How often do you listen to non-prog rock/metal?

90% of the time.

70-90 percent of the time.

I'm just curious...do you think only of music you're willingly listening to, or you count also the music I'm forced to hear, such is radio station while I'm working?

Henry Plainview wrote: Philéas wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: I would agree, just not in rock music. ;-) Which I hope is what you were voting in accordance with. You've been listening to the wrong rock music then. I doubt it. Classic rock and  indie are boring. :P

There's so much more under the rock umbrella than just "classic rock" and indie stuff. Also, there's a tremendous variety of music categorized as indie (which makes it a pretty redundant tag, in my opinion), a lot of which the indie kids on here don't know about. My point being that the more or less mainstream indie bands hyped in this forum definitely don't represent the whole variety of styles filed under the indie tag. I can't come up with any proper recommendations because I'm not sure what you like in music, and I assume you're uninterested anyway. But I feel it's important to make this point.

Also, please do look outside indie and "classic rock" (which is as stupid a tag as indie). There's a lot of variety to be found if you only bother looking closely.

I hope I don't come across as overly confrontational or preachy...


Edited by Philéas - December 07 2008 at 10:21

I am almost 95% of the time listening to prog , I just happen to put on a DreamTheater CD for a change time after time.

Seeing that I listen to a lot of Stratovarius I listen to about 50% of the time to Bands on Progarchives. Love Dylan and Springsteen as well.

Odd as this sounds, I have no interest in the label 'Prog Rock'. It seems to have been taken on board as a generic term in much the same way as 'Indie' has been hijacked in the last 20 years to label a certain section of the music industry. Indie was a term used 25 years ago to describe independant record  labels but was turned into a musical ghetto, where music industry executives dumped creative bands when they didn't know how to market them. 'Prog Rock' seems to have been b*****dised over 35 years to not mean music that is 'progressive' but that is constructed in a certain way and has little to do with progression.

However, What I would like to look at is maybe where rock music meets the avante garde. Not music that has a 'classical' element, that has been going for 40 years and doesn't, in my less than humble opinion, indicate 'progression'.

I wrote a review of a Rare Bird LP on this very site. I was the only positive reviewer. No problem with that, we like what we like. However, if you look at the rest of the reviews, the biggest bone of contention seems to be that they had changed musical direction. They were not playing the quasi classical organ driven music of 4 years previously. They had actually progressed! They had moved on and did something different for them, but were slated for it! Prog rock? Nah, not for me.

Now,  I can hear the cry, 'what is this bloke doing here'!?

Well how about progressive musicians like John Cale? He'd be mortified to be lumped in with Rick Wakeman but he was still instrumental in the genius of 'Venus in Furs' by The Velvet Underground. The velvets prog rock? Good greif no, but as inventive as any 'prog' band that ever existed. Faust prog rock? Nah, Can? Nope. But all made challenging music that has been hugely influetial down the years. You want progressive?

Ever tried to listen to 'Trout Mask Replica' by Captain Beefheart from beggining to end? Doubtful, but a work of utter genius, not matched by any recording to this day. Prog rock? Nope.

So, hopefully you can see why I have no time for the label 'Prog Rock'. Infact I believe most labels to be unhelpful to creativity of any kind.

Surely progressive over the last 20 years has meant people like 'Goldie' or 'Orbital'?

I voted 50% of the time. Probably more if prog related and proto prog bands doesn't count (Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Beatles, Who, Bowie, etc). I love rock music in general, not just prog. I like bands that have nothing to do with prog at all, like The Rolling Stones, Nirvana, Oasis, Bob Dylan and a lot more. I listen to those bands as much as Pink Floyd, ELP or Genesis.

Edited by SgtPepper67 - December 17 2008 at 15:44

If The Beatles, Zeppelin, and other bands like that count as prog, then almost never. If they don't then count 10%. I listen to jazz, some Bee Gees (good pop music), country, and Simon and Garfunkel on occasion, but only like 7 or 8 percent of the time.