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Topic: Interactive Poll XXVI: The Dreadful DecadePosted By: Lewian
Subject: Interactive Poll XXVI: The Dreadful Decade
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 16:12
Hi there, it seems there is some appetite for another Interactive Poll, so here it is.
The topic is what was referred to in another poll as "The Dreadful Decade", namely the 1980s. Now my musical taste was shaped in the 1980s, so for me it's not the "dreadful decade" but rather the best ever, but some of you will not agree with me. Anyway, come up with a great track from the eighties, be it overall your decade or not.
More precisely, stuff published between 1980 and 1989, and not listed on PA. And just one to be finally nominated. As always you can warm up making a number of suggestions, but surely you don't have to (and neither do you have to write comments on everything if that's not your cup of tea). One finally nominated track is all that it takes.
I'll wait about a week for suggestions, will then ask for final nominations, and then you can vote. You have three votes for three different tracks (but not the one you have nominated yourself). Is that all you need to know? I think so.
Chances are apart from what's listed on PA, there are a lot of big hits from the eighties that everybody knows, maybe avoid these as far as you can (and like); the idea is always also to make others listen some nice stuff that is new to them, although of course we can never be sure.
Actually I realise that I have already played an awful lot of eighties music in these polls, so I have to look a bit for something of a band that I haven't featured yet, but I think I haven't tried German post punk band Fehlfarben yet. So for starters, here's Hutschlaeger from their 1981 album "33 Tage in Ketten":
Lyrics (translated by me):
Accept everything, take the money quickly.
Keep yourself clean, never start again.
Keep your knowledge to yourself.
Don't talk, and don't talk too loudly,
Otherwise you'll be hit on the head.
The telephone is hot, even the fridge is hot.
What you are, what you do already makes you hot hot hot.
Go calmly on the street.
Don't talk, and don't talk too loudly,
Otherwise you'll be hit on the head.
There's nothing new in the mail anymore.
Stamped out like a cigarette.
No use to tremble, it's much too cold.
Too many trees, where's the forest?
Keep your friends secret.
Don't talk, and don't talk too loudly,
Otherwise you'll be hit on the head.
The telephone is hot, even the fridge is hot.
What you are, what you do already makes you hot hot hot.
Replies: Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 16:34
The 80s, my decade!!!
The most futuristic decade ever.
I'm nominating an uplifting song from the UK. Not too obscure, but not very popular either. Hey, were you expecting a Modern Talking song from me? Then, I'll put one from them too!
My nomination: Freeez - IOU
And a "not too popular" song by Modern Talking, out of the competition:
Finally, one from France. One of my favourites as well (this is quite popular, but hey, it is out of the competition):
And thanks Lewian!
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 16:38
Modern Talking! You surely know no fear!
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 16:39
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 16:53
Think I might participate anyway, but I have way too many options. Including some songs by artists I have aldready shared songs by before.
A lot of great Danish albums actually came out during the 80's, especially the early 80's. Many of them by artists who had their breakthrough in the 70's, but there were also some fruitful products of the new wave and post punk movements.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 17:08
EDIT: Phew - "Signal" is my nomination.
As we have recently passed VD (Valentine's Day), romantic that I am will offer these three VD related and rather tainted love choices.
Starting with a passionate one, not that I'm in love with a German film star, we have this from 1981:
The Passions - I'm in Love with a German Film Star
This from 1980 was what I wanted as my wedding song, but I thought better of it:
Bauhaus - In the Flat Field
Then, last but not least in my list, I'm sending a Signal of my tainted love with this 1981 love ballad:
Phew - Signal (my nomination)
Phew, that's done.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 17:22
^ Logan, I wasn't even born on the VD of 1981.
BTW, If I were in a mischievous mood, I might have shared this one. Ooops, I'm doing it I guess (see the video below).
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 17:40
^ I was still a child in 1981, but my love was already tainted one might say. I love The Meaning of Life by the way.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 17:45
^ If you have any interest in playing PC games, The Meaning of Life's one is stellar. Among my favourite games ever. Lots of scenes from the movie too. About 2 decades have passed since I played it, but I still can't forget. Hahaha.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 17:47
^ I love games on any platform. Hadn't heard of that, very cool.
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 17:52
^ Definitely try it! I almost demand it!
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 17:58
Here we have a hopefully reasonably unknown minor hit single, a super catchy pop song I'm coming back to regularly. Leave Yourself Alone. RIP Black.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 15 2021 at 18:20
Thank you for this one, Lewian!
I decided I'm going to feature Was (Not Was) for this one. I hope they are not too familiar to everyone here. Can't decide which will be my final, but am going to post 3 as we often have done.
First one is from their 1983 LP "Born to Laugh at Tornadoes," and features a favourite lead vocalist of theirs, Sweet Pea Atkinson. This one is "Knocked Down, Made Small."
Next up, also with Sweet Pea Atkinson on lead vocals is "Where Did Your Heart Go?" from their debut in 1981.
And thirdly, the deliciously odd "Zaz Turned Blue," with Mel Torme, also from "Born to Laugh at Tornadoes."
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 02:16
Thanks indeed. New ones of these are like Christmas for me and I’m just itching to unwrap the presents. More socks, how predictable, I think every year, but I’m sure this poll will be full of surprises and some more predictable choices too I would predict.. And colour me as another who loves the 80s and thinks that it was a great decade for music. Every decade is, but the 80s hold a special place in my heart.
So I have given a first spin to people choices, but not always proper listens.
Lewian: I loved that Hutschlaeger I like its post punk and Zolo quirkiness very much. As for Leave Yourself Alone, while I once would have emphatically insisted that the song should instead leave me alone, it is quite catchy (much like some of my VD... choices are not ).
Shadowyzard: Some quintessentially 80s stuff there, and all the kind of stuff I loathed in the 80s but appreciate more now. Okay, Freeez kind of leaves me cold, but It wouldn’t make me want to destroy the world anymore. I now can find the Modern Talking one rather fun rather than a sign that civilization has collapsed, and the Voyage Voyage one doesn’t make me want to voyage voyage to a deserted part of the world where I can forget that humanity, or what sadly passes for it, exists. It might have left me Desireless to hear it again, but now I can desire it. It’s not that humanity devolved in the 80s, my tastes evolved, and now I can appreciate such stuff, even if some such stuff only ironically. That last one is my favourite of yours. Good stuff.
Snicolette: Knocked Down, Made Small. I Scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. It didn’t knock me out, but it smacked me around a bit. Where Did Your Heart Go leaves me wondering where did my brain go? Not bad at all, just so different from my kind of fare that I have become accustomed to. As for Zaz Turned Blue, well no lame joking around with this one, I loved listening to that. Great one.
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And I will add this Divinyls one that I think I mentioned in passing in a past poll from 1985, and this is one that I loved at the time and still do...
Divinyls - Good Die Young
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 04:19
not a dreadful decade at all, in fact it was quite hard to choose some songs, there are so many good things, from pop/synth-pop, to AOR, hard rock and a ton of metal.
So put on your dancing shoes, I only chose catchy songs.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 05:39
Thanks Lewian.
The 80s were great. The entirety of my teen years was in the 80s so it did have a substantial influence on who I am today (good and bad). My music listening was all over the place. A reflection that MTV started in 1981 and played a wide variety of music simply because they had to play whatever was available. New wave, synth pop, hair metal, hip hop, and so on all spent time. I can wax on and on with nostalgia (and I will).
First, for my nominee, I’ll go with this one.
The Call “The Woods”
The Call was formed in 1980 in Santa Cruz, California. One of their earliest fans was Peter Gabriel who had them open for him on his 82/83 Plays Live tour. He also had background vocals on their fourth album, Reconciled. This might be their best known album with several tracks getting rock radio airplay, including “I Still Believe (Great Design)”. This song may also be know by being covered in one of the quintessential 80’s movies, Lost Boys. Covered by saxman Tim Caputto, who can forget this scene, with background shots of the Santa Cruz Beach and Boardwalk.
The Call’s biggest hit was “Let the Day Begin” from 1989, which was later used as the official campaign song for Al Gore’s 2000 presidential run.
The Call "Let the Day Begin"
@Shadowyzard: I vaguely recall “IOU” by Freez by IOU. It did remind me of another vowel song that was a dance hit and had a heavily played video, and a favorite of mine back in the day. Many of you might remember this one.
EBN/OZN “AEIOU Sometimes Y”
This song also get the distinction as the first commercially released single recorded entirely on a computer (Fairlight CMI, for you music nerds). This short-lived duo also had a nice video for their song “Bag Lady” featuring actress Imogene Coca.
EBN/OZN “Bag Lady (I Wonder)”
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 06:53
Ah, the 80s.... Synthesizers, synthesizers...!
For me too, this was my coming of age decade, musically speaking (well, regarding other things too, but we're not going to talk about that). No hits? So no Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Talking Heads, Suzanne Vega, Duran Duran, Hall & Oates, Laurie Anderson, Fischer Z...?
At 15, or maybe still 14, I was in love with Nena (who wasn't?). You all know her from her 99 Luftballons (Red Ballons, for the Enlish speaking community), but actually the whole album was - and still is - terrific. Great music, good and interesting lyrics... Here's the closer of that album: Nena - Satellitenstadt:
(translated lyrics https://lyricstranslate.com/en/satellintestadt-satellite-city.html" rel="nofollow - here ).
In the early 80s there were a couple of Dutch bands that were really big in our small country. One of them was Het Goede Doel (litt.: "The Good Cause"). They wrote an alternative to the national anthem of Belgium, our neighbours from the South: België. Their same-titled album produced 5 smashing hits and they - temporarily - became even more popular than Golden Earring... You're of course all curious to hear that national anthem of Belgium, so here it is (BTW, the record company didn't want to put this out on a single because of its length, but a radio DJ pushed and it became one of their biggest hits):
Het Goede Doel - België (Is er leven op Pluto) / Belgium (Is There Life on Pluto):
(translated lyrics https://lyricstranslate.com/en/belgi%C3%AB-belgium.html" rel="nofollow - here ).
