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Posted: December 07 2007 at 04:16

Josepet wrote:

prog related is another way of saying they are nor prog.

Until you suggest a well-known band with many elements of prog in their music for the prog related category. All of a sudden a bunch of people who should know better show up to tell you that they aren't prog.

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Posted: December 07 2007 at 05:16

Whatever you say, but the same name says it all.

Prog Related = Related to Prog= Drawer where you can put anything.

But that has been discussed before, with no agreement, and it wasn't my intention to start again.

I humbly apologise, really.

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Posted: December 07 2007 at 19:29

Are there some 20+ minute songs on the list?

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Posted: December 07 2007 at 23:13

nuncjusz wrote:

Are there some 20+ minute songs on the list?

Don't think so...

If anyone didn't see, the list is this:

Allman Brothers Band - "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed"
Bauhaus - "Bela Lugosi's Dead"
Beastie Boys - "B-Boy Bouillabaisse"
Beatles - "Hey Jude"
Black Sabbath - "War Pigs/Luke's Wall"
Blur - "Tender"
Can - "Bel Air"
The Cure - "Pictures of You"
David Bowie - "Station to Station"
Derek & the Dominoes - "Layla"
The Doors - "The End"
Bob Dylan - "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands"
Funkadelic - "Maggot Brain"
Grandmaster Flash - "The Message"
Green Day - "Jesus of Suburbia"
Guns N' Roses - "Estranged"
George Harrison - "Isn't It a Pity?"
Iron Butterfly - "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida"
Jane's Addiction - "Three Days"
Billy Joel - "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant"
Elton John - "Funeral for a Friend"
King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
LCD Soundsystem - "All My Friends"
Led Zeppelin - "When the Levee Breaks"
Lynyrd Skynyrd - "Free Bird"
Kraftwerk - "Autobahn"
Metallica - "One"
Mother Love Bone - "Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Oh, Comely"
New Order - "Blue Monday"
Nine Inch Nails - "We're In This Together"
Oasis - "Champagne Supernova"
Pink Floyd - "Sheep"
Prince - "Purple Rain"
Rolling Stones - "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'"
Sigur Ros - "Svefn-g-englar"
Sonic Youth - "The Sprawl"
Bruce Springsteen - "Jungleland"
Stone Roses - "I Am the Resurrection"
Suicide - "Frankie Teardrop"
Television - "Marquee Moon"
Justin Timberlake - "What Goes Around Comes Around"
Velvet Underground - "Heroin"
Weezer - "Only In Dreams"
White Stripes - "Ball & Biscuit"
The Who - "Won't Get Fooled Again"
Wilco - "Spiders (Kidsmoke)"
Yes - "Starship Trooper"
Neil Young - "Cortez the Killer"
Frank Zappa - "Willie the Pimp"

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Posted: December 08 2007 at 07:50

nuncjusz wrote:

Are there some 20+ minute songs on the list?

Well, "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" is over 17 mins.. pretty close!

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Posted: December 08 2007 at 15:19

Bel Air by Can is over 20 minutes.

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Posted: December 08 2007 at 15:29

JESUS OF SUBURBIA AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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Posted: December 08 2007 at 18:19

wow this list is actually really good in my opnion for a main stream list, never thought in a thousand years I'd see Can on a list like this.

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Posted: December 08 2007 at 20:05

Evandro Martini wrote:

nuncjusz wrote:

Are there some 20+ minute songs on the list?

Don't think so...

If anyone didn't see, the list is this:

Allman Brothers Band - "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed"
Bauhaus - "Bela Lugosi's Dead"
Beastie Boys - "B-Boy Bouillabaisse"
Beatles - "Hey Jude"
Black Sabbath - "War Pigs/Luke's Wall"
Blur - "Tender"
Can - "Bel Air"
The Cure - "Pictures of You"
David Bowie - "Station to Station"
Derek & the Dominoes - "Layla"
The Doors - "The End"
Bob Dylan - "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands"
Funkadelic - "Maggot Brain"
Grandmaster Flash - "The Message"
Green Day - "Jesus of Suburbia"
Guns N' Roses - "Estranged"
George Harrison - "Isn't It a Pity?"
Iron Butterfly - "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida"
Jane's Addiction - "Three Days"
Billy Joel - "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant"
Elton John - "Funeral for a Friend"
King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King"
LCD Soundsystem - "All My Friends"
Led Zeppelin - "When the Levee Breaks"
Lynyrd Skynyrd - "Free Bird"
Kraftwerk - "Autobahn"
Metallica - "One"
Mother Love Bone - "Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns"
Neutral Milk Hotel - "Oh, Comely"
New Order - "Blue Monday"
Nine Inch Nails - "We're In This Together"
Oasis - "Champagne Supernova"
Pink Floyd - "Sheep"
Prince - "Purple Rain"
Rolling Stones - "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'"
Sigur Ros - "Svefn-g-englar"
Sonic Youth - "The Sprawl"
Bruce Springsteen - "Jungleland"
Stone Roses - "I Am the Resurrection"
Suicide - "Frankie Teardrop"
Television - "Marquee Moon"
Justin Timberlake - "What Goes Around Comes Around"
Velvet Underground - "Heroin" Of course... RS mag uses a lot of that stuff!
Weezer - "Only In Dreams"
White Stripes - "Ball & Biscuit"
The Who - "Won't Get Fooled Again"
Wilco - "Spiders (Kidsmoke)"
Yes - "Starship Trooper"
Neil Young - "Cortez the Killer"
Frank Zappa - "Willie the Pimp"

