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Topic: How often do you listen to non-prog rock/metal?
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Subject: How often do you listen to non-prog rock/metal?
Date Posted: December 01 2008 at 23:25
Approximately speaking. ;-) This is not about non-prog music, it is about non-prog ROCK.
 
NOTE: For the purposes of this poll, proto-prog/prog related do not count as prog, so adjust your internal measuring devices accordingly. You are allowed to not count music you think should be in the archives, as long as your opinion is not wildly and obviously incorrect.
 
SECOND NOTE: Unlike all my other posts, this poll is not elitist; I'm just curious. ;-)
 
THIRD NOTE: My answer is 10% at the most.
 
FINAL NOTE: Do you think the results of this poll will be biased by its being in General Music rather than Prog Lounge?


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 01 2008 at 23:32
my buddy Dan has a wide range of music from classical to jazz to pop (he also loves prog), so when I visit him it's a good chance to indulge in all sorts of music.. so we'll hear some James Brown or Leo Kottke or Honneger or Cat Stevens, just good music generally, so I'd say about 10 % non Prog






Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 01 2008 at 23:39
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

my buddy Dan has a wide range of music from classical to jazz to pop (he also loves prog), so when I visit him it's a good chance to indulge in all sorts of music.. so we'll hear some James Brown or Leo Kottke or Honneger or Cat Stevens, just good music generally, so I'd say about 10 % non Prog
I should have added, I listen to plenty of non-prog, just not non-prog rock. And the purpose of this poll is not to demean eclectic tastes, or even liking AC/DC Wink, just to satisfy an internal curiousity sparked by things I have seen said.
 
Also, I've been listening to Honneger lately on your advice, and he has another fan. DISSONANCE IS KING! Wink


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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 01 2008 at 23:54

i only listen to smooth atonal sounds



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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 00:03
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

i only listen to smooth atonal sounds

Kenny G recorded free jazz when I wasn't looking!?


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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 00:16
20%


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 00:57
Wow, I surprised myself.
I was about to vote 50 per cent, then I realized I spend about 8 hours a day on average listening to music and more of the rock/metal I listen to daily is prog rock/metal than I realized.
20 per cent would be about it.


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 00:58
And Plainview my boy, using actual graphic emoticons just isn't your style:P

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 01:01
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

And Plainview my boy, using actual graphic emoticons just isn't your style:P
I know, I thought I'd switch things up. That's why I listen to avant-garde music: I value unpredictability over all else, even if it's annoying.


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 02:21
Probably just under 50% of my listening time, at the moment, is taken up with non prog.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 02:28
I'd say 60%ish of my listening is non prog, be it folk, jazz, electronica or even Iron Maiden

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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 02:52
Recently, like 70 or 80%. Embarrassed
But usually, i'd say it's about 50 prog & 50 non-prog, or 60 prog & 40 non-prog.


Posted By: easytargets
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 02:55
I am sinking into prog every single day, but when I have some spare time (in these days it´s most of the time as I´m unemployed) I get romantic with myself and ought to go with my beginnins in rock music, death, nu,trash metal, jazz,some spanish punk,...
You know, even if you´re most into prog you can´t deny your rock roots, though
I´m always wanting to explore more and more of this marvellous prog universe


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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 04:23
If we're talking about non-prog ROCK, I would estimate it's around 40-50 %. With non-prog MUSIC, it'd probably go up to 70 %.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 05:17
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

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Also, I've been listening to Honegger lately on your advice, and he has another fan. DISSONANCE IS KING! Wink


oh cool, I just heard his Pacific 231   ..amazing




Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 05:39
I'd say that three out every ten albums I hear are non-prog. A selection of hard rock, metal and the prog-related and proto-prog bands that brought me to the site.

So 30%.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 12:48
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I'd say 60%ish of my listening is non prog, be it folk, jazz, electronica or even Iron Maiden
But I'm not asking if you listen to folk, jazz, or electronica, I'm asking if you're listening to non-prog rock! Doesn't anyone read the entire question!?
Originally posted by easytargets easytargets wrote:

You know, even if you´re most into prog you can´t deny your rock roots, though
I absolutely can!