The fun thing is that they made an English version called "Luxemburg", with some changes in the lyrics... It starts with "Where can I go, I can't go to Belgium, Belgium doesn't exist..." Go watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdi0aKM9rvc" rel="nofollow - here .
And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLSAi20RCc" rel="nofollow - here a German version for Lewian.
But I actually want to put forward this song, from the same album, but which wasn't a hit. It conveys something of that period of Cold War, nuclear missile-threats, economic crises... Something "unheimisch" as our Eastern neighbours would say.
Het Goede Doel - Iets van gevoel (Something of a Feeling):
(My translation of the lyrics:)
He was dreaming of her Silently and secretly Because love has to come from both sides The dream was a nice start But nothing more could come from it Because she moved in with someone else.
He sometimes injected heroin Silently and secretly Because mother should not learn about it Father! He thought about his father And day-dreaming the injection missed his vein After which he started sweating out of fear.
(Refrain:) Have you something of a feeling Then you just miss your goal Someone's falling from his chair Do you feel what I mean Don't feel with me because it will give you a nasty feeling Feelings are useless.
He enlisted with the IRA Silently and secretly Traitors can be expected anywhere He dreamt and fantasized He was converting everybody Until he noticed they despised him.
(Refrain)
And to end with something from the end of the decade... I discovered them thanks to Marillion, because they fronted Marillion on their 1989 tour: Cutting Crew. Well, they actually already had a minor hit, maybe you remember it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dOwHzCHfgA" rel="nofollow - (I Just) Died In Your Arms . In 1989 they issued their album The Scattering and toured thus with Marillion - and they were quite good! From this album, the title song:
Cutting Crew - The Scattering:
Enjoy!
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 07:01
@Cristi: Your last video doesn't play for me. What song is it?
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 07:04
mathman0806 wrote:
@Cristi: Your last video doesn't play for me. What song is it?
Simple Minds - Glittering Prize
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 07:27
Cristi wrote:
mathman0806 wrote:
@Cristi: Your last video doesn't play for me. What song is it?
Simple Minds - Glittering Prize
Thanks. And for anyone else who it doesn't play for. This one works for me.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 08:21
So here we go. I have three songs to share from the early 80's music scene in Denmark.
Kliché - Militskvinder (Militia Women), 1980
Kliché (Cliché) was formed in the late 70's by students of the art academy in Aarhus. None of them were particularly trained in music, but they had ideas from other experiences with art. They had a breakthrough at a punk festival, but they are clearly not a punk band - they more correctly belong in the new wave category. Their debut album Supertanker (1980) was groundbreaking in Denmark. Kliché's songs were minimalist and machine-like, and the lyrics were very short and concrete, typically about technology, alienation and things like that. They don't state directly what they think about things, the listener has to think for him/herself. "Militskvinder" (from Supertanker) is probably their most famous song; it has words by chairman Mao.
Lyrics and translation: http://docdroid.net/0vjHJED/militskvinder-pdf" rel="nofollow - http://docdroid.net/0vjHJED/militskvinder-pdf
Gnags - Slingrer ned ad Vestergade (Reeling down West Street), 1983
I've shared a song by Gnags before (from 1979), but in the 80's they had really found their feet with a very rhythmic style. Vestergade (West Street) is a street in Aarhus (where they actually shot a music video for the song), but I guess it could also be seen as a symbol of western society more generally.
Lyics and translation: http://docdroid.net/iohIAkl/slingrer-ned-ad-vestergade-pdf" rel="nofollow - http://docdroid.net/iohIAkl/slingrer-ned-ad-vestergade-pdf
Sneakers - Efter festen (After the party), 1980
And now for something very different in a lighter and warmer mode. Sneakers were centered around the singer Sanne Salomonsen, and their sound is of course very typical of its time with elements of funk and slightly jazzy chords. It is much more about music than lyrics, but it's a very nice composition in any case.
Lyrics and translation: http://docdroid.net/bGNR5K5/efter-festen-pdf" rel="nofollow - http://docdroid.net/bGNR5K5/efter-festen-pdf
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 08:45
Logan wrote:
Snicolette: Knocked Down, Made Small. I Scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. It didn’t knock me out, but it smacked me around a bit. Where Did Your Heart Go leaves me wondering where did my brain go? Not bad at all, just so different from my kind of fare that I have become accustomed to. As for Zaz Turned Blue, well no lame joking around with this one, I loved listening to that. Great one.
I thought it would be fun to have something a bit different from me, more straight ahead....They were very quirky, as Zaz shows, wanted to show that side of them as well as the splendid voice of Sweet Pea.
There is a Kinks song that echoes your wondering of where your brain might have gone, lol. "Where Did the Spring Go?" is on The Great Lost Kinks album, which tries to answer this very trying question and also comes up with no clear answer.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 08:48
mathman0806 wrote:
Thanks Lewian.
The 80s were great. The entirety of my teen years was in the 80s so it did have a substantial influence on who I am today (good and bad). My music listening was all over the place. A reflection that MTV started in 1981 and played a wide variety of music simply because they had to play whatever was available. New wave, synth pop, hair metal, hip hop, and so on all spent time. I can wax on and on with nostalgia (and I will).
First, for my nominee, I’ll go with this one.
The Call “The Woods”
The Call was formed in 1980 in Santa Cruz, California. One of their earliest fans was Peter Gabriel who had them open for him on his 82/83 Plays Live tour. He also had background vocals on their fourth album, Reconciled. This might be their best known album with several tracks getting rock radio airplay, including “I Still Believe (Great Design)”. This song may also be know by being covered in one of the quintessential 80’s movies, Lost Boys. Covered by saxman Tim Caputto, who can forget this scene, with background shots of the Santa Cruz Beach and Boardwalk.
The Call’s biggest hit was “Let the Day Begin” from 1989, which was later used as the official campaign song for Al Gore’s 2000 presidential run.
The Call "Let the Day Begin"
Videos removed for space.....I almost brought forth The Call, George! Yes, I was in Santa Cruz at that time and saw them many times. RIP Michael Been. Great, great band and also nostalgic for me, with the Santa Cruz connection.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 09:22
The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 09:44
Lewian wrote:
The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!
Don't forget LEGO and Hans Christian Andersen!
At to music: Carl Nielsen and Niels Wilhelm Gade come to my mind immediately.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 10:17
BaldFriede wrote:
Lewian wrote:
The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!
Don't forget LEGO and Hans Christian Andersen!
Design and literature!
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 12:59
Snicolette wrote:
Logan wrote:
Snicolette: Knocked Down, Made Small. I Scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. It didn’t knock me out, but it smacked me around a bit. Where Did Your Heart Go leaves me wondering where did my brain go? Not bad at all, just so different from my kind of fare that I have become accustomed to. As for Zaz Turned Blue, well no lame joking around with this one, I loved listening to that. Great one.
I thought it would be fun to have something a bit different from me, more straight ahead....They were very quirky, as Zaz shows, wanted to show that side of them as well as the splendid voice of Sweet Pea.
There is a Kinks song that echoes your wondering of where your brain might have gone, lol. "Where Did the Spring Go?" is on The Great Lost Kinks album, which tries to answer this very trying question and also comes up with no clear answer.
Poor Zaz, he turned blue and I have no idea what you were supposed to do.
And I just listened to Where did the Spring Go and read the lyrics to boot. Sometimes I ask where did my keys go? And it is happening more as my spring goes (my spring is a Slinky). And the where did my teeth go reminds me that I have to see the dentist, else my teeth will soon be going in a cup by my bedside. Ah to be green and golden under the apple boughs.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 13:10
Logan wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
Logan wrote:
Snicolette: Knocked Down, Made Small. I Scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream. It didn’t knock me out, but it smacked me around a bit. Where Did Your Heart Go leaves me wondering where did my brain go? Not bad at all, just so different from my kind of fare that I have become accustomed to. As for Zaz Turned Blue, well no lame joking around with this one, I loved listening to that. Great one.
I thought it would be fun to have something a bit different from me, more straight ahead....They were very quirky, as Zaz shows, wanted to show that side of them as well as the splendid voice of Sweet Pea.
There is a Kinks song that echoes your wondering of where your brain might have gone, lol. "Where Did the Spring Go?" is on The Great Lost Kinks album, which tries to answer this very trying question and also comes up with no clear answer.
Poor Zaz, he turned blue and I have no idea what you were supposed to do.
And I just listened to Where did the Spring Go and read the lyrics to boot. Sometimes I ask where did my keys go? And it is happening more as my spring goes (my spring is a Slinky). And the where did my teeth go reminds me that I have to see the dentist, else my teeth will soon be going in a cup by my bedside. Ah to be green and golden under the apple boughs.
Glad you enjoyed the Kinks song. True originals, one of my favourite non-prog bands of all time. Poor Zaz, it's so tragic!
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 14:31
Odds and ends from the Decade That Music Forgot:
Boiled in Lead:
Rare Air:
Don Ross:
Boiled in Lead is my nomination.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 14:36
Shadowyzard wrote:
^ If you have any interest in playing PC games, The Meaning of Life's one is stellar. Among my favourite games ever. Lots of scenes from the movie too. About 2 decades have passed since I played it, but I still can't forget. Hahaha.
