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Posted: June 15 2010 at 16:54
This weekend I had the opportunity to listen the Flaming Lips' complete version of Dark Side of the Moon. Again that makes me wonder, why aren't the Lips considered to be listed on this wonderful site? This is a fine interpretation of a timeless classic: every prog fan in the world should listen this great piece of music. Anyway, Please don't miss this!
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Posted: June 16 2010 at 01:48
I have Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots, it's one of my favourite albums
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Posted: June 16 2010 at 04:46
Manuelmoreno wrote:
This weekend I had the opportunity to listen the Flaming Lips' complete version of Dark Side of the Moon. Again that makes me wonder, why aren't the Lips considered to be listed on this wonderful site? This is a fine interpretation of a timeless classic: every prog fan in the world should listen this great piece of music. Anyway, Please don't miss this!
it's a wonderful album, i like how it's not too samey to the original. by the way it's not just flaming lips it's them and another band called stardeath and white dwarfs.
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Posted: June 16 2010 at 12:52
I was really impressed with Embryonic. I will merge this topic (has to be done post by post) with the last one since it's better to keep to one suggestion thread if possible (multiple open threads on the same subject in the same forum are discouraged). Manuel, it would have been better to bump your old topic. EDIT: merged.
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Posted: June 16 2010 at 13:05
Prog related at best. If the band Started in 1997 with Zaireeka, it would be easy to say they're prog related. Turns out that most of their albums are weird alternative rock and nothing more in the way of prog.
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Posted: June 16 2010 at 13:34
stonebeard wrote:
Prog related at best. If the band Started in 1997 with Zaireeka, it would be easy to say they're prog related. Turns out that most of their albums are weird alternative rock and nothing more in the way of prog.
I'm no Flaming Lips expert, but would have thought based on Embryonic, Zaireeka, and The Soft Bulletin
that there was a significant musical case for the band in PA. I think
it matters more where the band ended up in this case than where it
started -- and I prefer to evaluate PA value based on individual albums than whole careers anyway. Prog-Related has its own way of operating, but I really thought that the band had Crossover Prog merit (and it's often said that if at least one album is appropriate, then the band should not be excluded -- that's my view, but others look at it differently).
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Posted: June 16 2010 at 14:41
Havent heard them at all, so I can't have a personal opinion but I've been hearing alot of things about them being 'new prog' so there must be something there...
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 19:28
Manuelmoreno wrote:
Everybody in this prog community should listen to Embryonic (2009). Fantastic music, experimental, catchy and very very proggie... well, at least to my ears. You should give it a chance.
I picked 'Embryonic' up from the library. I hate to say, but honestly one of the worst pieces of garbage I've ever listened to. Its just listless electronic noise with some indie whining and a few psychedelic effects thrown in for good measure.
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Posted: June 17 2010 at 21:38
Conor Fynes wrote:
Manuelmoreno wrote:
Everybody in this prog community should listen to Embryonic (2009). Fantastic music, experimental, catchy and very very proggie... well, at least to my ears. You should give it a chance.
I picked 'Embryonic' up from the library. I hate to say, but honestly one of the worst pieces of garbage I've ever listened to. Its just listless electronic noise with some indie whining and a few psychedelic effects thrown in for good measure.
Don't you think you are being totalitarian with your comments? So you didn't like it; that's fine. A helluva lot of people loved it, and it was named as one of the best albums of the year by many publications and readers alike. I'd guess that you probably aren't a big fan of Miles Davis' "In a Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew," nor of Can's albums such as "Tago Mago" and "Ege Bamyasi"; inscrutable weirdness like Syd Barrett's work; or sprawling lofi monsters like Guided by Voices' "Bee Thousand." The album is nearly a homage to late-60s early 70s psychedelia. I suspect that the Flaming Lips are drawing from an entire range of influences that don't float your boat. The sound of "garbage" that you dismiss is a musical aesthetic welcome by many and explored by bands from the Velvent Underground to the Birthday Party to Sonic Youth, My Bloody Valentine, and so on.
The Lips' next move was to re-make Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon." However, as some critics have noted, the Lips were at their most "Floydian" during their previous phase, with "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" (a masterpiece, alone with "The Soft Bulletin"), "At War with the Mystics" (not a masterpiece), and the ambient, Eno-like soundtrack "Christmas On Mars."
It's not my favorite Lips album, I don't put it on that often, but I'll defend peoples' right to love the album, and I do believe it's a work of art.
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 00:05
YES ADD THEM NOW
They had a concept album called "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" and most of you already know that! What other genre besides prog accepts a concept album with that kind of title?!
