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moonchild 
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Joined: May 15 2004 Status: Offline Points: 146 |
 Posted: May 18 2004 at 17:38 |
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King Crimson > In the Court of the Crimson King. By the way Joren, Freak Out! has a copyright date of 1965 check your copy. |
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In the Wake of Poseidon
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Joren
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 07 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 6667 |
Posted: May 19 2004 at 05:19 |
You shouldn't look at the COPYRIGHT DATE. It was indeed RECORDED in 1965, but RELEASED in 1966. No-one will hear your music if you don't release it! Edited by Joren |
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Velvetclown
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Posted: May 19 2004 at 05:25 |
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Right you are Joren
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Joren
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Posted: May 19 2004 at 16:29 |
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alonsin
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Joined: May 10 2004 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 8 |
Posted: May 20 2004 at 15:49 |
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Some of the pionners Zappa, Pink Floyd, Soft Machine, King Crimson, Le Orme, Yes, Jetro Tull, Gong... some great post.. al these have recorded some LPs pre 1970, specially Zappa.. is worth recalling that "Free Jazz" and "Fusion Jazz", in the early 60's and trough the 70's were a great influence. (coleman, coltrane, davis, wheather report...)
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...Begin with the posible and move towards the imposible
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ROCK GOD
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Joined: May 20 2004 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 41 |
Posted: May 28 2004 at 16:31 |
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it would have to be ither pink floyd or the original nirvana
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CL350K4
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Posted: May 31 2004 at 11:57 |
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Personally, I think the honor goes to Lt. Uhura for "Beyond Antares"...
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raleighgranprix
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Posted: May 31 2004 at 14:51 |
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From the first 2 pages, of this discussion, if Seargent Pepper's is stated; then, surprise no one mentioned this, what about the supposedly heavy influence, you have of the Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" (isn't that the name), that that release has, as stated by Sir Paul McCartney???
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"You well heeled big wheel, ha ha, charade you are ... and do you feel abused, down in the pig mine, you're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry ......- PF
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Ghostwriter
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Posted: May 31 2004 at 21:04 |
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I haven't read all the posts. (my bad) If someone has already posted this band I apologize. I would consider the first progresive rock band. "The Pretty Things" - their LP "Emotions" laid the foundation Next would be "The Nice", "Procol Harum, or "Soft Machine". IMHO |
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"and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun."
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CL350K4
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Posted: June 01 2004 at 20:18 |
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True -- but if you want to go there, Brian Wilson said he was influenced by "Rubber Soul" in creating "Pet Sounds". |
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raleighgranprix
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Posted: June 02 2004 at 12:55 |
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And as mentioned, Byrds/Dylan influence on Rubber Soul: " http://www.reversephonedirectory.com/products/?item_id=B0000 02UAO&search_type=AsinSearch&locale=us " A link, only to state what is widely accepted. Not that I would care to state these facts, it is only fair in doing so. Edited by raleighgranprix |
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"You well heeled big wheel, ha ha, charade you are ... and do you feel abused, down in the pig mine, you're nearly a laugh but you're really a cry ......- PF
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Dick Heath
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Posted: June 04 2004 at 07:13 |
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Why isn't Bob Dylan first electric album counted as progressive rock i.e. folk merged with electrified rock, (it should have met the looser demands of the 'progressive music' definition - cf Fairport Convention or Magna Carta - but oddly nobody seemed to even look in that direction because Mr Zimmerman might have been sacrosanct)?
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Certif1ed
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Posted: June 04 2004 at 09:33 |
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But wouldn't you have to consider the Byrds as prog first, then - since I believe that a main driving factor in Mr Z "going electric" was the fact that they (and others) were making lots of money by electrifying his songs? Simon and Garfunkel weren't far behind Dylan with the electrification of folk music either. Maybe "8 Miles High" was not only the first identifiable work of psychedelia, but also the first identifiable work of prog? Dylan's "electro-folk" move was also influenced by the British Invasion - the Animals ("House of the Rising Sun") and, of course, the Beatles, who already had a kind of folk/rock sound, even on "Please Please Me". ...but the Beatles aren't prog... are they...? Edited by Certif1ed |
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raleighgranprix
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Posted: June 04 2004 at 12:20 |
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You are absolutely correct; as for Dylan, well, I don't wish to assign more importance than may be warranted, but he is starting to influence all of "rock" in that sense, a very broad influence, so where are the lines drawn?
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Mysterio
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Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 37 |
Posted: June 09 2004 at 13:10 |
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I think the first progressive rock was definitely Gustav Holst's
The Planets. I mean, just look at all the brass he uses. Each of the seven movements were inventive and original (and Mars is in 5/4!), and Neptune is extremely... undescribable. Everyone should keep in mind that at one point, everyone was inspired by someone else. The statement above isn't really all that truthful, because Holst was only composing in the 19th Century; he was influenced perhaps by Stravinsky, who was influenced by Prokofiev.... the list is endless. Someone out there was influenced by classical music, and a long chain of events led to ingenious things like prog rock and whatever you can call Frank Zappa, and cringe-inducing things like "numetal" and rap. -M |
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"YOU SLEPT WITH MY WIFE!?"
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: July 31 2006 at 05:01 |
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moonchild wrote:
Almost everybody mentions the releasedate instead of the recording date. Freak Out! - 1966. It says 1966 on both the official Zappa website AND the progarchives. 
You wouldn't make a good history teacher, 