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suitkees
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Additional suggestions... Mila: I quite like this groovy track of Hidden Orchestra, really great listen. If I remember well, Lewian also put this act forward in one of these IA-polls, a long while ago - I may have to explore their music more to get to know them better... Nick: I'm one of those "who like prog but are not at all interested if it's trying too hard to emulate the classic symphonic era of
the '70s", as you say in your review, but this track of Cronofonia sounds fresh and modern enough to draw my attention! I also like the stance and approach of Henika, but somehow the computer generated accompaniment (drums, notably) put me off a bit. A pity, because I like how she reworks those bird songs. There is definitely a great soundscape quality in the track by Pie Are Squared, but it remains slightly too much on the meditative side for me. I prefer Cronofonia of these.
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nick_h_nz
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^ I get what you are saying with Henika, so possibly I would have been better putting forward another track, that was less computer generated.
“Birdie Sings the Blues” - https://youtu.be/vn4uYqdg3UQ …or, possibly my favourite song on the album…. “Forest Nocturne” - https://youtu.be/ivyth4COJOI Forest Nocturne features the various calls of Aotearoa’s native owl, the ruru (Māori name) / Morepork (Pākeha name). I love it! 🦉🥰 |
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Snicolette
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First thoughts through the remainder, plus an addition:
Mila: Hidden Orchestra “Wandering” Some
old recorded radio DJ (?) voice, then drums and bass and whirrs (whirrs sound a
lot like a big gong, only repeating and down in the mix, kind of behind
everything else) and a high-pitched
something, then keyboards with a repeating melody. I think it moves on to guitars repeating but
could also be done on keys. This one has
a fair sense of forward motion. Ends a
bit abruptly after a reprise of the first part.
Fun to watch the live one, to see how they recreate it live. Nick: Birds
and the morning, just go together.
Imagine a world without birdsong.
It would be a sad thing, indeed.
May we never see that day dawn. Cronofonia “Dawn (reprise)” Shakuhachi type flute, then moves into more
orchestral territory. I have a feeling
I’m going to like this. Yep, electric
guitar softly comes in, then drums and the rest of the band. Flute swirls in and around as the band
steadily plays along. Surprised by a
male vocalist, then a violin (and perhaps more strings). Plenty of dynamics in the piece, as it falls
back to minimal, rises again in a crescendo, then moves, as you’d stated, into
pure birdsong for over a full minute. Lovely. Henika “Dawn Chorus” This one starts the opposite way, with birds
at the fore, and indeed, throughout.
Kind of a quirky, lilting female vocalist, this is a style that is
enjoying a lot of popularity right now.
She uses herself in chorus also, as well as the birds, creating her own
dawn chorus. Upbeat, like a promising
morning. Henika’s video of dawn chorus
on Tiritiri Matangi Island: This will
have to wait and play off and on as I have time, I’m assuming out of
competition. I do like to have natural
background sounds esp at this time of year, windows closed on the West Coast of
the US for the most part. Pie Are
Squared “Heard From a Distance”
Underpinning electronic wash sound, then another type of wash, gentle,
lapping waves. The changing sounds are
quite subtle, but do build in intensity and volume, very slowly. A sound is added that at first reminds me of
conch sounds, but resolves into more of an electric guitar/violin sort of
sustain. This becomes almost sonar-like,
then, fairly abruptly, ends. Henika Extras: “Birdie Sings The Blues” Birds start, then plucked double bass. Here she is more sultry, much more of a
blues/jazz kind of vocal. Slide guitar
comes in, making it more Delta/folky.
This one I do prefer, to the first one of hers. Let’s see how the final one goes. “Forest Nocturne” This sounds more like where I live, in
summer. Twin Peaks country, lol, with
those fingersnaps. More of the sultry
vocal, with some wild choral ornamentation and some weeeeeeee sorts of
sounds. A bit more quirky jazz
here. Faves here were Chronofonia and
Birdie Sings The Blues. |
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suitkees
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^ I listened to the whole album just now; quite nice! A wide variety of styles (blues, jazz, rap...) grounded in an electro-pop sound and a nice work on the bird songs. On some tracks those machine generated (or maybe better: triggered) drum and percussion sounds fit in quite well, like on The Future of the Species and Gotta Run... on others they give a bit too much of a self produced quality to the music. Still a very pleasant listen overall and a notable effort to use bird songs in this way! Will buy the album, also to support the conservation efforts over there...
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nick_h_nz
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I’ll be honest. My initial reason for buying the album was definitely because I knew all proceeds were going to conservation. I liked what I heard, but I wouldn’t say I loved it. But knowing that taking a chance on the album was going to do some good regardless of how much I might end up liking it did certainly sway my decision making. Repeated listens had the album grow on me to such an extent that it will easily make my end-of-year list if I ever make one. (Obviously not for PA, and a lot of my favourite albums every year will never appear in PA! 😄) Edited by nick_h_nz - January 16 2022 at 08:59 |
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Cristi
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We have a troll voting here.