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 00:10
^^ Come on comparing FL to Floyd just because they played DSOTM is hilarious. I love FL but I do accept the overall view that now just maybe they will be considered for Prog Related ( as per Mercury Rev)
To me At War With The Mystics and Embryonic are now more prog related than their psychedielic predecessors which at one time I felt filled the Xover niche.
So to support Jude111 , CF to dismiss their material as garbage from a one night library stand is a bit unfair too
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 00:11
You're all forgetting the four disc album they made where you were supposed to get four stereoes and play all four discs simultaneously. TAKE THAT, DARK SIDE OF THE MOON/WIZARD OF OZ SYNC-UP!
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 00:18
Textbook wrote:
You're all forgetting the four disc album they made where you were supposed to get four stereoes and play all four discs simultaneously. TAKE THAT, DARK SIDE OF THE MOON/WIZARD OF OZ SYNC-UP!
I'm not, and it's easily their most progressive styled album too. Yoshimi has prog flourishes, At War With the Mystics has a few prog songs, and Embryonic does to and with a psychedelic prog aesthetics, but IMO it doesn't outweigh how very unprog they were from 83-96.
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 00:24
jude111 wrote:
Conor Fynes wrote:
Manuelmoreno wrote:
Everybody in this prog community should listen to Embryonic (2009). Fantastic music, experimental, catchy and very very proggie... well, at least to my ears. You should give it a chance.
I picked 'Embryonic' up from the library. I hate to say, but honestly one of the worst pieces of garbage I've ever listened to. Its just listless electronic noise with some indie whining and a few psychedelic effects thrown in for good measure.
Don't you think you are being totalitarian with your comments? So you didn't like it; that's fine. A helluva lot of people loved it, and it was named as one of the best albums of the year by many publications and readers alike. I'd guess that you probably aren't a big fan of Miles Davis' "In a Silent Way" and "Bitches Brew," nor of Can's albums such as "Tago Mago" and "Ege Bamyasi"; inscrutable weirdness like Syd Barrett's work; or sprawling lofi monsters like Guided by Voices' "Bee Thousand." The album is nearly a homage to late-60s early 70s psychedelia. I suspect that the Flaming Lips are drawing from an entire range of influences that don't float your boat. The sound of "garbage" that you dismiss is a musical aesthetic welcome by many and explored by bands from the Velvent Underground to the Birthday Party to Sonic Youth, My Bloody Valentine, and so on.
The Lips' next move was to re-make Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon." However, as some critics have noted, the Lips were at their most "Floydian" during their previous phase, with "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" (a masterpiece, alone with "The Soft Bulletin"), "At War with the Mystics" (not a masterpiece), and the ambient, Eno-like soundtrack "Christmas On Mars."
It's not my favorite Lips album, I don't put it on that often, but I'll defend peoples' right to love the album, and I do believe it's a work of art.
Alright, I appreciate your comments and opinion but I know what I like. The artists that you listed that I'm familiar with, I'm actually a big fan of. And maybe I wasn't right to dismiss it as total 'garbage.' There were parts that had potential, but it feels really unrealized and scattered all over. Parts of it were excrutiating though, especially the song about the frog that has the woman talking through the phone on it.
I definately think the band should be added because they're doing stuff that most other bands aren't doing, but that doesn't mean I have to enjoy it. I'm just saying it was a real, real chore to get through the entire thing.
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 02:28
Conor Fynes wrote:
Manuelmoreno wrote:
Everybody in this prog community should listen to Embryonic (2009). Fantastic music, experimental, catchy and very very proggie... well, at least to my ears. You should give it a chance.
I picked 'Embryonic' up from the library. I hate to say, but honestly one of the worst pieces of garbage I've ever listened to. Its just listless electronic noise with some indie whining and a few psychedelic effects thrown in for good measure.
I don't think Embryonic is a good place to start with the lips. I really got into them after hearing Clouds Taste Metallic. I heard Yoshimi and really disliked that the first time, but eventually after I acquanted myself with their early albums such as Clouds Taste Metallic, Priest Driven Ambulance, and Transmissions from the Satellite Heart I began to appreciate everything they have done, except for maybe telepathic surgery.
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Posted: June 18 2010 at 03:27
Hey MusicForSpeedin, I'll take that into mind. I've been told their sound varies alot, so I'm going to take your advice and check out some of their earlier stuff. Hell, maybe a few more listens to Embryonic might lend a bit more apprecation for it.
I'm not, and it's easily their most progressive styled album too. Yoshimi has prog flourishes, At War With the Mystics has a few prog songs, and Embryonic does to and with a psychedelic prog aesthetics, but IMO it doesn't outweigh how very unprog they were from 83-96.
I thought there was a rule saying that one prog album is sufficient?
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