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floydaholic 
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 Posted: October 28 2005 at 21:01 |
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The best song to introduce people to prog would be Roundabout I think. It has got that catchy bassline and some catchy vocals too. The song that most defines the genre is 21st Century Schizoid man.
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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Mr_Upside_Down
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 21:53 |
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Spock's Beard - At the End of the Day
I cannot believe this has not been mentioned yet!
For my money, this is the quintessential prog song - it has a bit of
everything, and not too much of anything... which is exactly what
*good* prog is all about.
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King of Loss
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Posted: October 28 2005 at 21:58 |
A good example of a song that defines all quadrants of Prog, I would have to say Dream Theater- Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. It isn't just Prog Metal, but also has parts where it directly relates to other Prog artists.
Great song too by the way! 
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 00:52 |
 OT Räihälä wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
- Must be classical influenced
- Must have drastic changes
- Must have virtuoso performances
- Must be Original
- Better if an epic.
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That's Igor Stravinsky's Rite of Spring or Firebird then.
Oh, btw, does it have to be "rock"..? 
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LOL  Good point, except that I said Classical Influenced and Stravinsly is Classical Modern,
If somebody asks me what is Progressive ROCK, I should assume the Rock part is very clear in the name of the genre, everybody knows what Rock is, the normal doubt is in the word Progressive.
Do you want me to be more explicit?
Iván
BTW: Stravinsky is a great Prog' influence, his dramatic and unexpected variations are simply the closest Classical Music can get to Prog Rock.
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Cygnus
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 06:55 |
- Starless
- Close to the Edge
- Supper's Ready
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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 07:24 |
Five suggestions, in no particular order:
- "Suppers ready"
- "Close to the Edge"
- "Thick as a Brick"
- "A Plague of the Lighthouse Keepers"
- "The Valentyne Suite"
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"He's a man of the past and one of the present"
PETER HAMMILL
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Martin.W
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 12:17 |
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Tracks by all the usual suspect have been mentioned - KC, Floyd, DT, Genesis, Yes, Rush, ELP, Gentle Giant et al - so just to be an awkward so & so, why not compile THE DEFINITIVE PROG SAMPLER/INTRO...who knows where this might lead???
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Mart, the Old Progger is Listening to:
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Roy Harper - Stormcock
Yes - Topographic Oceans
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Steve Hillage - L
Hawkwind - 1st LP
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 29 2005 at 17:29 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
LOL Good point, except that I said Classical Influenced and Stravinsly is Classical Modern
So you mean bands can only be influenced by composers from 1730-1820?
Where does that leave Gentle Giant?
BTW: Stravinsky is a great Prog' influence, his dramatic and unexpected variations are simply the closest Classical Music can get to Prog Rock.
Amen to that - but I think Debussy and Dvorak were close too, and Messiaen went several stages further. Stravinsky did rock more, though - the elaborate time changes in "Le Sacre du Printemps" are stunning, and I love that hard-hitting bar in 11/4...
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xhamasaki
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Posted: October 30 2005 at 03:41 |
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Soulman
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:43 |
Mr_Upside_Down wrote:
Spock's Beard - At the End of the Day
I cannot believe this has not been mentioned yet!
For my money, this is the quintessential prog song - it has a bit of
everything, and not too much of anything... which is exactly what
*good* prog is all about.
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Oh come on, if you're going to pick a Spock's Beard Song that defines the genre of prog, you could've picked a better one  .
How about the Good Don't Last!...well then again, I might agree with
you. That song does seem to mix alot of seperate genres into one song.
The most appealing prog song ever! 
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con safo
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:46 |
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First and foremost, i have to say 21st Century Schizoid Man
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Suppers Ready
Close To The Edge
A Plague Of Lighthouse keepers
...pretty much the basics
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Soulman
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:50 |
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^^^
Why 21st Century Schizoid Man? That song is sooo bluesy and that's not even what prog has evolved into.
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con safo
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:53 |
Soulman wrote:
^^^
Why 21st Century Schizoid Man? That song is sooo bluesy and that's not even what prog has evolved into.
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The chorus is bluesy maybe but the instrumental in the middle is pure prog! And honestly the song is MUCH more jazzy than it is blues, but undoubtedly prog!
Edited by con safo
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Soulman
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:54 |
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Iono I tend to disagree. The middle part is just like a fast
swing/blues riff. The only thing that's proggy about that song is the
atmospheric beginning and crashing end.
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con safo
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:58 |
Soulman wrote:
Iono I tend to disagree. The middle part is just like a fast
swing/blues riff. The only thing that's proggy about that song is the
atmospheric beginning and crashing end.
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So the noises at the beggining are prog but the instrumental section is not .. ? I dont register. 
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JayDee
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:59 |
Soulman wrote:
Iono I tend to disagree. The middle part is just like a fast swing/blues riff. The only thing that's proggy about that song is the atmospheric beginning and crashing end. |
...... sounds a little hippie to me..........
but its prog definitely
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AngleofRepose
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:09 |
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Supper's Ready
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:59 |
Certif1ed wrote:
ivan_2068 wrote:
LOL Good point, except that I said Classical Influenced and Stravinsly is Classical Modern
So you mean bands can only be influenced by composers from 1730-1820?
No Cert, Classical is a wide term, there's Clasical Baroque, Classical Romantic, Classical Modern, etc. You're confusing classical with Classic Period. When I say Classical I'm talking about Medieval/Gothic, Renaisance, Baroque, Classic Period, Romantic and Modern Classical.
BTW: Classical modern doesn't start in 1730, that's CLASSIC period, more exactly 1750 - 1830, in 1830 starts Romantic and Modern Classical starts in 1900 Aprox.
Where does that leave Gentle Giant?
Gentle Giant has influences that come from Medieval (The Trouvadore style of the vocals is very evident) plus Baroque and Classic (Not the same as classical) also uses some influence of Romantic and Modern complex structures.
BTW: Stravinsky is a great Prog' influence, his dramatic and unexpected variations are simply the closest Classical Music can get to Prog Rock.
Amen to that - but I think Debussy and Dvorak were close too, and Messiaen went several stages further. Stravinsky did rock more, though - the elaborate time changes in "Le Sacre du Printemps" are stunning, and I love that hard-hitting bar in 11/4...
And Mussorgski, Cui, Janacek, Borodin, Tchaikovsky, etc etc etc.
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 02:42 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Genesis - Firth of Fifth?
It has both electronic and acoustic instruments, quiet and loud passages, great singing (soft and more aggressive) and great instrumental playing, it's lyrical content is surrealistic, it showcases fabulous group interaction but also wonderful solos (Banks & Hackett), it's a stretched out song with different passages but with a unifying theme...
What do you think?
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Good choice. It was one of my introductions to prog.
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Badabec
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 12:32 |
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I don't think there is any song that could be able to define prog-rock.
But in general the most experimental (and in my opinion most
progressive) bands I have ever heard are Gentle Giant and ELP.
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