And here I thought I was the only person in this known universe that played that zany game. Loved it! As great as the movie itself.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 14:40
I never thought that the 80s should be ignored. I have a lot of favorites from the 80s. Now I just have to decide which to use, and nothing too obvious either, of course.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 15:12
Candidate no. 1: Nick Cave - The Carny
Candiate no. 2: U2 - I Still Havent Found What I'm Looking For (live version, included in Rattle & Hum)
Candidate no. 3: Suzanne Vega - The Queen and the Soldier
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 15:33
First batch
Lewian
Fehlfarben - "Hutschläger": Cool new wave sound with interesting sound effects. I guess this is what is often referred to as the 'Neue deutsche Welle'?. I like it a lot, especially the guitar. Black - "Leave Yourself Alone". I knew a little about that artist ("Everything is Coming Up Roses"), but this sounds very different. Interesting rhythmic pattern. Normally I don't fancy falsetto singing very much, but here I actually find it pretty cool. I like it, but I think I prefer the Fehlfarben song.
Shadowyzard
Freeez - "IOU". It would be fair to say that this is very far away from my musical taste and preferences, and as such not something I can truely judge. If it wasn't for the synthpop sound, parts of the song actually made me think of "Eye of the Tiger". Modern Talking - "In 100 Years". More synthpop, this time it's rather camp to my perception, especially with his soft singing voice. Voyage Voyage continues in the synth area. The vocals sound a bit androgynous, but I guess it is a woman singing, right? Again, music like that does little for me, but tastes differ.
Logan
The Passions - "I'm in Love with a German Film Star" is again quite new wave'ish, especially with the guitar sound and the minimalistic rhythm section. I really enjoy the music here, but I'm unsure of what to think of the lyrics. Bauhaus - "In the Flat Field" is more in the area of post punk with a gothic feel to it. I like the unpolished sound with dissonant guitars and half-speaking vocals. Phew - "Signal" is very original and by far my favourite among the first three. Very off-beat playing by practically all instruments. Dissonant and chaotic. If this is a love ballad, it must be about a very special relationship. Divinyls - "Good Die Young" I think I have heard of, but I hadn't
actually heard the song. Cool number with a lot of chorus effect on the
guitars and some unique vocals. The music video is a bit weird, and she
has a strange charisma. But I like the song.
Snicolette
I knew there was a band called Was (Not Was) - it is Don Was who later worked with the Rolling Stones, right? "Knocked Down, Made Small" is straight forward rock in a time-typical production with synths, gated drums, and a "heroic" guitar solo. Fine song, but I think the vocals are a bit too screamy for my taste. "Where Did Your Heart Go" is more funky with some soul-like vocal phrasings. A bit too monotonous perhaps. "Zaz Turned Blue" has some slightly croon-like vocals. The feel is quite melodramatic, especially with the narrative structure of the lyrics. Sadly, melodrama is not so much my taste.
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 16:11
BaldFriede wrote:
Lewian wrote:
The Anders: GIven that Germany has 14 times the population of Denmark (and Denmark may have a reputation for design and literature but not exactly for music), I'm always amazed with how much variety you can come up from your country!
Don't forget LEGO and Hans Christian Andersen!
At to music: Carl Nielsen and Niels Wilhelm Gade come to my mind immediately.
I admire Carl Nielsen. Niels W. Gade is not what I listen to the most.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 16:32
The Anders wrote:
Logan
The Passions - "I'm in Love with a German Film Star" is again quite new wave'ish, especially with the guitar sound and the minimalistic rhythm section. I really enjoy the music here, but I'm unsure of what to think of the lyrics. Bauhaus - "In the Flat Field" is more in the area of post punk with a gothic feel to it. I like the unpolished sound with dissonant guitars and half-speaking vocals. Phew - "Signal" is very original and by far my favourite among the first three. Very off-beat playing by practically all instruments. Dissonant and chaotic. If this is a love ballad, it must be about a very special relationship. Divinyls - "Good Die Young" I think I have heard of, but I hadn't actually heard the song. Cool number with a lot of chorus effect on the guitars and some unique vocals. The music video is a bit weird, and she has a strange charisma. But I like the song....
Thanks I truly enjoyed reading your post and write-ups all around. As for the lyrics of "I'm in Love with a German Film Star" which I thought of as a bit of fluff (I don't usually pay much attention to lyrics but those could be a bit annoying at times possibly and stand out), I looked it up and saw this on wikipedia:
"The lyrics were written by the band's vocalist Barbara Gogan about Steve "Roadent" Connelly, a one-time roadie for the Clash and Sex Pistols, who had minor roles in several German films[4] and played the Joker in the 1978 miniseries Das Ding."
Das Ding, as in the sentence "Da ist ein ring an dem ding" (if I got that wrong, never mind -- it's not the first time I've used that phrase and I seem to remember being corrected before -- some people just never learn if that is the case). I wanted a loose Valentine's Day theme. I do speak some Japanese still since I was teaching there in the 90s), but I don't think there's much "going on" with them. Phew ( the singer), by the way was in the band Aunt Sally, and Can band members worked on the album (Holger Czukay and Jaki Liebezeit). I actually love that album and suggested Phew to PA years ago http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66985" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=66985
I'm kind of glad that Phew is not in so that I can now nominate her, and that will be my nomination I think. I did mention her in another poll, but not nominated, more in passing as I recall. It is also my favourite of my choices (leaving the best for last in the bunch) . As for Divinyls, I was given a tape of the album that's off while in hospital by an Australian along with Echo and the Bunnymen, and I just missed a Divinyls' concert when I went to Australia to live for a year after high school.
Oh, by-the-by, I bought that Bauhaus anthology with it for Bela Lugosi's Dead, which was a 1979 release originally, and I got to know that due to my favourite film at one time The Hunger.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 18:23
Here are my first listen thoughts up through Cristi's entries on Page 1. As always, lots of great stuff, and even though lots of people think of the 80's as one-note, so far, this shows that was not indeed the case, even if one leaves out the wave of progressive that happened in the 80's.
Lewian:Fehlfarben “Hutschlaeger”Certainly has a sort of sound of some 80’s punkish music, early Talking
Heads-ish, perhaps?.The vocals are rather
harsh, but suits the lyrics.There is a
rhythmic, almost jarring sort of guitar (or is it a synth) throughout,
percussion adjoining it and some sproingy sounds, the piece ends abruptly.Black “Leave Yourself Alone”Has a nice, quirky start with guitars and
synths, some cool percussion by xylophone sounding instrument or synth.Has those 80’s drums, a male lead vocal with
some pretty good range, he goes more falsetto in the chorus.A bit of horns in the middle for
interest.
Shadowyzard:
Freeez “IOU” Synth-y dancy- bass
and that signature sound of drums of the 80’s.
High high voices, very poppy song, meant perhaps for dance clubs. Certainly MTV-conscious with good looking
people abounding and Michael Jackson style choreography. Out of competition with Modern Talking “In
100 Years” Again, synth heavy and more
high voiced male singing. Also MTV ready
with good looks and this time, high cheekbones and long tresses on the lead
singer….am I writing a music review or judging a beauty contest (laughs at
myself)….No mistake, looks were very important for the MTV generation. This one feels a bit manufactured to me. Also out of competition, Voyage Voyage
“Desireless” Can’t tell much from the
lyrics, but this one is also meant for dance clubs, with steady beat and a
sensuous vocal. Can’t tell for certain
whether the singer is male or female (if the cover photo is the lead singer),
but androgyny was also a big thing then.
There is a sort of sadness in the sound to me, I do like the vocals,
thinking by the end, it was more certainly a female. Followed in a bit by “Every Sperm Is Sacred” from
Monty Python’s “The Meaning of Life” Of
course I’ve seen this and it’s very fun, especially with the kids grinning and
bouncing along and singing angelically. 😊
Logan: The
Passions “I’m in Love with a German Film Star” Here come those drums
again. Bass and synths as well, the
guitars are kind of watery and interesting, feels less poppy until the singing
begins. Which is not a criticism, the
80’s had a lot of what I considered good pop, as did the 60’s, at least from my
viewpoint. Anyway female vocalist with
lots of effect on her voice, a bit nonchalant of a vibe to this, sort of
observing dispassionately and commenting.
Bauhaus “In the Flat Field” This
is much more driving than the first with whanging guitars, bass rumbling along
steadily with drums. A basement sound to
the recording. Another sort of
talking-singer, another side to the 80’s, with sarcastic anger songs. I like the guitars and such, not as fond of
the vocals, although I do enjoy the vehemence.
Phew “Signal” Begins with some
quirky, repetitive guitar lines and poppy giant rubber band accents, along with
percussive sounds behind it all. Very
punky vocalist, not sure what the song is about, but I sure wouldn’t cross
her. Maybe she could use a cup of coffee
or a Quaalude. Or both! The Divinyls “Good Die Young”
Lots of attitude from the female lead singer. Kind of a synth-y rock-y feel to this. This
is actually the one I like the best of yours, I do remember the band (from their
US hit, “I Touch Myself”), but not this song (which predates that).
Cristi: Casual Affairs “Emotional
Man” This one has one of the warbling
type vocalists which were heard from time to time in the 80’s. I actually like that style, like here, when
it’s coupled with a good singer, definitely high on the emotional end. This has the signature drum sound and synths,
but it’s a bit on the darker side, which I quite like. Jean Beauvior “Missing the Young Days” Here is someone whose vocals remind me of a
hybrid of Bruce Springsteen and Prince.
The song is couched in a very 80’s synth setting, and It is very wistful
and backwards looking in feel, in missing the young days. Another singer with a passionate voice, I
think I prefer the previous one to this, however. Night Ranger “Love Is Standing Near” Here is a more straight-forward offering, I
remember this band well, but not the song in particular. Rock with the obligatory synths of the era,
this time more harder rock. a-ha
“Manhattan Skyline” A ballad now, with
the superb vocalist of this band…never heard this before. The song begins with the known high end
voice of this singer, then goes into a harder-edged vocal and harmonies. Really interesting production as the song
pivots from sublime to the edgier parts….kind of reflections of a Manhattan
skyline, from the tallest heights down to the street level. Simple Minds “Glittering Prize” This one I remember well, quite enjoyed this
band back in the day. This one has the
kind of bright and sparkly sound of the era with Jim Kerr’s emotive vocals
delivering the lyrics of hope that the glitter won’t fade.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 19:19
Okay, this was tougher than I realized. I wanted to find three songs that prove that the 80's weren't as dreadful as people think, and I ended up with so many songs that I had a hard time deciding. I went with three that are somewhat obscure, but that were from some favorite artists of mine that I actually discovered during that decade.