Some comments -
I'm not familiar with some of the bands/songs on the list, but to the Bolded entries, I ask: WHY?!?!?! Confused

Surprises: that KC's isn't "21st Century Schizoid Man;"
that Zeppelin's isn't "Stairway To Heaven;"

that Neil Young's IS "Cortez The Killer;" (Down By The River?)
Kraftwek's IS "Autobahn;" (Why bother?)
Yes's IS "Starship Trooper" (Something from CTTE?)

Edited by ClassicRocker - December 08 2007 at 20:06

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Posted: December 08 2007 at 20:27

actually... I like that list.... few minor squables...but for RS... a VAST improvement over some of the sh*t they have done

Edited by micky - December 08 2007 at 20:30

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Posted: December 08 2007 at 20:29

Thought it would have been Roundabout from Yes

Would you like to watch TV, or get between the sheets, or contemplate the silent freeway, would you like something to eat?

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 05:05

wait, WHY Willie The Pimp???

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 09:48

cronoyuha wrote:

wow this list is actually really good in my opnion for a main stream list, never thought in a thousand years I'd see Can on a list like this.

As it's a list in a mainstream pop/rock magazine, I have to agree. I'm not going to lose any sleep over the percentage of prog tracks included, or squabble about the choice (yes I am, it should be Halleluwah, Yoo Doo Right or Mother Sky, not Bel Air! Wink

).

Remember, there's more out there than prog and Rolling Stone is definitely not on "our side". Complaining about the amount of non-prog tracks in the list is like a vegetarian going into a butcher's shop and complaining about how many sausages there are.

"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:04

Sonic Youth and Frank Zappa are on there so it's cool.

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:06

A B Negative wrote:

cronoyuha wrote:

wow this list is actually really good in my opnion for a main stream list, never thought in a thousand years I'd see Can on a list like this.

Bel Air is a fabulous piece of music... maybe not a 'out there' as you might want... but it has a beauty that something to behold...

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:10

micky wrote:

A B Negative wrote:

cronoyuha wrote:

wow this list is actually really good in my opnion for a main stream list, never thought in a thousand years I'd see Can on a list like this.

Bel Air is a fabulous piece of music... maybe not a 'out there' as you might want... but it has a beauty that something to behold...

It's Rolling Stone, what do you expect. They just pick what's most obvious. The only reason they put Can on their is too appeal to the experimental rock loving hipsters that probably won't read their magazine until one of their friends is like "dude, that weird band Can you like was mentioned in Rolling Stone!"

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:13

The Wizard wrote:

micky wrote:

A B Negative wrote:

cronoyuha wrote:

wow this list is actually really good in my opnion for a main stream list, never thought in a thousand years I'd see Can on a list like this.

Bel Air is a fabulous piece of music... maybe not a 'out there' as you might want... but it has a beauty that something to behold...

this is what I expect from RS.. .that list was a VAST improvement over crap like this hahahhahah

The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time

Posted Aug 27, 2003 12:00 AM

1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

Edited by micky - December 09 2007 at 11:13

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:26

micky wrote:

The Wizard wrote:

micky wrote:

A B Negative wrote:

cronoyuha wrote:

wow this list is actually really good in my opnion for a main stream list, never thought in a thousand years I'd see Can on a list like this.

Bel Air is a fabulous piece of music... maybe not a 'out there' as you might want... but it has a beauty that something to behold...

this is what I expect from RS.. .that list was a VAST improvement over crap like this hahahhahah

The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time

Posted Aug 27, 2003 12:00 AM

I don't whats terrible about that list. There are plenty of lesser known, progressive guitar on that list. Sure there are a lot of lame ones but you have to realize that Rolling Stone's audience is all music fans in general and they have to satisfy everyone. That's why it's pointless to complain about them.

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:31

Michael... it's the thought process of the list..... it is quite obvious some thought went into that epic list... as opposed to that guitarist list...

any list.... sh*t... anyone who knows a damn thing about music... that would have White and Cobain in the top 20.... and guitarist like Randy Rhodes and yes... EDDIE VAN HALEN ... 70 and up...

is simply a sh*t list.... and reinforced the notion that RS is about pushing trends.. and hot names...

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Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:40

micky wrote:

Michael... it's the thought process of the list..... it is quite obvious some thought went into that epic list... as opposed to that guitarist list...

any list.... sh*t... anyone who knows a damn thing about music... that would have White and Cobain in the top 20.... and guitarist like Randy Rhodes and yes... EDDIE VAN HALEN ... 70 and up...

is simply a sh*t list.... and reinforced the notion that RS is about pushing trends.. and hot names...

White and Cobain were guitarist that set trends and changed the enviorment of the music industry. Eddie Van Halen, though, i'm not a fan, does deserve to be up their since he did that as much as White and Cobain. And I don't see anything special about Randy Rhodes.

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