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Points: 900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 12:40
The endings of Devin Townsend's Wild Colonial Boy and Ayreon's Ye Courtyard Minstrel Boy. They are almost identical--and they're singing almost identical lyrics, too! Check it out. Makes me laugh every time, though I doubt Devin truly ripped off Ayreon in any way. Seems like coincidence to me.
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Did anyone else notice that Queensryche's "Silent Lucidity" sounds an awful lot like Pink Floyd's "Mother," or is it just me?
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Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Let's not forget the mother of all rip-offs.  Led Zep's Stairway to Heaven (you've perhaps heard that song LOL) is a flat-out lift of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album.  But then Zep was never shy about uncredited appropriation.
 
Neither were ELP:
The Barbarian (from Bartok)
The Only Way (from J.S. Bach)
Touch And Go (from Vaughan-Williams)
 
Mussorgsky and Prokofiev somehow got credited. Must be that Russian take-no-prisoners attitude. Angry 
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not to forget "Knife Edge", which is taken from Leoš Janáček's "Sinfonietta"


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I am always noticing similarities between songs by prog artists. I always take a look at these lists and am consistently shocked to never see a mention of a very obvious case of a band basing their sound on another band. Altough I love Genesis, they sound almost exactly like a slightly updated verision of Procol Harum. As a matter of fact, the opening chords to Supper's Ready are nearly identical to Procol's A Salty Dog. The classical keyboard, the guitar's role as basically a solo instrument, the soulful delivery of their singers, the multi-part suites, odd times  etc. are present in both bands. The only other person I hear as firmly implanted in the music of Genesis is Steve Winwood. His work with Traffic in the 60s was apparently a giant influence on Peter Gabriel's voice.

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Originally posted by Draith Draith wrote:

Did anyone else notice that Queensryche's "Silent Lucidity" sounds an awful lot like Pink Floyd's "Mother," or is it just me?
 
I assume this is a joke. I love Queensryche but that song is such a blatant rip on Pink Floyd as to be cringe-inducing. The I-I-I that is taken straight from "Comfortably Numb" goes beyond homage. The fact that it made them a gazillion dollars in an era when every metal band seemed to make a bundle off of a sellout song on their albums "To Be With You" being the worst, "More than Words" was at least a half way interesting song.
 
Then again, I might be willing to play Pink Floyd songs in front of people for a gazillion dollars. Maybe I need a new job.
 


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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Let's not forget the mother of all rip-offs.  Led Zep's Stairway to Heaven (you've perhaps heard that song LOL) is a flat-out lift of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album.  But then Zep was never shy about uncredited appropriation.
 
Neither were ELP:
The Barbarian (from Bartok)
The Only Way (from J.S. Bach)
Touch And Go (from Vaughan-Williams)
 
Mussorgsky and Prokofiev somehow got credited. Must be that Russian take-no-prisoners attitude. Angry 
Do right or you're Dead.

not to forget "Knife Edge", which is taken from Leoš Janáček's "Sinfonietta"

 
You're right; I had this nagging feeling I'd forgotten something. . .Ermm
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Sorry I can't remember the specifics, but one of the songs of the newest Dream Theater album (assuming that that's still Systematic Chaos) steals heavily from 'Natural Science,' by Rush.
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Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Another interesting one: 'Child in Time' by Deep Purple and 'Bombay Calling' by It's a Beautiful Day.
'Bombay Calling' was first...

 
Yeah in fact Jon Lord states that they ripped off the main riff of that song, only playing more slow...




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Achilles Last Stand from Led Zeppelin

and

the whole Iron Maiden

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Nobody except me noticed the very beggining of from the begining (ELP) and the very beggining of Roundabout are almost the same thing?
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Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Let's not forget the mother of all rip-offs.  Led Zep's Stairway to Heaven (you've perhaps heard that song LOL) is a flat-out lift of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album.  But then Zep was never shy about uncredited appropriation.
 
Neither were ELP:
The Barbarian (from Bartok)
The Only Way (from J.S. Bach)
Touch And Go (from Vaughan-Williams)
 
Mussorgsky and Prokofiev somehow got credited. Must be that Russian take-no-prisoners attitude. Angry 
Do right or you're Dead.

not to forget "Knife Edge", which is taken from Leoš Janáček's "Sinfonietta"

 
You're right; I had this nagging feeling I'd forgotten something. . .Ermm
 
Yep, ELP were pretty good at it themselves.  I knew about The Barbarian, but didn't know about Knife Edge. 
 