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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 23:16
I'd say around %40, but that's a guess. I listen to plenty of Nine Inch Nails, Buckethead, Zeppelin, and tons of Metal. But I'm relatively new to prog, so that number is continually going down.

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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 05:17
I don't have a last.fm and I'm too tired to keep that many statistics about listening habits, but for me it's right now split more or less 50-50 between prog rock/metal and rock/metal whose connections to prog are at best second-hand in some way and at worst tenuous.


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:04
It can vary. If I'm stuck up with a new Prog band, then I'll barely listen to Hard Rock/Fusion/Pop/etc.

In a average, it mus be 50% Hard Rock(including Heavy Prog), and 50% Prog. In the middle of each there are some Jazz Fusion, Pop, Alt Rock, others..


Posted By: Sunny In Jeddah
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:30
I usually go through a yearly phase where I listen to nothing but rap for a couple weeks, and then another where I listen to nothing but sticky bubble-gum pop.
 
Other than that it's pretty much some form of Prog all the time.


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Posted By: Jozef
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:37
Hmm....I guess I'd say about 40% of the time. 

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 11:56
Strangely, when I don't listen to "classic" progressive, R.I.O. or that kind of stuff, I enjoy hardcore punk or death metal. Barely mainstream rock, yet not prog at all.


Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 12:01
I dunno, i just said 50-50. I don't count what I listen to, nor do I make sure that I listen to X-MANY prog albums in one day. I just listen to what I listen to and if it's prog then... okay.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 13:06
Somewhere between 0 and 10%.


Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 13:17
Pfeh. Quite a bit. A touch of jazz, pop, classical or rock every now and then.


Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 15:41
90 % of the time, even though I consider myself to be on a "prog high" right now. There's so much good music outside Prog that deserves attention too. 


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 20:29
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

nor do I make sure that I listen to X-MANY prog albums in one day.
I don't think anyone does.
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

90 % of the time, even though I consider myself to be on a "prog high" right now. There's so much good music outside Prog that deserves attention too. 
I would agree, just not in rock music. ;-) Which I hope is what you were voting in accordance with.Stern Smile


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 23:05
I'm guessing around 70-80% of the time I'm not listening to prog.  Have been sticking to Jazz mostly, but when I'm not there it'll be some prog or folk or some other great music exploration.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 05:20
Less than 10% to be honest.

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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 05:33
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

nor do I make sure that I listen to X-MANY prog albums in one day.
I don't think anyone does.
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

90 % of the time, even though I consider myself to be on a "prog high" right now. There's so much good music outside Prog that deserves attention too. 
I would agree, just not in rock music. ;-) Which I hope is what you were voting in accordance with.Stern Smile


Ha-ha! It seems Sunny in Jeddah, TMG: Orb & BroSpence got the question wrong, too.

I'm guessing I listen to about 10-15 % rock.

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 06:46
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

I'm guessing around 70-80% of the time I'm not listening to prog.  Have been sticking to Jazz mostly, but when I'm not there it'll be some prog or folk or some other great music exploration.
I swear to God

do people just read the first 2/3 of the original question and move on

it's not like it's a very long sentence

or I didn't bold a reiteration of that sentence at the beginning of my post

so I guess I can see why you thought I was asking if you listened to Jazz


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 04 2008 at 20:47
Do you think the results of this poll will be biased by its being in General Music rather than Prog Lounge?

Eh, didn't change anything for me anyway.


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Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 02:38
I'd say about 50%, which, considering all the other music I have eg Classical, brass/military bands, other rock etc it is pretty high for one genre.


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 23:03
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

I'm guessing around 70-80% of the time I'm not listening to prog.  Have been sticking to Jazz mostly, but when I'm not there it'll be some prog or folk or some other great music exploration.
I swear to God

do people just read the first 2/3 of the original question and move on

it's not like it's a very long sentence

or I didn't bold a reiteration of that sentence at the beginning of my post

so I guess I can see why you thought I was asking if you listened to Jazz
 
Well plenty of people just read the title of the thread and post, as lazy as people can be. That's why it's important to create a good title. Maybe as an alternative title for this thread could be "How often do you listen to Rock/Metal that isn't prog?"


