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Interactive Poll XXVI: The Dreadful Decade |
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Snicolette 
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Mike, yours didn't work for me, is this the same one? |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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rushfan4
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Posted: February 18 2021 at 19:06 |
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suitkees
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 06:40 |
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^ Oh, silly me... I read Halloween and I thought Helloween. It must be something pavlovian...  So you did some "contact tracing"... Very much in vogue these times.
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
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Cristi
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 08:32 |
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there are a few bands named Halloween, that's why the Germans called themselves HElloween. I know there was a French heavy metal band named Halloween.
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TCat
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:06 |
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Nickie, That one works great. If anyone else can't use the one I posted, then use this one. Thanks Nickie!!!!!!
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dr wu23
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:41 |
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A few things I listened to back in the day..still a fan of all of them...
Edited by dr wu23 - February 19 2021 at 13:02 |
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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suitkees
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:52 |
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^ The third one doesn't show up for me. What's the artist/band and title? I will try to find a working alternative...
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dr wu23
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 13:04 |
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Fixed it...Graham Parker..Get Started Start A fire
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suitkees
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 13:24 |
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 Works! Thanks.
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Snicolette
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 15:32 |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Lewian
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 17:30 |
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I'm listening my way through the suggestions (EBN/OZN have emerged as a surprise favourite, oh, and Iets van Gevoel - the Phew track is also great but I have that album). Let's collect final nominations until end Sunday; I'd like to have the list of things to vote on together end of Monday at the latest.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 17:56 |
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The 1980's (third part) 1984, in Italy, was still a year full of albums by songwriters, melodic groups like Pooh, and pop groups. No big news. At the level of foreign singers, it was the year of Sade (music that interested me only for the beauty of the singer) and Steve Wonder (I just called to say I love You), plus Paul Young, Queen, Wham, Lionel Richie, all singers who were in the charts with commercial 45s that were very easy listening (and musically bad), and Bronski Beat with Smalltown Boy, I liked that song. Thinking about that year, there were Phil Collins with Against All Odds and Talk Talk with It's my life album (both good commercial music), and Yes' 90125, a wonderful album, but I didn't notice them at the time. The main event for me was the first tape. A friend of mine made it to me. Incredible, he listened to the Beatles. My first tape was a 90 minute BASF containing most of the songs from the Beatles red album and some from the blue album. At the end he managed to add Mrs Robinson and The Boxer by Simon and Garfunkel. My first tape! I should have kept it as an heirloom! In short, starting with the Beatles now you will understand why I wrote the reviews to all their albums! The love stories of adolescence are never forgotten! In addition, I continued to follow them, to read every book about them, including the mammoth Anthology. Thanks to them and Simon and Garfunkel, I can say that I started from the abc of pop music. My peers sang refrains of Italian melodic commercial songs, I sang, twenty years late, She Loves You, Yeh, Yeh, Yeh, and Lailalà, Lailalalà lailalà, Lailalà taken from The Boxer. - to be continued Edited by jamesbaldwin - February 19 2021 at 18:09 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Lewian
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 18:36 |
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Sorry, I didn't plan to post an overall of 5 songs and of course you don't need to listen to them all, but I failed narrowing these three down to a single one, so I torment you with all of them (even though it will be hard to take the final nomination way from Fehlfarben). Spliff won over Germany 1980-82 with professionalism, top production values as rarely seen before in our country, and high quality song writing. They actually had some good experience as Ex-Nina Hagen band behind them. Here's Glaspalast. (I googled Spliff Glaspalast Lyrics and google gave me the lyrics with translation button, but I don't seem to be able to link that.) Joachim Witt (Hamburg!  ) was a proper Neue Deutsche Welle singer, one of the most original ones, and furthermore ennobled by the contribution of legendary Can drummer Jaki Liebezeit. The lyrics of this one (Tri Tra Trullala/Herbergsvater) are proper da-da. "Stop it children, you are silly. I'm your youth hostel director and say hey hey." (Music starts at 0:51.)The last one is another English one, with Arabian influences. I think that C Cat Trance are not very well known although I think they had a minor hit at some point. Here's They Made Them up. Edited by Lewian - February 21 2021 at 14:02 |
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Snicolette
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Posted: February 19 2021 at 20:40 |
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Will be a bit until I get this far (moving this weekend), but oooooooh! A saz!
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Lewian
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The Gnags this time are the champions of Denmark. Wasn't much impressed by what I had heard from them earlier, but this one is very good straight and sharp music with a twist, which are eighties qualities that I appreciate a lot.
