
were the greatest band of all time !!!!!
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THIS IS ELP
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 02:12 |
Trouserpress wrote:
The Beatles might be successful and more than a little influential, but for me, these chaps:
are the greatest band of all time. That's right. Gentle Giant are the greatest band of all time. You heard me.
Why? Well, apart from all five being hugely adept musicians, capable of
playing countless instruments to astonishingly high standards, their
music pushed the boundaries of modern composition more effectively than
any "modern classical" composer, avant garde nutter writing symphonies
for choir and toaster or indeed any other rock band by drawing on more
genres than you can shake a stick at, adapting them to their own unique
sound, arranging and composing their work in a supremely rich and dense
manner and all the while writing songs that YOU COULD SING ALONG TO.
They could be catchy, quirky, powerful, humourous, heart-wrenchingly
beautiful and downright surreal, but they always always always sounded
like themselves. Okay, so they produced some dud albums. I'd maintain
that so did the Beatles. They didn't have the money, the far-reaching
success of the former, but artistically no one can top them. And what's
music about - money or art?
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I had thought of answering this band. Gentle Giant is one of the bands
that indeed has the most artistic level on the entire progressive rock
scope. Only Frank Zappa's band rivals these guys. So if I had to choose
those, I would be torn up which one. Joren pointed to Frank Zappa, and
rightly so, because [the yellow snow crystals...] there is no band as
tight and musically powerful as his bands. Not even Gentle Giant. But
Gentle Giant has the 'bandness' which I miss with FZ. His songs are a
bit too static for me I guess. I'm sure Joren will rebuke me on that
To all of you Beatle loving fools out there. There is way more to a
band than influence. Indeed, if we are talking about 'greatest'
band than it is mostly about how the band is! in that
regard, the beatles are a bunch of overrated childish ninkapoops. And
saying that they were the first is nonsense, because jazz was kicking
musical arse before that and the first arsekicking progband was the
first arsekicking progband. They didn't have the beatles as example to
arsekicking, because they don't.
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Epic.
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 07:11 |
marktheshark wrote:
QUOTE=Joren]
Unifaun wrote:
Karnevil9 wrote:
Joren wrote:
What's so great about the Beatles? I think they are highly overrated. I think if one band deserves to be called the greatest ever, it should be the varying line-ups of Frank Zappa's "band".
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Get real
| maybe it's a younger generation thing, its harder to appreciate they effect they had on music. |
I can understand they had a huge effect on music, but is the influence a band had the most important thing? I don't think so...
| Yeah, I would say influence is very important. Influence is what has made legends out of musicians over the ages. From Mozart to Gershwin to Duke Ellington to Miles and to, yes, The Beatles. I'm not knocking Frank, he's one of my favs too. Great innovator and very unique and not to mention funny. But what separates The Beatles from everybody else was that while being innovative and audascious, they still were able to appeal to a massive audience unlike Frank (who did have a high regard for them too). Hell, back in '64 my grandmother liked them (except for the long hair).[[/QUOTE]
So the "massive audience" they appealed to is an important thing?
I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT THE MASSES THINK, I hink for myself, and I think the Beatles are overrated (although I DON'T deny the massive influence they had on pop music).
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 09:48 |
There is actually this TF show in France "nouvelle Star" where they reduce from week to week 30.000 potential pop stars (everybody can be a star for 15 minutes) to the one and onlyNumber One.
I think this is realy a mirror of our society, instead of pointing out individual particularities, you have to choose a "winner" who reflects the majority. We have had a lot of polls, best this, best that but Yanns question : Greatest band of all times reflects our state of mind in excellence, because it implies the existence of an absolute measure.
My personal favourite would be Gentle Giant, but that was not the question.On the other hand I love filing music, (I am the guy in High Fidelity , I just bought new shelfs and I'am already elaborating a new classification system) I am a typical "product" of our society, always comparing, classifying : is this the best product I get for my money, are the new boxes worth the price, can I get a cheaper flight with this company...
So yes, The Beatles , I agree with Reed, what they have done at their time in their categorie is cool, but then ... is there a Greatest band of all times?
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:29 |
no, there isn't
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JrKASperov
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:49 |
yes there is
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:54 |
Yes there isnt
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 10:58 |
No such thing as THE GREATEST BAND EVER...As for the Fab4 - Overrated and repetitively boring. They made 5-6 pretty good pop tunes and thats it. Funny nobody mentioned the ROLLING STONES ! (LOL)...Or the RAMONES for that matter.
Velvet would have gone for MARIAH CAREY ! ! !
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 11:13 |
LED ZEPPELIN!!!
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:20 |
Joren wrote:
no, there isn't |
.. .unless, maybe Helen Reddy
"It was a singles bar, a Tuesday night The moon was dim, the band was tight They did the bump together
What a splendid sight,(Ren-nen-nen-nen) her teeth were white The drinks were cheap (it was Ladies Nite) He was glad that he met her
She was an office girl ("My name is Betty") Her fav'rite group was HELEN REDDY (They discussed the weather)" .F.Z.
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:24 |
Taking into account consistent overall quality of output over 3 decades for me it has to be RUSH!!
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:33 |
Alucard wrote:
Joren wrote:
no, there isn't |
.. .unless, maybe Helen Reddy
"It was a singles bar, a Tuesday night The moon was dim, the band was tight They did the bump together
What a splendid sight,(Ren-nen-nen-nen) her teeth were white The drinks were cheap (it was Ladies Nite) He was glad that he met her
She was an office girl ("My name is Betty") Her fav'rite group was HELEN REDDY (They discussed the weather)" .F.Z.
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"a HONEY HONEY HEY -
baby don't you want a?
baby don't you want a?
baby DON'T YOU WANT A MAN SOMETIMES?"
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 15:56 |
PROG: KING CRIMSON
HARD ROCK/CLASSIC ROCK: LED ZEPPELIN
METAL: BLACK SABBATH
but there are so many good bands...
Beatles are great, they pioneered some prog ideas, but frankly, their work is pop-rock, never prog.
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