Starting with one of my all-time favorite bands......
Squeeze - "Last Time Forever" (bonus points if you can figure out what movie the sound clips sampled in the first part of the song is from)
Glass Moon - "Killer at 25" (this is the 2nd time I've posted from this rather obscure band, but it is one I loved)
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - "Forest Fire" Love this extended version....
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 16 2021 at 21:15
The 80's was the decade of my teens and pretty much shaped my listening habits as I went from listening to the pop hits of the Go-Go's and Joan Jett and Foreigner, etc... to the metal hits of Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, Ratt, etc.... Most of what I listened to back then was fairly well known so I will give a couple obscurer examples of local bands in a similar vein, so they will probably have limited appeal to the group that participate in this thread. but it was the local stuff that I was listening to at the time. Sadly, the video/sound quality isn't very good either.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 02:52
Nice to have you back!
Mike, I couldn't see the Squeeze video. Found this one:
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 03:00
The Anders wrote:
Lewian
Fehlfarben - "Hutschläger": Cool new wave sound with interesting sound effects. I guess this is what is often referred to as the 'Neue deutsche Welle'?.
I think many would put them into the Neue Deutsche Welle box, and the term was used for pretty much everything in German language by new artists that came out at the time. Some have a more restricted use of it and use it for the more poppy and fun oriented stuff (much of which dreadful), and I'm not sure Fehlfarben (and others more on the post punk and more thoughtful side of things) would've been happy with that label. But straight rhythms and the punk influence at least of simplicity and transparency were strong in those years, so all the stuff can be seen as somehow connected.
Fehlfarben are by the way active until today, with a fairly long hiatus admittedly. Although in my opinion they have never reached the quality of their first and second album (which was "33 Tage in Ketten", in my opinion their best) anymore, they never sold out, and produce good stuff (let's say 3 stars+) to this day.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 04:45
Lewian: Neither Fehlfarben nor Black would have been on my radar in the 80s: the first a bit too punk, the latter too quirky. It is nice to discover them now, but they're not yet stealing my ears, both are maybe a bit too repetitive to my liking... What's interesting though is that the melodies in the Fehlfarben song mainly come from the bass. Will listen to them again...
Shadowyzard: Ow, maybe Freeez and Modern Talking are examples of why the 80s are considered so dreadful (by some): these two haven't aged very well, imo. A bit too dance oriented (and I've always hated dancing...). And then comes Desireless; this was here major hit (she had a minor one after Voyage Voyage). This is much more to my liking - great singing and part of those songs that remain!
Logan: Nice and engaging rythm to support the etheral voice and the echo-y guitars on this song by The Passions - rather straightforward, but quite effective. I started to appreciate Bauhaus only much later, not that I listen to them much now (and I don't think I heard this one before). This one is quite captivating with the driving bass and the roaring guitars (but not too upfront). Phew is another band I turned my back on in the 80s - I heard of them but never got into them. This one is ice-cold, combining the rudimentariness (does that exist?) of punk with the cold alienation of the New Wave. But Divinyls steal the show here for me with Good Die Young, typical 80s with a sniff of punk and a touch of new wave turning into a great pop-rock song.
Snicolette: Was (Not Was) is another band I heard of but have not heard much from (I think I heard a later album of them...). Knocked Down, Made Small is a great rocker, great playing backed by the synths, whereas Where Did Your Heart Go is much more funky pop-rock. Zaz brings a kind of piano-voice dominated poetic ballad, playing with the thin line between beauty and cliché, but it works for me. The rocking one is my favourite.
Cristi: Casual Affairs and Jean Beauvoir are for me also examples of 80s songs that didn't age well, maybe because they fell the need to put that disco-beat in their songs or if they were composing them with the drum computer (which I disliked then, and still don't like very much now...). Not bad, but not standing out. Neither does Night Ranger, for me, but it is a good straightforward rocker (great playing, but there were so many good rocking bands in the 80s!). a-ha's Manhattan Skyline is the good surprise for me. I don't think I ever heard this one and didn't expect them to bring on this heavy side, which works out quite well! The Simple Minds one is a bit of a deception, especially regarding some of the wonderful songs they have in there catalogue - this one is rather forgettable. My pick is a-ha!
Mathman: The Call is another band I know of but I don't remember what I heard before... Good choice! I quite like these songs: good songwriting, solid and melodic playing and a great voice, especially on The Woods, which a beautiful and powerful song. EBN/OZN got hold up at the customs before entering Europe, I think, and I think the customs did the right thing ;)
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 06:25
80s punky waves and hair... oh yes, there were good things in that decade - Page 2:
The Anders: Kliché, wow, what an entrance with that drum riff. Wouldn't have liked this back then, but it is interesting (a pity that Mao could not listen to it), very tight, like the Gnags one, but which I prefer, because there's much more going on in their music, including a bit more melody and other sounds. Sneakers bring us a romantic ballad that starts of nicely, romantically with piano-voice, before the synthy-funky finale. Very different and thus difficult to choose a favourite between this one and Gnags...
Tancos: A nice discovery for me with The Microorganism by Boiled in Lead: catchy up-tempo violin led folk-rock which juxtaposes with the sad lyrics of a fatal disease (AIDS, I guess...). A strong one! Rare Air bring us some nice (bagpipe) playing in this Dee Dee Diddley Bop, but it does not really move me more than that - it sounds a bit like a showcase and not a worked-out composition. Ginger an Fred by Don Ross offers us again some great - not to say impressive - playing, on the guitar this time. For me this is much more captivating than the previous one, but I still prefer Boiled in Lead.
jamesbaldwin: Wow, three artists I know from Lorenzo! Shame on you ;) But I explored Nick Cave a bit only after the 80s were over. The Carny really is a masterpiece, with its narrative quality, the theatricality and the industrial tinge added to that. Wonderful! The U2 song is maybe a bit too well known, and my problem with U2 has always been that I like many of their songs, but after two or three of them I get bored... This is a great live rendition of I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, the guests and the choir add a lot... And I love Suzanne Vega; everything is in here: great composition, good moving and storytelling lyrics, great playing and a wonderful voice. What is not to like. Hard to choose between Nick Cave and Suzanne Vega, they're so different...
TCat: Not sure if I've ever heard of Squeeze, but this is quite a good song, very dense with all the instruments and sounds, but it works out well (I don't hear a movie sample in the vid Lewian put up... There go my bonus points). Glass Moon make me think a bit of Billy Joel, but this is more theatrical and versatile within one and the same song, building up to the grandiose... Like it very much. I vaguely remember Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, they must have had a (minor?) hit in the Netherlands. Forest Fire is actually just a perfect song! Well written, music and lyrics, perfect build-up, convincing singing, great playing... Difficult to choose a favourite out of these three.
Rushfan4: Ah, rock 'n roll! Good idea to go local, too. Bitter Sweet Alley is nice, but as I said earlier, there were so many very good (hard) rock bands in the 80s and this one doesn't stand out (a bit too common, imo). Seduce deliver the need-for-speed hard rock that never really appealed to me, how impressive the playing might be... The Almighty Strut (Rambo is singing!) suffer here from the bad sound quality, but this is not one for me either, and the Helloween track is not the best they have done in the 80s - I like some of their work, especially in the 80s (we talked about them in an earlier poll), but not this one. From these I prefer the Bitter Sweet Alley song.
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 11:21
Lewian wrote:
Nice to have you back!
Mike, I couldn't see the Squeeze video. Found this one:
[Video removed for space]
That's an edited version. It leaves out some of the best parts. This one says its a 12" mix, but it's actually the album version. Hopefully it will work for you.
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 12:30
"Holiday in Cambodia" The Dead Kennedys 1980
Posted By: Shadowyzard
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 12:40
Easy Money, the video doesn't appear on my screen.
Is the one below the same version?
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 13:24
@Mike: Yeah, that one works fine.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 13:52
^ Yep, for me too, as does the Dead Kennedys one Shadowyzard put up. Thanks!
And regarding Squeeze, I hear the film quote now so I'm coming to collect my bonus points: The S. by S.K. (we cannot say the film is very unknown...;)
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 13:54
The 1980's
(the years in which, as a teenager, I discovered music)
I share this story with you-
I was born on December 13, 1970, and at home, when I was a child, I listened to the music that the television sent, for example the melodic songs of the Sanremo Festival, or opera music (my father was a lover of Giuseppe Verdi, his favourite opera was "La Traviata"), and the melodic songs of the sixties which, in Italy, with small exceptions (the "beat" came at the end of the Sixties), were songs that had nothing to do with rock: everyone knew the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, but more for their fame than for the their records.
The melodic songs of the sixties were still based on the "bel canto" derived from opera: my father listened to those because they reminded him of his youth (I posted one of these songs here in the Int. Polls: Sassi, by Gino Paoli , which as I explained was a song that had something unusual in its singing and lyrics for the time).
Many musical groups of the sixties, as I discovered later in the years, sang English classics adapting them to Italian music and translating the lyrics freely (songs by Neil Diamond, Procol Harum, Beatles etc.).
So it was that I grew up with melodic music, especially from the sixties, and lyric music (especially Verdi - I know every single passage of "La Traviata").
Only when I listened to Lucio Battisti, I understood that melodic music could also have a nice rhythm, and in fact Lucio Battisti, present here on PA, was one of the last Italian melodic singers who had the merit of combining the Italian melody with the forms of pop and the English beat. But there was a problem: I didn't like his voice.