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Let's not forget the mother of all rip-offs.  Led Zep's Stairway to Heaven (you've perhaps heard that song LOL) is a flat-out lift of Spirit's Taurus, from their first album.  But then Zep was never shy about uncredited appropriation.
 
Neither were ELP:
The Barbarian (from Bartok)
The Only Way (from J.S. Bach)
Touch And Go (from Vaughan-Williams)
 
Mussorgsky and Prokofiev somehow got credited. Must be that Russian take-no-prisoners attitude. Angry 
Do right or you're Dead.

not to forget "Knife Edge", which is taken from Leoš Janáček's "Sinfonietta"

 
You're right; I had this nagging feeling I'd forgotten something. . .Ermm
 
Yep, ELP were pretty good at it themselves.  I knew about The Barbarian, but didn't know about Knife Edge. 
 


There is a huge difference between just outright stealing and adapting a symphonic movement and listing credit. ELP made their sources very clear in the album lit.  LZ just played and sang old blues tunes word for word with little acknowledgment, or none if they didn't have to.(Willie dixon gets credit for a couple)

And.... another example of using a classical piece is the intro to Deep Purple's version of I'm So Glad which is derived from Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherazade.  I don't have a copy of Shades anymore, so I don't know if they gave credit.  Anybody else know?

And veering back to the original prog vs prog scenario, Maxaphone has a keyboard passage on   Al Mancato Compleanno Di una Faffalla that comes straight from ELP's Tarkus at the end of Stones of years. The song Fase has got numerous King Crimson passages, the most obvious come from Pictures of a City. It sounds more like an homage than immitation.

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[/QUOTE]

There is a huge difference between just outright stealing and adapting a symphonic movement and listing credit. ELP made their sources very clear in the album lit.  [/QUOTE]
 
From Wikipedia:

"[For Emerson, Lake & Palmer] the band used lengthy note-for-note extracts from composers including Bach, Janáček, and Bartók.

"Although the composition of the first track, 'Barbarian', is attributed to the three band members, it is effectively an arrangement for rock band of Bartók’s 1911 piano piece, Allegro Barbaro. The third track, 'Knife Edge', is based on the first movement of Janáček’s Sinfonietta (1926) with an instrumental middle section that includes an extended quotation from the Allemande of Johann Sebastian Bach's first French Suite in D minor, BWV 812, but played on an organ rather than clavichord or piano. None of these quotations were attributed on the original album release.

"With Emerson, Lake & Powell, the main theme to Touch & Go is identical to the English Folk Song Lovely Joan, better known as the counterpoint tune in Ralph Vaughan Williams 'Fantasia on Greensleeves' Not credited."

Just to set the record straight.

Perhaps on subsequent cuttings, credit was attributed, but not originally.
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Sieges Even Steps - A Tangerine Window of Solace IV , the last 10 seconds always reminded me of Jacobs Ladder...

And some 90's-b (or c?) Prog: Ines - "Hunting the Fox" , the main theme in "In the Distance" is a rip-off of IQs "Leap of Faith", but thats fine, as nobody really knows that album anyway LOL .
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Originally posted by Coolcosmos Coolcosmos wrote:

Nobody except me noticed the very beggining of from the begining (ELP) and the very beggining of Roundabout are almost the same thing?
 
Good one. Try also comparing "Roundabout" and the start of "Will O' The Wisp" (from Beginnings). Of course, Howe is only stealing from himself.
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Originally posted by Coolcosmos Coolcosmos wrote:

Nobody except me noticed the very beggining of from the begining (ELP) and the very beggining of Roundabout are almost the same thing?
 
No ! I did not notice. I'm going to check it today !
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Anyone noticed that the guitar lick at the end of "Fairies Wear Boots" by Black Sabbath are pretty much the same as the one in the intro to "For Whom the Bell Tolls" by Metallica? Wink
(Might be in a diffrent key, but still!)

And the intro to "Sole Survivor" by Asia keeps reminding me of "The Gates of Delirium" by Yes.


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i don't know whether anyone else from the uk noticed how the DFS furniture store tune sounded like a complete rip-off of Porcupine Tree's Arriving Somewhere But Not Here

Also the Theater get dangerously close to plaguerism in Octavarium on numerous occasions (Muse, for example)
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Mike Keneally's "Day of the Cow 2" burst into a humorously demented Enter Sandman (by Metallica)reminiscent riff halfway through the song. Definitely intentional, as Enter Sandman was recorded in 1991 and Day of the Cow in 1992.
 
 
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12 tones and 500 years of using them- things have got to repeat.
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