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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 07:02 |
Have you got a pic of the body Trademark has?
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 12:56 |
Yeah I do, I must admit I was expecting something paler but it's still a really nice body and the the grain is excellent. My initial thoughts for a bloodwood/pau ferro neck for this body are definitely not suitable as I don't think the colour of the bloodwood would go well with that finish.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: April 25 2008 at 03:32 |
Any progress lately?
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: April 25 2008 at 14:13 |
Not got the new body, I'm still waiting for Trademark to come back with a price for it. However I have made some choices for the new neck:
All rosewood Jumbo frets (6150s IIRC) preinstalled graphite nut (saves me a bit of hassle) Gibson style neck size.
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A B Negative
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Posted: April 27 2008 at 06:09 |
All rosewood? Neck and fretboard? Sounds good but a bit expensive.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: April 27 2008 at 08:39 |
An unfinished all rosewood neck is only $15 or so more expensive than a finished maple/rosewood neck plus rosewood doesn't need a finish. In my opinion the extra cost is worth it just for the look of the neck.
My other thoughts for woods are Bubinga, Goncalo Alves or Wenge with a rosewood board which would cost the same as the all rosewood neck or upgrading to a Pau Ferro board which would add $10 to the final price but my current preference is the all rosewood option. However everything could change once I get the body.
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A B Negative
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Posted: April 28 2008 at 10:35 |
I thought all-rosewood would be much more expensive!
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: April 28 2008 at 13:00 |
It's 'only' Indian Rosewood which is comparatively cheap (for an exotic wood), if it were all Brazilian Rosewood then it would be very expensive, and even if I could afford a Brazilian Rosewood neck Warmoth don't export them.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: April 29 2008 at 22:56 |
N Ellingworth wrote:
Not got the new body, I'm still waiting for Trademark to come back with a price for it. However I have made some choices for the new neck:
All rosewood Jumbo frets (6150s IIRC) preinstalled graphite nut (saves me a bit of hassle) Gibson style neck size.
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That's a pretty good choice there, especially the graphite nut, those last so long
If you haven't already made the definite choice of the neck, I can recommend to you 6105 frets. They are taller and slightly narrower than 6150s, and the taller the frets you have the less pressure you have to put on the strings to hold them down and after a while you play more relaxed, faster, cleaner, and plus better vibrato control.
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rileydog22
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Posted: April 29 2008 at 23:32 |
^Wouldn't you be able to get the same effect by lowering the action of the guitar?
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: April 30 2008 at 02:46 |
rileydog22 wrote:
^Wouldn't you be able to get the same effect by lowering the action of the guitar? |
It's not that simple in all cases. You have to take into account fretsize and fretboard radius as to how low your action can go and how much pressure you need to put on the strings to depress them.
Having taller frets forces you to develop a lighter touch as to not push the strings out of correct intonation as you play them, so you learn to depress more lightly on the strings. You can have a guitar with a 16 inch radius, which allows an extremely low action, but the fact is you will be able to play faster on a guitar with a 16 inch radius with tall frets than a 16inch radius axe that has small frets, purely because your fingers are touching less wood each time, and this is not really related to the action of the guitar anyway. Ultimately the easiest action would be achieved by the largest radius you can get and easier playability aided by bigger frets.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 30 2008 at 02:49 |
^ agreed. Tall frets also make bending strings much easier if you use a very low action, they're essentially a less extreme version of scalloped fretboards.
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: April 30 2008 at 03:36 |
The reason I'm going for the 6150s (although I will consider the 6105s) is that I prefer the feel of Gibson style frets, father than the traditional Fender style. String bending I don't really tend to do much of so as long as small bends are easy I'm not really bothered, plus I'm using a Wilkinson trem so for larger changes in pitch I've got that.
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:07 |
Has it really been 2 months since I last updated this thread? Anyway I'm glad to say that I finally have the new body that I bought from Trademark, and it's a really nice one too. Now I just need to wait for my university to give me the bursary they owe me and I can order the neck.
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:14 |
It looks great
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mr70s
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Posted: August 13 2008 at 20:01 |
Very nice !
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Posted: August 13 2008 at 21:37 |
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N Ellingworth
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 12:02 |
A small update for everyone, in a few weeks I should be in a position to finally order the neck to complete this project, I'm still not sure exactly what woods, fret size etc that I'm going to go for but I'm definitely going to be getting a neck that's not normal on a strat. I would have ordered the neck earlier but I've had a few financial issues in the past couple of months.
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mr70s
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 16:32 |
Why the resistance to a 'normal' Strat neck ?
Just thinking, the 50's style deep V one piece Strat neck can hardly be called normal ! I think it's the best for tone, although you do have to adapt your left hand to suit. It encourages thumb over the top playing. I fitted mine with jumbo frets, and it has a fairly low action. The fretboard radius is a relatively small 7.25 inch, so you will never get a super low shredding action as notes would choke when bending.
To be honest, that classy body needs a classy neck, and I would definitely go with one of the standard neck
options.
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Trademark
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 19:05 |
Roye Albrighton (for whom I originally built that body) asked for a flame maple/rosewood neck with no inlay and a traditional Fender shape for the headstock. Roye got busy with touring before the neck was completely finished and sort of lost interest in getting it all done. It did look good without the inlay dots though (side dots only). That body color just cries out for a nice dark rosewood fretboard. Roy wanted a black pickguard and gold hardware with it. i think the parts Nick used look better than the mock-up I did with the other parts. Nice job Nick!
Edited by Trademark - August 14 2008 at 19:06
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