Battisti is a great composer, but not a great interpreter, try listening to his songs sung by Mina ....
do you know Mina? She was (perhaps still is, at almost 80 years old) the greatest Italian interpreter, a fabulous voice, an out of the ordinary mastery of singing, a formidable vocal range, an ability to combine beautiful singing with a youthful vivacity.
And I haven't gotten to the Eighties yet !!! Let's say that all this goes on until 1982. Then, starting from 1983 (twelve years old) things change, I start listening to music for teenage boys on TV.
But this to the next episode!
Hope you enjoy!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 14:03
Nice to read a bit of your history, Lorenzo.
And Nickie and Kees, I really appreciated your write-ups on my selections, and thoroughly enjoyed reading your comments on the selections generally. The comments are what makes the series really great for me -- those shared experiences makes it feel more communal, and I really enjoy reading the insights into the music, as well as the more general feelings. It takes a lot of time and effort, but the efforts are very much appreciated.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 14:06
suitkees wrote:
^ Yep, for me too, as does the Dead Kennedys one Shadowyzard put up. Thanks!
And regarding Squeeze, I hear the film quote now so I'm coming to collect my bonus points: The S. by S.K. (we cannot say the film is very unknown...;)
Way to go Kees! You got it right even if it is in coded form. Your points are awarded (unfortunately, I can only give you one "Thank You" because that's all they allow per person per post).
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 14:08
Logan wrote:
Nice to read a bit of your history, Lorenzo.
And Nickie and Kees, I really appreciated your write-ups on my selections, and thoroughly enjoyed reading your comments on the selections generally. The comments are what makes the series really great for me -- those shared experiences makes it feel more communal, and I really enjoy reading the insights into the music, as well as the more general feelings. It takes a lot of time and effort, but the efforts are very much appreciated.
Thanks, Greg.
I changed the title: I tried to translate an Italian expression into English, but I think I made a mistake!
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 14:20
@Mike: I'm the luckiest man on PA with that bonus point! But it's no secret: I have often used this film for my film analysis classes (after having analyzed it before as film student myself); I may not know it by heart, but almost...
@Lorenzo: We want more, we want more !
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 14:24
You make this thread really great, love to read all your comments and surely also Lorenzo's story!
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 14:27
suitkees wrote:
@Mike: I'm the luckiest man on PA with that bonus point! But it's no secret: I have often used this film for my film analysis classes (after having analyzed it before as film student myself); I may not know it by heart, but almost...
@Lorenzo: We want more, we want more !
While the movie is not a secret, and I would have been surprised if no one knew that line and the screams that follow, but the song itself is the thing that is a bit more obscure, maybe not so much to Squeeze fans like myself, but to the typical listener it is.
Keep your eye out for more bonus point possibilities. Who else do you know that uses that feature for bonus points anyway?
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 14:44
I loved hearing a bit of your life history, Lorenzo. Italy appears so different from the US as far as the music, especially back in your early boyhood....something I would not have imagined, unless I were told. Thank you for sharing that, letting us get to know you a bit better.
And, Logan, I also love to read all of the quick reviews, people hear different things than I do and I like hearing their perspective, whether it echoes mine or not (even when reading about my own offerings here). It is that lively discussion that, for me, is the reason to do these polls, it's much more than "winning."
And of course, it's fun to hear new music and find certain music sometimes winning me over, that I would not have been exposed to otherwise.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 15:28
Easy Money wrote:
"Holiday in Cambodia" The Dead Kennedys 1980
video unavailable
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 15:39
^ Use the one Shadowyzard posted instead.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 17 2021 at 18:52
And concluding with first page, thoughts on George's and suitkees' entries.
George:The
Call “The Woods”As I’d said, I do know
and love(d) this band.Almost
progressive in feel to me, this song has a passionate vocal, instrumentation
that keeps one’s interest and thoughtful lyrics.And a walk down memory lane next up, with The
lost Boys “I Still Believe,” scene.I
used to live close enough to the Boardwalk to hear the screams of the roller
coaster riders, although I was across the San Lorenzo River, on the Seabright
side.Followed by “Let the Day
Begin.”I have another memory also
associated with this one, as we carried Al Gore on one of our buses during his
campaign that year.We got a special
“after hours,” tour of the White House, on a visit to DC, this was just a bit
before 9/11, when they shut down those tours.Great rock song, I’m not naturally as attracted to upbeat songs, but
this one is just infectious as all heck.EBN/OZN “AEIOU Sometimes Y”Squeegly bass and synths, with a rap tale of an almost-achieved
one-night stand and a bit of a class session on languages and
communication.Funny the guy kinda
reminded of DLR in the video, another “Hot For Teacher,” sort of setup, lol.Followed by them again, with “Bag Lady (I
Wonder)” This one is a more socially
conscious effort, the instrumentation and general sound is similar to the
previous, although actually singing, instead of talking through lyrics.Much prefer this.The song in another setting could still be
released today, sadly.And yes!I recognized Imogene Coca, hadn’t read that
yet, before I started up the video.
suitkees:
Nena “Satellitenstadt” Never
heard the album before, so interested in hearing something other than the huge
hit, thank you for the translation. Sort
of a mysterious sound to the song, I really like the guitarist’s tone. There is also a “coolness,” in her voice,
that many of the 80’s bands had, which goes well with the idea of a satellite
in space (at least for me). The synths
also are well-done, but it’s the guitar that grabs my attention here. Het Goede Doel “België (Is er leven op Pluto)” This one has a more upbeat sound to it than
the previous. Synth and drum-driven,
again the signature sound of the era. This
one is kind of spoken, but the chorus is sung.
I like the vocalist, when he’s singing.
Thank you again for the lyrics, I find them kind of funny (esp that
America “doesn’t exist,” lol). The song
has a light-hearted feel and I also enjoy the bass line. Followed by “Iets van gevoel (Something of a
Feeling)” this one has a much
heavier feel (as it should, from the lyrics).
The keys almost create a bagpipe sound and the bass is very
heavy-handed. This one has the vocalist
speaking the words. The chorus is again
sung. There are some really nice touches
about half-way through, ear-catching glassy sounds on keys and reverb-y
sounding something, that I can’t quite touch on. Sad song, poor guy. Cutting Crew “The Scattering” Begins with bright sounding guitars and drums,
with a march-like beat (and sorta bagpipe-y keys again). Very capable sounding vocalist (which is
later proven, as the song continues).
Good story-telling, easy to picture what he signs of, in your mind. A wistful song, they go into a tin-whistle
part and have a full chorus singing in a call and response partway
through. And conclude with the tin
whistles, pipes and the full sound of the band, as it fades. Very nicely done.
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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 18 2021 at 13:16
The 1080's
(second part)
In 1983 I discovered pop music.
In Italy there were three types of musicians in the rankings.
1) The heirs of the Pooh (here in Pa in the Prog-related category) that is groups that came from melodic music
2) some songwriters heirs of Francesco Guccini (whose songs I posted here in the Int. Polls) and Fabrizio De Andrè (here on Pa in the prog related category, he recorded a live album with Pfm which is perhaps the best Italian live album), that is, folk songwriters, who then gradually contaminated their music
3) melodic music singers, Sanremo Festival style (it is the most followed event on TV in Italy).
The same Pooh, Guccini and De André were still in the standings in those years, with great successes.
Prog music had disappeared, because prog groups had turned into pop groups (like Genesis or Yes) but without much success. We must also consider that the Italian prog of the Seventies was a very politicized music, linked to the most radical circles of the extra-parliamentary Left. Even the fathers of the songwriters, Guccini and De André, both anarchists, were extremely politicized. So, just as the seventies were the years of progressive and folk songwriters, that is of politicized music, the eighties became the years of disengagement because progressive had disappeared and few songwriters continued the political vein of Guccini and De André.
There were also two cases.
The first is Franco Battiato: in the seventies he was perhaps the most experimenter of all (a pupil of Stockhausen, his first albums are among the best prog albums, found here on PA). Battiato in the eighties writes dance pop songs with orchestral arrangement and non-sense lyrics with esoteric quotes, in practice he only knows what he is talking about: but he becomes with his albums La Voce del Padrone and L'Arca di Noè the best-selling ever.
The second case is Vasco Rossi, the first Italian rocker who wrote a song in 1983, Vita spericolata (Reckless Life) under the banner of drug sex and rock and roll: He says he wants to have a reckless life like Steve McQueen and shortly after he is arrested for drug possession . Vasco Rossi will become the Italian rocker par excellence, his songs will go to the top of the charts for 40 years !!! Four generations of teenagers will follow him. Perhaps a worldwide case.
I started listening to these songs but to tell the truth I was not particularly interested in any Italian artist (only later I switched to Italian music songwriters and rock group).
In 1983 I discovered McCartney and Michael Jackson's Say Say Say, Jackson's Thriller (Billy Jean), Mike Oldfield's Moonlight Shadow, Every Breath You Take by The Police, the Culture Club, David Bowie (Let's Dance) and Peter Gabriel (Shock the Monkey), Supertramp and Toto (Africa was still in the rankings). Then there were other absurd pop songs like Gazebo's I like Chopin, which was a hit that year.
I wasn't old enough to buy an album yet but those names stuck in my mind and I followed them for years to come.
I had discovered English pop music.
In short, on Sunday morning, after going to Holy Mass, I would return home, listen to Giuseppe Verdi's Traviata that my father used to put on the record player for the hundredth time
(on alternate Sundays there were: La Traviata - Rigoletto - La Traviata - Il Trovatore - La Traviata - Aida - La Traviata - Otello etc by Giuseppe Verdi and occasionally Turandot and Madama Butterfly by Giacomo Pucini)
But then in the afternoon there were music programs on TV where I listened to English pop.
- to be continued
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 18 2021 at 18:51
TCat wrote:
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - "Forest Fire" Love this extended version....
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Mike, yours didn't work for me, is this the same one?