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Lewian
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Posted: February 20 2021 at 03:21 |
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Lorenzo: Very good read! Of course as a German in Italy I particularly appreciate the lessons on the Italian scene! BTW: I have reached the Nick Cave song now and it's up to now surely in the top 3 if not the best. For some reason I don't have much Nick Cave but I've seen him live and some more live shows on TV and youtube. He is great as a performer. His studio work I find hit and miss, but he can do real magic when he's at his best. Edited by Lewian - February 20 2021 at 03:36 |
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suitkees
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Posted: February 20 2021 at 04:45 |
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Who said "dreadful"...? - Last
Easy Money: Dead Kennedys are known to me, but were never really my thing (like most of Punk in general). The intro here is wonderful, but once the singing starts I'm less at ease. Great guitar riffs, though, and some surprising sound effects... I like the playfulness in this song and the echo-y production. dr wu23: Wax Doll by Robyn Hitchcock starts of nicely with acoustic guitar and vocals before turning into a very pleasant pop-rock song with some orchestral touches. Not typical 80s to my ears (timeless!) and a very good listen. Steve Earle somehow is a major country-rock reference, but I must admit that I don't know much from him. I have to change that, because this really is a fantastic song! Great melody, great energy and very nice instrumentation, build-up and playing! Graham Parker is another big name, but here with a, imo, rather conventional (and typical 80s sounding, but that is not a complaint) pop rock song - the least interesting of the three to my ears. Lewian: I vaguely remember Spliff, but not this song. We are in similar territory as with my Nena and Goede Doel suggestions, so you might guess that I like it. Unheimisch too, also reflected by the anti-war lyrics. Typical NDW, but with their own signature and great songwriting (both music and lyrics!). Great song! Herbergsvater by Joachim Witt starts off with that disco-dance-beat that I hate but then subtly merges into a more minimalist, angry, indeed dada-ist stance, which makes it quite fascinating. He must be crazy, but it's actually quite brilliant! Never heard of C Cat Trance and with They Made Them Up they indeed bring us into trance. A subtle start with the saz but then the funky bass and the very tight percussion kick in and don't let us go anymore. Very effective! Listened again to Fehlfarben and Black, but I prefer these three over them two. Edited by suitkees - February 21 2021 at 03:44 |
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Logan
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Posted: February 20 2021 at 14:03 |
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I have signaled my nomination in my first post, but Phew - Signal is my nomination despite Lewian already knowing it and despite The Divinyls "Good Die Young" getting a favourable response (I like that one a lot). I feel like The Divinyls one might be a bit "safe" and middle of the road, whereas "Signal" I think provides more originality and contrast with various other submissions that have been made by others.
I like to consider not just my nomination on its own merits but how it works when compared to others in the mix (I often like the eclecticism of such playlists). The 80s does get called a poor decade far too often, and I think a lot of people are just thinking of certain 80s stereotypes without recognising that like any other decade, there is a huge amount of diversity if you dig in and go deep. I enjoy a diversity of 80s music. It actually happens to be one of my favourite decades when it comes to my collection. |
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jamesbaldwin
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Nick Cave, my third love story after the Beatles and Springsteen, in the late 1980s. He gave his best on the Eighties albums, up to 1991's The Good Son, which I consider the masterpiece of his maturity. A post-punk youth masterpiece is the first album, From Her to Eternity. Decadent horror masterpiece Your Funeral My Trial, including The Carny, and finally pathetic senile - decadent masterpiece No More Shall We Part. But, in my opinion, the quality of all his albums until No More Shall We Part (except for The First Born is Dead and Let Love In) is very very high. Live, among those I have seen, as an emotional charge, involvement, Cave is the only one that has not made me regret Springsteen. Springsteen is hard to overcome (from that point of view, I'm not saying from a strictly musical point of view) because when you see an artist singing to sweat and blood for 4 hours, and you see that in the end he doesn't want to leave the stage, and then, when he does, the concert is over, people are flowing, the lights are shut out, he comes out again, alone, improvising a last song, voice and guitar, you understand that he does it for the love of music and his fans, to whom he believes he has never given enough. Anyway I agree that Cave's live quality (like Springsteen's) is far superior to his studio works. Edited by jamesbaldwin - February 21 2021 at 03:02 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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suitkees
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Posted: February 21 2021 at 03:41 |
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My nomination is Het Goede Doel - Iets van gevoel (Something of a Feeling)...
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