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 05 2008 at 23:29
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

I'm guessing around 70-80% of the time I'm not listening to prog.  Have been sticking to Jazz mostly, but when I'm not there it'll be some prog or folk or some other great music exploration.
I swear to God

do people just read the first 2/3 of the original question and move on

it's not like it's a very long sentence

or I didn't bold a reiteration of that sentence at the beginning of my post

so I guess I can see why you thought I was asking if you listened to Jazz
 
Well plenty of people just read the title of the thread and post, as lazy as people can be. That's why it's important to create a good title. Maybe as an alternative title for this thread could be "How often do you listen to Rock/Metal that isn't prog?"
Then people would be saying "Yeah, I listen to prog all the time". I remember a while ago, there was a (admittedly useless) poll asking what your least favorite of the big 3 was, and half of the people were like "I love King Crimson!" And I was like Stern Smile
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Do you think the results of this poll will be biased by its being in General Music rather than Prog Lounge?

Eh, didn't change anything for me anyway.
I was asking whether it would cause different types of people to respond, making it not an accurate sample of PA, not whether or not the title of the forum would subliminally affect your answer. ;-) Then again, I didn't anticipate a significant amount of people reading the first 1/3 of the question and moving right on to vote and post.


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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 01:13
50%



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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 04:08
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I would agree, just not in rock music. ;-) Which I hope is what you were voting in accordance with.Stern Smile


You've been listening to the wrong rock music then. Smile




Posted By: Gentlegiantprog
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 13:25
Every year before 2007 = prog 5%, not prog 95%
2007 = Prog 40%, Not Prog 60%
2008 = Prog 50% Not Prog 50%


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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 06 2008 at 13:27
I voted 40%- but I think that was a mistake- according to my last fm charts- it's mostly Prog- so I have no idea why the hell I put 40%.

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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 02:11
90% of the time.

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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 02:24
52.9756439% of the time. No seriously there is tonnes of really good sh*t outthere.

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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 02:26
70-90 percent of the time.

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 02:34
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I would agree, just not in rock music. ;-) Which I hope is what you were voting in accordance with.Stern Smile


You've been listening to the wrong rock music then. Smile
I doubt it. Classic rock and  indie are boring. :P


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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 07:54
I'm just curious...do you think only of music you're willingly listening to, or you count also the music I'm forced to hear, such is radio station while I'm working?

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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 07:59
Non-prog metal - about 10% of the time, almost exclusively death/black metal of the most extreme variety.

Non-prog rock - umm... 1% of the time? I'd struggle to name more than a few rock bands I enjoy, A Perfect Circle, Queens of the Stone Age... umm, classic Deep Purple sometimes...

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

I'm just curious...do you think only of music you're willingly listening to, or you count also the music I'm forced to hear, such is radio station while I'm working?


I'm guessing the former. This poll is more about personal taste.


Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 07 2008 at 10:19
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I would agree, just not in rock music. ;-) Which I hope is what you were voting in accordance with.Stern Smile


You've been listening to the wrong rock music then. Smile
I doubt it. Classic rock and  indie are boring. :P


There's so much more under the rock umbrella than just "classic rock" and indie stuff. Also, there's a tremendous variety of music categorized as indie (which makes it a pretty redundant tag, in my opinion), a lot of which the indie kids on here don't know about. My point being that the more or less mainstream indie bands hyped in this forum definitely don't represent the whole variety of styles filed under the indie tag. I can't come up with any proper recommendations because I'm not sure what you like in music, and I assume you're uninterested anyway. But I feel it's important to make this point.

Also, please do look outside indie and "classic rock" (which is as stupid a tag as indie). There's a lot of variety to be found if you only bother looking closely. Smile

I hope I don't come across as overly confrontational or preachy...


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 08 2008 at 23:02
Probably between 0 and 10% of the time.
 