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 18 2021 at 19:06
suitkees wrote:
Rushfan4: Ah, rock 'n roll! Good idea to go local, too. Bitter Sweet Alley is nice, but as I said earlier, there were so many very good (hard) rock bands in the 80s and this one doesn't stand out (a bit too common, imo). Seduce deliver the need-for-speed hard rock that never really appealed to me, how impressive the playing might be... The Almighty Strut (Rambo is singing!) suffer here from the bad sound quality, but this is not one for me either, and the Helloween track is not the best they have done in the 80s - I like some of their work, especially in the 80s (we talked about them in an earlier poll), but not this one. From these I prefer the Bitter Sweet Alley song.
The last track is actually from a local band called Halloween, which is different than Helloween. They used to play live shows from them on Halloween here on local radio. I think they may have a connection with New York too. They are a three degrees of separation band, as my sister went to school with the sister of one of the band members.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 06:40
^ Oh, silly me... I read Halloween and I thought Helloween. It must be something pavlovian...
So you did some "contact tracing"... Very much in vogue these times.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 08:32
suitkees wrote:
^ Oh, silly me... I read Halloween and I thought Helloween. It must be something pavlovian...
So you did some "contact tracing"... Very much in vogue these times.
there are a few bands named Halloween, that's why the Germans called themselves HElloween. I know there was a French heavy metal band named Halloween.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:06
Snicolette wrote:
TCat wrote:
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - "Forest Fire" Love this extended version....
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Mike, yours didn't work for me, is this the same one?
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Nickie,
That one works great. If anyone else can't use the one I posted, then use this one.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:41
A few things I listened to back in the day..still a fan of all of them...
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 10:52
^ The third one doesn't show up for me. What's the artist/band and title? I will try to find a working alternative...
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 13:04
suitkees wrote:
^ The third one doesn't show up for me. What's the artist/band and title? I will try to find a working alternative...
Fixed it...Graham Parker..Get Started Start A fire
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 13:24
Works! Thanks.
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Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 15:32
TCat wrote:
Snicolette wrote:
TCat wrote:
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - "Forest Fire" Love this extended version....
Videos removed for space
Mike, yours didn't work for me, is this the same one?
[video removed for space]
Nickie,
That one works great. If anyone else can't use the one I posted, then use this one.
Thanks Nickie!!!!!!
YVW, Mike
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 17:30
I'm listening my way through the suggestions (EBN/OZN have emerged as a surprise favourite, oh, and Iets van Gevoel - the Phew track is also great but I have that album). Let's collect final nominations until end Sunday; I'd like to have the list of things to vote on together end of Monday at the latest.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 17:56
The 1980's
(third part)
1984, in Italy, was still a year full of albums by songwriters, melodic groups like Pooh, and pop groups. No big news. At the level of foreign singers, it was the year of Sade (music that interested me only for the beauty of the singer) and Steve Wonder (I just called to say I love You), plus Paul Young, Queen, Wham, Lionel Richie, all singers who were in the charts with commercial 45s that were very easy listening (and musically bad), and Bronski Beat with Smalltown Boy, I liked that song. Thinking about that year, there were Phil Collins with Against All Odds and Talk Talk with It's my life album (both good commercial music), and Yes' 90125, a wonderful album, but I didn't notice them at the time.
The main event for me was the first tape. A friend of mine made it to me. Incredible, he listened to the Beatles. My first tape was a 90 minute BASF containing most of the songs from the Beatles red album and some from the blue album. At the end he managed to add Mrs Robinson and The Boxer by Simon and Garfunkel.
My first tape! I should have kept it as an heirloom!
In short, starting with the Beatles now you will understand why I wrote the reviews to all their albums! The love stories of adolescence are never forgotten! In addition, I continued to follow them, to read every book about them, including the mammoth Anthology.
Thanks to them and Simon and Garfunkel, I can say that I started from the abc of pop music. My peers sang refrains of Italian melodic commercial songs, I sang, twenty years late, She Loves You, Yeh, Yeh, Yeh, and Lailalà, Lailalalà lailalà, Lailalà taken from The Boxer.
- to be continued
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 18:36
Sorry, I didn't plan to post an overall of 5 songs and of course you don't need to listen to them all, but I failed narrowing these three down to a single one, so I torment you with all of them (even though it will be hard to take the final nomination way from Fehlfarben).
Spliff won over Germany 1980-82 with professionalism, top production values as rarely seen before in our country, and high quality song writing. They actually had some good experience as Ex-Nina Hagen band behind them. Here's Glaspalast. (I googled Spliff Glaspalast Lyrics and google gave me the lyrics with translation button, but I don't seem to be able to link that.)
Joachim Witt (Hamburg! ) was a proper Neue Deutsche Welle singer, one of the most original ones, and furthermore ennobled by the contribution of legendary Can drummer Jaki Liebezeit. The lyrics of this one (Tri Tra Trullala/Herbergsvater) are proper da-da. "Stop it children, you are silly. I'm your youth hostel director and say hey hey." (Music starts at 0:51.)
The last one is another English one, with Arabian influences. I think that C Cat Trance are not very well known although I think they had a minor hit at some point. Here's They Made Them up.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 19 2021 at 20:40
Will be a bit until I get this far (moving this weekend), but oooooooh! A saz!
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 03:17
The Gnags this time are the champions of Denmark. Wasn't much impressed by what I had heard from them earlier, but this one is very good straight and sharp music with a twist, which are eighties qualities that I appreciate a lot.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 03:21
Lorenzo: Very good read! Of course as a German in Italy I particularly appreciate the lessons on the Italian scene!
BTW: I have reached the Nick Cave song now and it's up to now surely in the top 3 if not the best. For some reason I don't have much Nick Cave but I've seen him live and some more live shows on TV and youtube. He is great as a performer. His studio work I find hit and miss, but he can do real magic when he's at his best.
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 04:45
Who said "dreadful"...? - Last
Easy Money: Dead Kennedys are known to me, but were never really my thing (like most of Punk in general). The intro here is wonderful, but once the singing starts I'm less at ease. Great guitar riffs, though, and some surprising sound effects... I like the playfulness in this song and the echo-y production.
dr wu23: Wax Doll by Robyn Hitchcock starts of nicely with acoustic guitar and vocals before turning into a very pleasant pop-rock song with some orchestral touches. Not typical 80s to my ears (timeless!) and a very good listen. Steve Earle somehow is a major country-rock reference, but I must admit that I don't know much from him. I have to change that, because this really is a fantastic song! Great melody, great energy and very nice instrumentation, build-up and playing! Graham Parker is another big name, but here with a, imo, rather conventional (and typical 80s sounding, but that is not a complaint) pop rock song - the least interesting of the three to my ears.
Lewian: I vaguely remember Spliff, but not this song. We are in similar territory as with my Nena and Goede Doel suggestions, so you might guess that I like it. Unheimisch too, also reflected by the anti-war lyrics. Typical NDW, but with their own signature and great songwriting (both music and lyrics!). Great song! Herbergsvater by Joachim Witt starts off with that disco-dance-beat that I hate but then subtly merges into a more minimalist, angry, indeed dada-ist stance, which makes it quite fascinating. He must be crazy, but it's actually quite brilliant! Never heard of C Cat Trance and with They Made Them Up they indeed bring us into trance. A subtle start with the saz but then the funky bass and the very tight percussion kick in and don't let us go anymore. Very effective! Listened again to Fehlfarben and Black, but I prefer these three over them two.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 20 2021 at 14:03
I have signaled my nomination in my first post, but Phew - Signal is my nomination despite Lewian already knowing it and despite The Divinyls "Good Die Young" getting a favourable response (I like that one a lot). I feel like The Divinyls one might be a bit "safe" and middle of the road, whereas "Signal" I think provides more originality and contrast with various other submissions that have been made by others.
I like to consider not just my nomination on its own merits but how it works when compared to others in the mix (I often like the eclecticism of such playlists). The 80s does get called a poor decade far too often, and I think a lot of people are just thinking of certain 80s stereotypes without recognising that like any other decade, there is a huge amount of diversity if you dig in and go deep. I enjoy a diversity of 80s music. It actually happens to be one of my favourite decades when it comes to my collection.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 02:54
Lewian wrote:
Lorenzo: Very good read! Of course as a German in Italy I particularly appreciate the lessons on the Italian scene!
BTW: I have reached the Nick Cave song now and it's up to now surely in the top 3 if not the best. For some reason I don't have much Nick Cave but I've seen him live and some more live shows on TV and youtube. He is great as a performer. His studio work I find hit and miss, but he can do real magic when he's at his best.
Nick Cave,
my third love story after the Beatles and Springsteen, in the late 1980s. He gave his best on the Eighties albums, up to 1991's The Good Son, which I consider the masterpiece of his maturity. A post-punk youth masterpiece is the first album, From Her to Eternity. Decadent horror masterpiece Your Funeral My Trial, including The Carny, and finally pathetic senile - decadent masterpiece No More Shall We Part.
But, in my opinion, the quality of all his albums until No More Shall We Part (except for The First Born is Dead and Let Love In) is very very high.
Live, among those I have seen, as an emotional charge, involvement, Cave is the only one that has not made me regret Springsteen. Springsteen is hard to overcome (from that point of view, I'm not saying from a strictly musical point of view) because when you see an artist singing to sweat and blood for 4 hours, and you see that in the end he doesn't want to leave the stage, and then, when he does, the concert is over, people are flowing, the lights are shut out, he comes out again, alone, improvising a last song, voice and guitar, you understand that he does it for the love of music and his fans, to whom he believes he has never given enough.
Anyway I agree that Cave's live quality (like Springsteen's) is far superior to his studio works.
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 03:41
My nomination is Het Goede Doel - Iets van gevoel (Something of a Feeling)...
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 03:50
my nomination is a-ha - Manhattan Skyline.
