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WinterLight
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Posted: October 19 2008 at 16:19 | ||||||
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: October 19 2008 at 16:44 | ||||||
Now wait just a minute! Genesis had a nursery rhyme in their Nursery Cryme album, so I think you're on to something! Plenty of prog bands have non-prog influences, so I don't think going around and adding all these influences is going to do any good (remember when My Dying Bride was here? ). Mention the influences in the bio of the prog artist and let the reader do his or her own research. |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 19 2008 at 16:56 | ||||||
That's a part of it - the rest is in the other thread
We went into that in the other thread.
We went into that in the other thread.
Not just the sound - please read the other thread.
I agree about Diamond Head, BTW - always have done - but there are almost no "bands such as..." in Diamond Head's case - and they never made a fully Prog Metal album, more's the pity.
I don't think so. Haven't heard many prog elements in their music myself.
Really?
You should do a bit more than skim-reading it then.
Which bits do you disagree with?
You stick to what you said, I stick to what I said, everyone is happy - except that why Metallica are more Prog-related than those other bands (except, perhaps, Celtic Frost) has been reasoned through with no serious counter-argument in the other threads on this subject - so you need not just a better argument, but an argument.
I don't hold it against you - I can just see you haven't actually thought it through. Edited by Certif1ed - October 19 2008 at 17:01 |
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Angelo
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Posted: October 19 2008 at 17:32 | ||||||
Careful - they also had a shopping list in The Aisle of Plenty. Before you know it.... |
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Hawkwise
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Posted: October 19 2008 at 20:45 | ||||||
All of them Heavy Mental Rubbish
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 20 2008 at 02:03 | ||||||
This post actually made me laugh, for all the wrong reasons. I think if only because it completely broke up the serious arguments at exactly the right time. |
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Angelo
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Posted: October 20 2008 at 03:20 | ||||||
Would've made a nice 1000th post for Hawkwise - unfortunately it was his 999th.... Anyway, let's get back on topic here - this is a poll on Metallica albums, not another thread for discussing the validitiy of their inclusion. We already have one of those. |
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Posted: October 20 2008 at 12:23 | ||||||
mmm..... People are talking about this guy for all the wrong reasons... It's obvious that he can't listen to opposing arguments.... that's obvious. That he's even open to READ other people's arguments we have all the proof for the CONTRARY.... BUT, as for his future in PA, why hasn't somebody paid attention to the poor choice of words that this guy has? That word highlighted in red is oofensive from what little I know of the English language.......
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Logan
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Posted: October 20 2008 at 12:44 | ||||||
Of course Angelo already addressed his poor word choice.
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Angelo
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Posted: October 20 2008 at 16:00 | ||||||
So I did.
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 03:46 | ||||||
Hai guyz, letz find whuever influencd xMetallicax and add them 2 prog-related-related!! *snort* *chuckle*
And are there any other bands that Metallica supposedly influenced besides Dream Theater? I want band names and song titles or they don't exist. |
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WinterLight
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 05:56 | ||||||
Not sure why you've chosen this as a personal crusade. Nevertheless, I'll answer your question: Opeth. Both Akerfeldt and Lindgren have cited Metallica as a major influence. It's not musically obvious, of course (there is the case of Orchid, but the twin-guitar harmonies are probably due more directly to the Gothenburg sound than Metallica (although the latter surely influenced the former). |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 08:24 | ||||||
Well the list is incredibly long - Metallica had a huge range of influences, as did the early Prog bands - so this approach really isn't viable.
Besides, we don't add every band that influenced Classic Prog bands - we'd be up to our necks in folk, jazz and Classical artists and composers.
Again, the list is just too long to even begin - any band that uses the thrash technique and a complex approach to structuring (ie, most Prog Metal bands) can be said to be influenced by Metallica in some way, however distant.
The difficulty here is not finding a band influenced by Metallica, rather it's the other way around.
If a tree falls in a forest and you don't hear it, does that mean it doesn't make a sound?
*snort* *chuckle* Edited by Certif1ed - October 21 2008 at 08:25 |
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 16:02 | ||||||
Ohhhhhhhhh, I get it! They have that sort of intangible yet omnipresent influence that can't be hammered-down exactly. I understand now.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 16:11 | ||||||
can we go back to the topic??? |
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 17:17 | ||||||
(also Nevermore in every album but they are not in PA) |
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Visitor13
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Posted: October 21 2008 at 17:30 | ||||||
Is this a ploy to lure someone into spewing forth a whole list of Progarchives' Dream Theater clones just so that you can then laugh at them for listening to Dream Theater clones? |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 02:38 | ||||||
It's completely tangible, as a matter of fact - so no, you don't understand!
Try again - and this time, use those flappy things either side of your head, and please try to connect it to the squidgy stuff that lies between them
When I'm having so much fun? Why? Edited by Certif1ed - October 22 2008 at 02:41 |
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 03:30 | ||||||
Edited by Avantgardehead - October 24 2008 at 15:26 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 22 2008 at 03:50 | ||||||
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Edited by HughesJB4 - October 22 2008 at 04:01 |
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