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Hanyou 
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 Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:12 |
 The T wrote:
And I'm quite sure you don't always even have to fire the gun to defend yourself or your family...
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Exactly. But for that to work, you have to be able to wound and even kill the intruder. At least, you have to create a fear of that, as a deterrent.
And that's actually pretty interesting. Obviously you guys gun laws are bad, but how about law saying everyone MUST have a gun? Are you on board with that? I mean it's the guvment telling the people what to do.
Even if this was a intended to be a mockery, I do believe there are are towns that have mandatory gun ownership. |
I've heard of that, but I've also heard those laws aren't usually enforced.
Either way, of course I don't believe in the government requiring anyone to own a gun. Personally, I don't own a gun, though I plan to eventually, and it's not really an investment I feel the need to make right now.
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:15 |
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Forcing US citizens to buy a gun is unconstitutional. Just like forcing US citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:16 |
JJLehto wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
As soon as the health care bill passed, I felt much better knowing the government will be taking care of me forever and I have nothing to worry about. :)
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lol so much trolling
And that's actually pretty interesting. Obviously you guys gun laws are bad, but how about law saying everyone MUST have a gun? Are you on board with that? I mean it's the guvment telling the people what to do.
Even if this was a intended to be a mockery, I do believe there are are towns that have mandatory gun ownership.
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It's just as bad as forbidding someone to have a gun. It's forcing people to act differently than they would like to, when the action does not harm others. It's tyrannical. Both of them rob freedom.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:17 |
Hanyou wrote:
The T wrote:
And I'm quite sure you don't always even have to fire the gun to defend yourself or your family...
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Exactly. But for that to work, you have to be able to wound and even kill the intruder. At least, you have to create a fear of that, as a deterrent. |
A couple of years ago I chased a purse snatcher through the woods and into some old man's yard. That punk would have kept right on trucking if that old man hadn't come out and fired into the air.
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Hanyou
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:20 |
Epignosis wrote:
Forcing US citizens to buy a gun is unconstitutional. Just like forcing US citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional.
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True, but there's also the fact that it's just plain wrong.
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:21 |
Epignosis wrote:
Forcing US citizens to buy a gun is unconstitutional. Just like forcing US citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional.
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Don't make me say again I hate that healthcare bill 
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:21 |
Epignosis wrote:
Hanyou wrote:
The T wrote:
And I'm quite sure you don't always even have to fire the gun to defend yourself or your family...
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Exactly. But for that to work, you have to be able to wound and even kill the intruder. At least, you have to create a fear of that, as a deterrent. |
A couple of years ago I chased a purse snatcher through the woods and into some old man's yard. That punk would have kept right on trucking if that old man hadn't come out and fired into the air.
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What were you doing carrying a purse??  
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:23 |
JJLehto wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Forcing US citizens to buy a gun is unconstitutional. Just like forcing US citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional.
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Don't make me say again I hate that healthcare bill
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Say it. The more people say it, the more chances there are to....
... f**k it this is just an internet forum. Anyway, say it nevertheless 
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Hanyou
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:25 |
The T wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Forcing US citizens to buy a gun is unconstitutional. Just like forcing US citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional.
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Don't make me say again I hate that healthcare bill
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Say it. The more people say it, the more chances there are to....
... f**k it this is just an internet forum. Anyway, say it nevertheless |
Easy to forget how insignificant these conversations are sometimes, isn't it?
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:25 |
I think I've said it enough k? But yeah it's pretty terrible. Cool thing is I can attack it from the left and right!  Edit: Yeah, internet debate is pretty silly isn't it? People who watched the other thread, and I suppose this one, probably think we're all fools.
Edited by JJLehto - February 03 2011 at 15:26
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:29 |
JJLehto wrote:
I think I've said it enough k?
But yeah it's pretty terrible.
Cool thing is I can attack it from the left and right!
Edit: Yeah, internet debate is pretty silly isn't it? People who watched the other thread, and I suppose this one, probably think we're all fools.
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And he never listens to them,
He knows that they're the fools
I actually truly believe that this thread is less foolish than the "pop vs prog" or "what makes prog better than pop" or "I'm an outcast if I don't like prog I don't have an identity" threads....
Edited by The T - February 03 2011 at 15:29
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:30 |
The T wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Hanyou wrote:
The T wrote:
And I'm quite sure you don't always even have to fire the gun to defend yourself or your family...
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Exactly. But for that to work, you have to be able to wound and even kill the intruder. At least, you have to create a fear of that, as a deterrent. |
A couple of years ago I chased a purse snatcher through the woods and into some old man's yard. That punk would have kept right on trucking if that old man hadn't come out and fired into the air.
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What were you doing carrying a purse??
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This guy told the police he found the purse in the bathroom and was trying to return it.
I asked "What were you doing in the ladies' room?" 
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:45 |
Who knows... Not allowing entrance to the ladies room to a man is discrimination...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 15:54 |
JJLehto wrote:
I think I've said it enough k?
But yeah it's pretty terrible.
Cool thing is I can attack it from the left and right!
Edit: Yeah, internet debate is pretty silly isn't it? People who watched the other thread, and I suppose this one, probably think we're all fools.
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Debating this is much less silly than people debating whether Close to the Edge is better than Relayer, or what the definition of prog should be.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 17:35 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
I think I've said it enough k?
But yeah it's pretty terrible.
Cool thing is I can attack it from the left and right!
Edit: Yeah, internet debate is pretty silly isn't it? People who watched the other thread, and I suppose this one, probably think we're all fools.
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Debating this is much less silly than people debating whether Close to the Edge is better than Relayer, or what the definition of prog should be.
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You have actually defined prog: excuse for people to debate whether Close to the Edge is better than Relayer and look smart in the process.
Edited by The T - February 03 2011 at 17:35
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 18:52 |
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 19:15 |
The T wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
JJLehto wrote:
I think I've said it enough k?
But yeah it's pretty terrible.
Cool thing is I can attack it from the left and right!
Edit: Yeah, internet debate is pretty silly isn't it? People who watched the other thread, and I suppose this one, probably think we're all fools.
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Debating this is much less silly than people debating whether Close to the Edge is better than Relayer, or what the definition of prog should be.
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You have actually defined prog: excuse for people to debate whether Close to the Edge is better than Relayer and look smart in the process.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 21:02 |
There are people who think Relayer is better?
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 Time always wins.
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 21:04 |
There are people who think Relayer is better?
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Time always wins.
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manofmystery
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Posted: February 03 2011 at 21:04 |
Double post?!?!
First Left 4 Dead and now, lagging here!
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Time always wins.
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