This poll is taking too long (I am a jerk, I know). It's 12 days old and still no final nominations deadline. Voting? And then we have the worst case of trolling. Someone surely likes to mock our efforts here. |
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nick_h_nz
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^ I don’t think it’s a troll. I think it’s someone resetting the scores to zero (or, rather, to one), because of the two previous votes.
Has everyone submitted all they want to? If so, then by all means let me know the nominated tracks (some have already done so), and I can enter them in the poll, and we can commence voting! [EDIT] I always find that the polls don’t usually give me enough time, so I’m not worried about how long this is taking, so long as people are still participating. It probably does feel longer to you, simply because you’ve been sitting this one out, until now. If this were not at the beginning of the year, I would be far more inclined to speed things up, but (perhaps not for you) a lot of people find this a very busy time of the year, and so I let it run on a little longer than I probably would have otherwise. The new poll can begin as soon as nominations are up, as we don’t need to wait for people to vote in my opinion. Edited by nick_h_nz - January 16 2022 at 09:22 |
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Cristi
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Is Pink Floyd's Cirrus Minor suitable here?
I would like to nominate it if I may. I'll post the video if that's ok.
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nick_h_nz
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^Go for it! The Pink Floyd discography is full of field recordings, and they were the first band to make me aware of how much field recordings can add to a song, so it was almost a shame that they haven’t been posted here.
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Cristi
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^ ok then, my nomination
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Snicolette
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And adding Cristi's:
Cristi: Pink Floyd “Cirrus Minor” Even
though I know most of Pink Floyd’s music, this one I am not familiar with,
perhaps because of how it was released.
I love this era of Floyd. The piece
begins with birdsong, then PF-style eerie vocals and sustained notes on
organ. Guitar is kind of to the back,
and mostly to bolster the vocal. The
birds chirp up from time to time, as the organ plays solo. Flourishy washy sounds enter the mix. Little bits of guitar or? crop up, sounds
almost like effected keys after a moment, however. Ends in birdsong. Thank you.
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Jaketejas
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We once used electricity-static-like sounding crashes to some effectiveness in breaking up a solo section. The transition was driving us bananas, but my friend solved it with 2 crashes. Somehow, it was the perfect fit. Since then, my friend has also employed earthquakes, coin drops, thunder, and other sound effects … but I have a special place in my heart for electricity-static-like sounding crashes.
It is fun trying to emulate natural sounds on typical instruments, which is something different. I mentioned in another post how I like how Robert Fripp of KC makes a guitar pattern that reminds me of water dripping off of a cavern wall. That is the opening to Fracture. The most notable guitarist for making animal sounds might be Adrian Belew, formerly of KC. I especially like how he used them in his solo albums. |
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nick_h_nz
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Sometimes it’s impossible to tell the difference between natural and instrument. Some of the taonga pūoro (traditional instruments of Māori New Zealanders) are made to perfectly replicate native birdsong. In my review of Ruby Solly’s Pōneke, I mistakenly assumed all the birdsong was from the many field recordings Ruby used in the creation of her aural tribute to Pōneke. Actually, it was all from taonga pūoro. Take a listen to this album, and you’ll hear what I mean: The bird like taonga pūoro appropriately reappear in last year’s Bird Like Men - the debut album from Ruby’s new group. Two other members of the group are Ariana Tikao and Al Fraser, whose music I have shared in a previous interactive poll. |
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Jaketejas
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That’s really neat! Very organic sounding, indeed. There is a nice little demonstration of Maori instruments at this link for anyone who is interested. I love listening to world music to find and incorporate new ideas. Maori instruments I’ve tried some of the Garritan plug-ins for emulating world instruments, but I find that it is often difficult to get a human-like produced natural sound. Sometimes, one can get close but it is difficult to beat the organic sound of a person playing real instruments … when you desire an instrument that produces sound waves in the 3 traditional manners: vibrating string, vibrating air column, or vibrating membrane. Often, I also enjoy electronic sounds, but that is for a cosmic futuristic sound rather than a natural sound (although there are also sounds that seem both natural and futuristic …). |
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Lewian
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I'll nominate Zarrin by Sohrab.
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nick_h_nz
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If everyone can check that I have their nomination, and the correct nomination, then we can begin voting!
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Snicolette
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My nomination is GRICE, I feel it is most suited to the category of my choices and hopefully has gained them some more attention.
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I hadn't decided but am good with Casino Trem as my nomination.
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suitkees
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So, I'll start off voting. Mine go to: - Grice - Sohrab - Hidden Orchestra (it was between them and Cronofonia for my third vote...) |
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Snicolette
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Very happy you enjoyed Grice!
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