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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2004 at 14:32

maani : I only repeat myself in my responses in natural response to the repetition in the challenges to my assertions. I have deliberately avoided the technical in my most recent responses, as I do recognise the validity of opinion

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Points: 3525 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2004 at 17:20

I'm somewhere in the middle- not a big fan of Marillion, but at the very least somewhat objectively appreciative of their achievements. Without making any claims about the value or emotive content of their music, I'll take a look at some of the ext

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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2004 at 03:27

[QUOTE=James Lee]

Initial thoughts below (post edited for brevity - hopefully I have retained context);

Several elements contributed to what a lot of people recognize as the characteristically

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Points: 8548 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2004 at 05:34
Oh My 


Order them not into damnation
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Halt!!!

Who goes there?

 

Sorry, Velve - I just wanted to understand the perceptions - it's really not an attempt to

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Points: 8548 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2004 at 06:38
Well the  was not aimed at you, I¦m behind you 100%, I¦m just so tired of all this crap about Marillion. They were great, when Fish was amongst them, there was drama, anger, sorrow and humor in the lyrics
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[QUOTE=James Lee]The keyboards luckily tended to stay away from the patently artificial FM tones (no Michael Bolton pianos or Depeche Mode bells)  but adopted a more rhythmic, 'gate

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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2004 at 08:51

OK, I get your drift, but Elgar used the same old violin sound as Debussy, Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi, Albioni, Purcell...

In other words, none of the songs you've named sound "the same", they&n

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So here I am once more...............................

I act the role in classic style
Of a martyr carved with a twisted smile
To bleed the lyric for this song
To write the rites to right my wrongs
An epitaph to a
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Absolutely- if you thought I was saying that Marillion was really akin to any of those bands, then I didn't make myself clear enough (as usual). I was mainly trying to prove that bands from the 80s shared many specific characteristics&nbs

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[QUOTE=maani]

.  In this regard, if you do have a "higher standard" regarding what is "prog" - and you dislike almost every other form of music (rock, rock'n'roll, blues) because they are all too "simplistic" - you must have a very limite

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Points: 8548 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2004 at 12:15
Twelfth Night now there¦s crap for ya 

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Points: 8548 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2004 at 12:34
Or Pallas 
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2004 at 13:54

Hey -  I like Twelfth Night (and I've blagged Brian Devoil into giving me an exclusive interview for Progarchives...)

Although I realise that most tend to fall into one camp or another regarding those two bands. Twelfth Night preda

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Twelfth Night- now that's clearly an 80s sounding band. While I don't love the music, I'm fascinated with their combination of prog and minimalist post-punk influence. Extremely unique- good job getting the interview.
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I don't think the "Live at the Target" album (or any of the recordings prior to that) sounds 80's at all; It's somewhat Hillage/Hackett/Wishbone Ash/Ozric Tentacles (), as far as I can hear.

Listen

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Points: 8548 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2004 at 08:52
Well, I just do not like them, but then again It¦s just an opinion and we all know what they are worth  not much.
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2004 at 12:44

Even I can't argue with that!
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[QUOTE=Certif1ed]

I don't think the "Live at the Target" album (or any of the recordings prior to that) sounds 80's at all; It's somewhat Hillage/Hackett/Wishbone Ash/Ozric Tentacles (), as far as I can h

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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2004 at 17:39

"Fact and Fiction" is a great representation - although, as I said, a snapshot with 80s production filters. I don't think the band "relinquished control", rather succumbed to contemporary techniques - after all, they were representing and kick-starting

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