Did Punk really kill prog all that much?

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Zweck Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 234	Posted: February 03 2006 at 17:42
	Le rocher: You are as of now my favorite person on this forum, that is to say I think Grim Skunk might grow on me.

The Rock Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 30 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 746	Posted: February 03 2006 at 17:56
	Well thanks a lot!!! I'm honnoured!Enjoy Grim Skunk! Merci.
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ken4musiq Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 446	Posted: February 03 2006 at 23:20
	For those who think that prog and punk can't mesh,think twice. Canadian band(from Quebec) Grim Skunk masterfully blended both genres on their eponymus album released in 1994.>> The other more obvious example is Radiohead.

The Rock Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 30 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 746	Posted: February 03 2006 at 23:31
	With all due respect,Radiohead's punk leanings and ''prog'' ingredients were'nt really spliced together.On Grim Skunk you can hear punk,metal,classical and prog within the same song!!! Whereas Radiohead had their punk/alternative early era then came OK Computer and the Floyd influenced sound.Not much punk on Ok Computer. Anyway,I like both bands.
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ken4musiq Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 446	Posted: February 04 2006 at 00:10
	Whereas Radiohead had their punk/alternative early era then came OK Computer and the Floyd influenced sound.Not much punk on Ok Computer.>> Paranoid Android that part before the 7/8. 2+2=5 has that ambient guitar opening then goes into the Johnny Lydon bit. Edited by ken4musiq

ken4musiq Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 446	Posted: February 04 2006 at 02:35
	What ? Billy Joel huh ?>>> Billy Joel was in a band called The Hassels in 1967. They recorded two albums of punk rock in a Voidoids style. One song Tough Guy, starts out "He's a tough guy. He's a punk." Then in 1970 Joel had a band called Attila that was a trio with Hammond, bass and drums. Very Nice. They did a song called Brain Intrusion, I think that was the name; it starts off quoting Bernstein and is very influenced by Emerson's version of Blue Rondo a la Turk. Then in 71, he formed Cold Spring Harbor. They put out one album. It wasn't until he signed with Columbia that he became famous. The connection of Punk rock to late 1960s Long Island is interesting and I should probably firther research it before eveyone is too old to remember. I know nobody cares; but being from Long Island, it is interesting to know that we created something that shook the world.

Antennas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: February 01 2006 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 331	Posted: February 04 2006 at 17:41
	Hope you don't mind me adding my opinion... and that is, that *Punk didn't kill Prog at all. Moreover, PROG is alive and kicking* nowadays like it hasn't been in decades!** What I rather see is Prog being "killed" by so-called music lovers who still whine and moan about Genesis and Yes not being like they were in the 1970's anymore and such... people refusing to come out and visit a band's concert if that band isn't yet well-known... people not having investigated any NEW bands since 1978 and so on. Oh, and don't get me started on those so-called Tribute Bands, which I tend to consider the death of true progressiveness ! Instead, I see the modern Prog Scene as a very healthy one - Prog Metal is very, very popular nowadays, for instance, but also note the gazillions of young bands having incorporated a massive influence from the 1970's bands - Porcupine Tree, Anathema, The Flower Kings, Riverside (who I've seen performing in a tiny pub some three months ago...!), Anekdoten, even the aforementioned Radiohead - the list is endless. So, thinking "Punk killed Prog" is waaaayyyy too much honour to Punk!
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bhikkhu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: A² Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109	Posted: May 27 2006 at 15:40
	I'm glad to see that most people don't really believe that punk killed prog. I had been seeing this statement quite a bit, and it baffled me. I was going to start my own thread, until I found this. My theory is the change in radio. Someone else alluded to this, but it has not been fully investigated. In the late '70s, a major shift started to happen (in the U.S., I can't speak for the U.K.). A.M. radio was on its way out, and "mainsteam" formats were moving to F.M. This meant that the formerly "underground" F.M. formats were being moved out. By the '80s, even the AOR formats were being killed off. Classic Rock formats held some promise, but they ended up just playing the songs that had already gotten immense airplay. When I was a teenager, I was fortunate to have a station that was still playing Genesis, Tull, Yes, etc. They even played whole albums late at night (and this was in western Michigan). They also played some of the emerging "new" music, such as Talking Heads, and The B52's. But it had also changed by the mid '80s. Not only was prog disappearing, but they also weren't gutsy enough to play punk, or any of the more innovative new bands. So I see the cause as the death of progressive radio programming.
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