If I'm listening to non-prog it is rarely rock/metal...especially nowadays.


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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: December 09 2008 at 19:20

I am almost 95% of the time listening to prog , I just happen to put on a DreamTheater CD for a change time after time.



Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 16:54
Probably 50% of the time given what i consider prog, but by this site's definition its probably around 25%, voted for 50% though since my definition is correct.

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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 16:57
Seeing that I listen to a lot of Stratovarius I listen to about 50% of the time to Bands on Progarchives. Love Dylan and Springsteen as well.

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: December 12 2008 at 21:14
It all depends on what I've picked up lately, or stumbled onto (say in a PA MP3 sample).
Currently, I'm completing my Floyd collection (thanks to NEro and its noise correction - LPs). So I've been listening to a lot of them, along with some french prog. But I've also started playing ball hockey, so I usually play hard rock. metal on the way there.
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Posted By: Lost Follower
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 07:32
Odd as this sounds, I have no interest in the label 'Prog Rock'. It seems to have been taken on board as a generic term in much the same way as 'Indie' has been hijacked in the last 20 years to label a certain section of the music industry. Indie was a term used 25 years ago to describe independant record  labels but was turned into a musical ghetto, where music industry executives dumped creative bands when they didn't know how to market them. 'Prog Rock' seems to have been b*****dised over 35 years to not mean music that is 'progressive' but that is constructed in a certain way and has little to do with progression.

However, What I would like to look at is maybe where rock music meets the avante garde. Not music that has a 'classical' element, that has been going for 40 years and doesn't, in my less than humble opinion, indicate 'progression'.

I wrote a review of a Rare Bird LP on this very site. I was the only positive reviewer. No problem with that, we like what we like. However, if you look at the rest of the reviews, the biggest bone of contention seems to be that they had changed musical direction. They were not playing the quasi classical organ driven music of 4 years previously. They had actually progressed! They had moved on and did something different for them, but were slated for it! Prog rock? Nah, not for me.

Now,  I can hear the cry, 'what is this bloke doing here'!?

Well how about progressive musicians like John Cale? He'd be mortified to be lumped in with Rick Wakeman but he was still instrumental in the genius of 'Venus in Furs' by The Velvet Underground. The velvets prog rock? Good greif no, but as inventive as any 'prog' band that ever existed. Faust prog rock? Nah, Can? Nope. But all made challenging music that has been hugely influetial down the years. You want progressive?

Ever tried to listen to 'Trout Mask Replica' by Captain Beefheart from beggining to end? Doubtful, but a work of utter genius, not matched by any recording to this day. Prog rock? Nope.

So, hopefully you can see why I have no time for the label 'Prog Rock'. Infact I believe most labels to be unhelpful to creativity of any kind.

Surely progressive over the last 20 years has meant people like 'Goldie' or 'Orbital'?


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 14:10
Lately it's been 90-10 in favor of non-prog, mostly black metal... (and some death)...
 
Usually it's like 70-30 in favor of prog. Now the tides have changed.


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Posted By: SgtPepper67
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 15:40
I voted 50% of the time. Probably more if prog related and proto prog bands doesn't count (Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Beatles, Who, Bowie, etc). I love rock music in general, not just prog. I like bands that have nothing to do with prog at all, like The Rolling Stones, Nirvana, Oasis, Bob Dylan and a lot more. I listen to those bands as much as Pink Floyd, ELP or Genesis.

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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: December 17 2008 at 23:40

Probably about 99.99% of the time.LOL

Forgive me, but I've changed soamuch since I registered here. I still like it, just don't listen to it.Wink



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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 17:50
If The Beatles, Zeppelin, and other bands like that count as prog, then almost never. If they don't then count 10%. I listen to jazz, some Bee Gees (good pop music), country, and Simon and Garfunkel on occasion, but only like 7 or 8 percent of the time.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: December 19 2008 at 17:52
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

I am almost 95% of the time listening to prog , I just happen to put on a DreamTheater CD for a change time after time.



Dream Theater is prog buddy.




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