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 04:29
My nomination:
Nick Cave: The Carny
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 04:39
we got a troll amongst us, someone voted for the letter "e", important vowel I guess...
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 05:07
My nomination is Gnags - Slingrer ned ad Vestergade
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 06:51
Cristi wrote:
we got a troll amongst us, someone voted for the letter "e", important vowel I guess...
Maybe somebody wanted to check whether I (as always) forgot to allow multiple votes. This person was right and I have amended that. So it actually fulfilled a purpose, even if I don't know whether that was intended.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 06:54
Lewian wrote:
Cristi wrote:
we got a troll amongst us, someone voted for the letter "e", important vowel I guess...
Maybe somebody wanted to check whether I (as always) forgot to allow multiple votes. This person was right and I have amended that. So it actually fulfilled a purpose, even if I don't know whether that was intended.
no, I think it's mean spirited, ill-willed trolling.
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 09:25
I find it hard to decide on a nomination this time around.
Squeeze is my personal favorite among the three that I put up, but it is a bit complex and definitely needs to grow on the listener, but once it does, it's one that will show it's complexity much better. That is actually the case with that entire album "Cosi Fan Tutti Frutti", their proggiest out of their many albums.
The Glass Moon song is a bit more accessible, snappy and infectious. They are the least known of the three that I posted. But it's also more poppy out of the three.
Lloyd Cole and the Commotions is one band that I thought was woefully ignored, yet Cole is quite a good songwriter and I think gets forgotten among the great songwriters mainly because he was around mostly in the 80's. "Forest Fire" is one of my favorites of his songs.
Excuse all that, I'm just thinking out loud (is it out loud if I'm typing it out instead of actually saying it audibly?) Anyway, after all of that, I am going to nominate Lloyd Cole and the Commotions "Forest Fire".
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 12:55
My goodness, all the way up Page Five! Here are my initial thoughts on Page Two thus far. Going a bit slower than usual, with a disruptive weekend, but will try and catch more later today.
George: The
Call “The Woods” As I’d said, I do know
and love(d) this band. Almost
progressive in feel to me, this song has a passionate vocal, instrumentation
that keeps one’s interest and thoughtful lyrics. And a walk down memory lane next up, with The
lost Boys “I Still Believe,” scene. I
used to live close enough to the Boardwalk to hear the screams of the roller
coaster riders, although I was across the San Lorenzo River, on the Seabright
side. Followed by “Let the Day
Begin.” I have another memory also
associated with this one, as we carried Al Gore on one of our buses during his
campaign that year. We got a special
“after hours,” tour of the White House, on a visit to DC, this was just a bit
before 9/11, when they shut down those tours.
Great rock song, I’m not naturally as attracted to upbeat songs, but
this one is just infectious as all heck.
EBN/OZN “AEIOU Sometimes Y”
Squeegly bass and synths, with a rap tale of an almost-achieved
one-night stand and a bit of a class session on languages and
communication. Funny the guy kinda
reminded of DLR in the video, another “Hot For Teacher,” sort of setup,
lol. Followed by them again, with “Bag
Lady (I Wonder)” This one is a more
socially conscious effort, the instrumentation and general sound is similar to
the previous, although actually singing, instead of talking through
lyrics. Much prefer this. The song in another setting could still be
released today, sadly. And yes! I recognized Imogene Coca, hadn’t read that
yet, before I started up the video.
suitkees: Nena
“Satellitenstadt“ I do
remember the huge hit, of course, but never really heard anything else by them. Synth pop with some tasty guitar
accents. A march-like cadence to the
piece with a sort of almost mechanical-yet-human vocal, which makes sense to
me, being about a satellite. Cold kind
of feeling to the tune, lots of 80’s music had this sort of ambience. Very representative of the era. Het Goede Doel “België (Is er leven op Pluto”) Bouncy
synth, percussion and bass start to the piece.
The verses are spoken, the choruses sung by a lilting male voice. The lyrics I find funny, esp regarding
America (it doesn’t exist, lol!) Iets
van gevoel (Something of a Feeling)”
this one has a much heavier feel (as it should, from the lyrics). The keys almost create a bagpipe sound and
the bass is very heavy-handed. This one
has the vocalist speaking the words. The
chorus is again sung. There are some
really nice touches about half-way through, ear-catching glassy sounds on keys
and reverb-y sounding something, that I can’t quite touch on. Sad song, poor guy Cutting Crew. “The
Scattering” Pleasant vocalist, singing
of when things were different, there are bass and guitars, and slightly, in the
background, a bagpipe kind of sound, probably done on keys. Pretty, nostalgic song.
The Anders:Kliché “Militskvinder” They waste no time in getting started
here. Group-sing and steady beat of the
band behind it, with a sort of lead played on a keyboard. Reminds me of some early 60’s music, with the
chorus. I am not sure if they approve or
not. Gnags “Slingrer ned ad Vestergade” This one also is very new wave sounding to
me. An ironic (again) tone in his voice,
indeed, he does seem to be critical of the attempted sunniness of the past,
growing their gardens and now everything is asphalted and the people of the
past don’t understand how the world has changed. Bouncy, steady beat with percussion and keys
moving the song along it’s way down that street. Sneakers “Efter festen” This one
is very different indeed, than the previous two. Solo piano begins, with a pretty, pretty
female lead vocalist. Reminiscent
to me of Laura Nyro, I like this one a
lot. Lovely ballad, and beautifully
played.
Tancos:Boiled in Lead “The
Microorganism” Begins with some twangy guitar and a single male singing, then
fiddles join in. The accompaniment fades
to the background during the verses, then swells with the choruses and includes
bagpipes sound as well as the fiddles.
This is really such fun, this had totally passed me by, even though I
love this kind of music. Thank you! Rare Air:
“Dee Dee Diddley Bop” Here we start with pipes (bombardes?) will have to
look these guys up for that. Also
acoustic guitars, bass and percussion.
The bombarde drops down into a solo (yes, looked it up to see if they
had bombardes), joined with some very subtle strings, with shimmerings of
guitar joining in. Back to the main
portion of the song to finish out on a repeat of the melody. Another new one to me and another thank-you!Don Ross “Ginger An Fred” An
obviously excellent acoustic guitarist starts this one, another I haven’t heard
of, have no idea how all three of these escaped me in those days. I guess you just can’t have ears
everywhere. Really gorgeous acoustic
guitar piece. None of these were
“typical” 80’s, but, just like prog, other music kept right on going, no matter
what was mainstream. Very well
done, indeed!
Lorenzo:Nick Cave “The Carny” This one starts out with a dark, ominous,
slightly jarring keyboard (and gets more jarring) and vibes or xylophone,
emulating a circus theme, which is, of course, entirely appropriate. I know of Nick Cave by name, but really only
recently have I started to hear his music, with his fantastic “Ghosteen,”
release. Absolutely love this, too. A dark circus story, chillingly delicious.
U2 “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For”Very familiar with this, of course.We carried them on our buses several times,
so got to see them live, as well.I know
some people love to hate them (now), but they were pretty unstoppable in their
time.I do like the band, especially
certain songs, of which this is one.Suzanne Vega:“The Queen and the
Soldier”This one I’ve also heard
before, I do enjoy her music and this is a great allegorical tune, very spare
production with a message.
Mike:Squeeze “Last Time Forever” Almost a capella beginning, with just voices
and drums, then bass and shimmery keys come in with a voice over, and a
scream….moves into sprightly piano, slightly akimbo. Lots of dynamics here, with a smooth smooth (and
I meant that repeated, it’s super-smooth) and soulful lead male vocal. Keeps it’s upbeat tone throughout, even
though he’s said goodbye for the last time…..hope he means it, not good if you
have to keep saying goodbye to someone.
The slipping and sliding horns etc keep up the interest on this one. Glass Moon “Killer At 25” Begins with maybe
mandolins, a clear male vocalist, keys and guitar underscore another sort of
marching-along-song. A singer/songwriter
with rock band behind him, I would venture to guess. Wonky in a good way, guitar lead in the
middle. Lloyd Cole & the Commotions “Forest Fire” A bit wistful of a song, straight-forward
rock/singer/songwriter with a spare band backing him. Touches of keys come in, underneath and a
rich and full-sounding lead guitar close out the song.
Scott: Bitter Sweet Alley “Time to Move” Fun idea to go local! The video/sound on this one is just
fine. Young rock band with catchy lyrics
and good sound, overall. Clear vocals
with nice doubling up on vocals here and there.
Very good guitar playing, nice
tight band. Definitely a mid-western vibe
here, with a sort of pop sensibility. I
could easily have seen them making the circuit in Hollywood at the time. They’re a little poppier than most of the
hair bands, but that might appeal a lot as a “gateway,” band to metal for the
slightly younger set. Seduce: “Crash Landing” This one is much harder-edged, I see they
were signed to IRS/MCA. They come out of
the gate, swinging, with full band and vocals as usual for this style,
pyrotechnic-style lead in about the middle…another I could see making the
rounds of Hollywood in the hair band era.
The Almighty Strut “Undercover”
Another harder-edged band, from the same era and bag of tricks as the previous
band. Very capable act of this nature,
with attitude. Halloween “Trick or
Treat” Another set of hard rockers,
pulling no punches right from the start, with a bit of glam makeup and
costuming thrown in for good measure. I think I prefer the first one, but that
could just be as I’m not as big a fan of this overall, heard and seen plenty of
it. But they were all excellent at what
they did, even though it’s not my cup of tea.
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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 13:50
Snicolette wrote:
The Anders:Kliché “Militskvinder” They waste no time in getting started
here. Group-sing and steady beat of the
band behind it, with a sort of lead played on a keyboard. Reminds me of some early 60’s music, with the
chorus. I am not sure if they approve or
not. Gnags “Slingrer ned ad Vestergade” This one also is very new wave sounding to
me. An ironic (again) tone in his voice,
indeed, he does seem to be critical of the attempted sunniness of the past,
growing their gardens and now everything is asphalted and the people of the
past don’t understand how the world has changed. Bouncy, steady beat with percussion and keys
moving the song along it’s way down that street. Sneakers “Efter festen” This one
is very different indeed, than the previous two. Solo piano begins, with a pretty, pretty
female lead vocalist. Reminiscent
to me of Laura Nyro, I like this one a
lot. Lovely ballad, and beautifully
played.
Thanks a lot for your words. I don't think Kliché looked much to the early 60's for inspiration. Their sources of inspiration were more likely David Bowie, Kraftwerk, Roxy Music and things like that. Their performances were very conceptual, for instance they usually performed with neon lights, and sometimes in white boiler suits.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 13:57
Some more brief comments. I know many of these (good music was a
life changing discovery and I listened to a lot of stuff when I made
this discovery around 1980). The Shadowyzard plays some proper charts
pop stuff. I know all of these (I knew what was selling in the eighties)
but not many caught my interest. The thing about IOU is that although I
didn't hear it that often (and it was surely not my cup of tea), I
remembered pretty much 100% of it just seeing the song title on the
video. That's something, isn't it?
The Passions & Bauhaus -
well, I like the approach, but I can't find some of that inexplicable
magic in them that speaks to me personally. Same with The Call, The Dead
Kennedys, Squeeze (the full length version is indeed much superior to
the one I heard first) and a few others. Phew beats these by some
distance.
Was (Not Was) also belong to those that mostly pass me by. I like Zaz Turned Blue quite a bit more than the other two.
Cristi
has already nominated A-Ha, and rightly so, I like a good number of
their songs including this one, I knew it already though. The others...
well, I can never explain why a few more or less mainstream pop songs
get me and others don't. I was surrounded by Simple Minds fans those
days but they never got me.
I expected to like the Call much
more than EBN/OZN, although Call are the typical band "good in
principle" that never managed to make me remember their songs. EBN/OZN
on the other hand I don't remember having known back in the day. This
isn't really my style but the AEIOU song is big fun.
Satellitenstadt
is indeed one of the few Nena songs that I have on my machine to this
day. Novalis' Carlo Karges had a hand in this. Iets van Gewoehl is the
first song I hadn't known before that I really like a lot. That one I
can imagine I'd have played a lot those days, had I known it. As you
apparently, I have seen the Cutting Crew live, they played together with
the Comsat Angels in Hamburg, one of my absolute favourite bands (I
haven't nominated them here because I had already used them - maybe at
some point I'll have to start recycling artists, but not yet). They were
not bad, but like the Call they play generally enjoyable music that
didn't make a lasting impression on me.
Tancos:
I have a weak spot for such folky stuff. I like all three although none
of them really sticks out. I'd probably choose the Microorganism out of
these but they're really all tied.
Lorenzo:
The other two ones you suggest in your first post I know well. I'm a big
Suzanne Vega fan whereas "I still haven't found..." belongs to the 90%
U2 stuff that leaves me cold. Fascinating though the Battiato song from
the eighties. Not sure yet what to make of it. I love some of his early
work.
TCat: Can't decide between your three
- probably in the end Squeeze is still the winner out of yours, but
there's not much between them. All quality stuff, none that really got
me at first listen.
rushfan: Yeah, nice
addition to the poll, that stuff existed as well. Not that much on my
turntable though, but on my brother's. If I had to pick one of these,
it'd be Seduce.
Dr Wu: The Robyn Hitchcock one
passes me by; Graham Parker has a great sound but the song itself isn't
that interesting to my ears. Copperhead Road wins out of these three.
Love such stuff when in the right mood. (Ah, good for getting together,
not for social distancing. )
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 16:22
The Anders wrote:
Thanks a lot for your words. I don't think Kliché looked much to the early 60's for inspiration. Their sources of inspiration were more likely David Bowie, Kraftwerk, Roxy Music and things like that. Their performances were very conceptual, for instance they usually performed with neon lights, and sometimes in white boiler suits.
Yeah, I didn't think they were influenced by that. It may be that it is the only song they did that kind of a chorus in, as well. There were a few bands who did sort of hearken back to those days, like The Bangles, who immediately come to mind, so it was a sound that was floating around that also could sound "new."
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 16:30
I think I am going to choose "Zaz Turned Blue," for my nomination, it's actually my favourite of theirs....I love that all of their lyrics have some oddness to them, even when it sounds like it's a straight-ahead song of one kind or another. They used lots of guest vocalists; Ozzy, Mitch Ryder, Otis Redding, Elvis Costello, and some guest players as well.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 21 2021 at 19:49
Despite Lewian's surprise liking of EBN/OZN, my nominee is The Call "The Woods". A band a saw a couple of time live playing at clubs in San Francisco, later in their timeline than Nickie seeing them in Santa Cruz, which I am jealous of.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 08:21
Just in an oddly right place at the right time, no need for jealousy!
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 08:48
jamesbaldwin wrote:
The 1080's
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Lorenzo, I can't view this one and the title etc don't show up to give me an idea where to look. Can you let us know the title and artist so we can find another? Thanks! Loving your story, btw
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 09:44
Continuing from where I left.
Cristi
Casual Affairs - "Emotional Man": Guitar with chorus effect, synthesizers and gated drums. The vocals are clearly inspired by David Bowie. I like this song a lot. Jean Beauvoir - "Missing the Young Days" contains a drumbeat typical of its time. Once again there's a lot of synth, but no chorus guitar. Not a bad song, but not something I would normally listen to. The guitar solos, like many others of the 80's is a bit over the top. But it's not without edge. But I like the first one a lot better. Night Ranger - "Love Is Standing Near" screams hair metal to me (or as we call it in Scandinavia: poodle rock). We're back to heavy guitar sound, including some guitar duets. More synths. Not really my taste to be honest, I have always found the genre very overblown, and very commercial too (I admit I quite like some songs by Def Leppard, but ssh...). A-ha I know primarily for "Take On Me". I can not recall having heard "Manhattan Skyline" before. It starts in an poppy synth universe, but the music suddenly becomes more rocky with heavy guitars. Quite an interesting song in terms of song structure. I quite like it. Simple Minds is a band I only knew by name. Here's quite a change of sound with more dry production values, except there is still chorus on the guitar. There's an echo of the late 70's with the disco-like drumbeat, and I sense a new wave inspiration too. Fine song.
mathman0806
The Call - "The Woods" is clearly rooted in new wave. It has a rather dark and slightly gothic mood, especially with the vocal style. I like it. "I Still Believe": the clip is too short to give a real impression of the song, but it is obviously more dance oriented. "Let the Day Begin": I wonder if this song started the trend with music videos in forests (there are quite a lot of them). It sounds more commercial than "The Woods". Fortunately the bluesy guitar solo counterweights that, but overall the song doesn't really intrigue me. EBN/OZN: I have never heard of this band. "AEIOU Sometimes Y" begins in a very quirky way with some weird electronic sounds. There is recitation in the verse. I find the music very intriguing, even though the video clip is rather camp, and a bit creepy too. "Bag Lady" continues in the same vein video-wise, but the music is less weird, more commercial, and as such less interesting for me.
suitkees
Nena - "Satellitenstadt". I know "99 Luftballons" of course, but not this one. Good song that I probably have to hear again to really "get". Het Goede Doel - "België (Is er leven op Pluto)" has funky groove and a synth riff in the beginning. The lyrics are a bit corny, but not without humour ("I don't want to go to Poland, things are going too well there."). All in all it's a bit too gimmicky for my taste, but I imagine the song got some airplay in the Flemish part of Belgium. "Iets van gevoel": I like this one much better. Interesting production (especially the drumbeat) with many details, and generally a very well crafted song. Cutting Crew - "The Scattering": It's easy to hear it's from the late 80's, and I'd say it is kind of an indication that the overproduction of the 80's was beginning to fade. The sound is relatively organic. I like the song, especially the folk music parts.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 10:20
Let's see what nominations we already have.
Mathman - The Call - "The Woods"
Snicolette - Was (Not Was) - "Zaz Turned Blue"
The Anders - Gnags - Slingrer ned ad Vestergade
jamesbaldwin - Nick Cave - The Carny
Cristi - a-ha - Manhattan Skyline
suitkees - Het Goede Doel - Iets van gevoel
Logan - Phew - Signal
Easy Money - The Dead Kennedys - "Holiday in Cambodia"
Shadowyzard - Freeez - IOU
TCat - ?
Dr. Wu23 - ?
rushfan4 - ?
Tancos - ?
Lewian - ?
It would be nice to have the remaining ones soon, optimally today. In case I have missed something, please tell me.
Posted By: Tancos
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 10:29
Nominee: Boiled in Lead, "The Microorganism"
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 10:34
TCat wrote:
Anyway, after all of that, I am going to nominate Lloyd Cole and the Commotions "Forest Fire".
Sorry Lewian. This was buried in my last message so it probably didn't get seen with all my other blabbering going on.
Posted By: Snicolette
Date Posted: February 22 2021 at 10:58
The Anders wrote:
Continuing from where I left.
Cristi
Casual Affairs - "Emotional Man": Guitar with chorus effect, synthesizers and gated drums. The vocals are clearly inspired by David Bowie. I like this song a lot. Jean Beauvoir - "Missing the Young Days" contains a drumbeat typical of its time. Once again there's a lot of synth, but no chorus guitar. Not a bad song, but not something I would normally listen to. The guitar solos, like many others of the 80's is a bit over the top. But it's not without edge. But I like the first one a lot better. Night Ranger - "Love Is Standing Near" screams hair metal to me (or as we call it in Scandinavia: poodle rock).
Edited for space..... "poodle rock" Lots of people loved it, obviously, just laughing at the term, hadn't heard it.
------------- "Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp