Rolling Stone's top 50 songs over 7 min
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Topic: Rolling Stone's top 50 songs over 7 min
Posted By: Chicapah
Subject: Rolling Stone's top 50 songs over 7 min
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 12:00
Just happened to notice that ten of the top 50 (as voted on by readers and editors) are by prog or prog-related artists/groups. Can't say that I agree wholeheartedly with their tune selections but glad to see prog bands listed somewhere, at least. Beatles, Black Sabbath, Doors, Iron Butterfly, King Crimson, Zep, Pink Floyd, Who, Yes and Mr. Zappa made the list. Guess they shoulda asked us for our opinion first! Or maybe they knew better...  ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
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Posted By: Rubidium
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 12:26
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Can, Kraftwerk, and Sigur Ros also made the list. Looks like they only wanted to have one song per artist, and that they chose "safer" songs from those artists, which leads to some...interesting selections. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 12:38
| Wheres The Flower Kings? |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 13:15
Oasis and Blur...
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 13:47
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[QUOTE=Rubidium]Can, Kraftwerk, and Sigur Ros also made the list. My bad. Make that 13 out of 50. Kinda surprised that Genesis or ELP didn't get on the list. I guess "Suppers Ready" is still rather obscure to the non-prog population. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: KeleCableII
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 14:25
| nor Jethro Tull... |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 16:16
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Coming from Rolling Stone, I'm surprised they actualy include prog. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 16:17
| can't say i agree with their choices, but i've never really expected to agree with rolling stone on anything. i'm glad they at least included some prog songs, seeing as it is the genre most notorious for writing long songs. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 17:12
and Spock's Beard and Transatlantic and Porcupine Tree. RS, you lose. 
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King of Loss wrote:Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 17:29
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 17:32
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Not the best list. The real shock for me was Oh Comely. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 18:15
I'm sure the magazine was unaware they did this. They probably have ONE rebel editor, that changed some of the "actual results", because we all know that Rolling Stone is too "hip" to intentionally include prog ------------- 
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 18:23
nah, you guys gotta realize, RS is just a media outlet, they have a bunch of different editors, and while their reviews are often anti-good music, it doesn't mean that they aren't going to be a little more objective with their top lists. |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 18:59
For someone who speaks "in jest" all the time, you sure don't recognize it well  (By the way, you can be as objective as you want, but there is no way in hell that Justin Timberlake belongs in that list!) -------------
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 19:56
Dreaming is cheap, eh? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 20:05
Oh sh*t, didn't know they put him there..., btw, I answered you seriously because though you were being sarcastic there is some truth to what you said. RS is a product of it's time, a trend, it will die with the baby boomers, prog is timeless. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 20:06
Nah, RS just sucks |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: December 05 2007 at 21:15
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I'd like to see them do Top 50 songs 60 seconds or less. That'd be an interesting list. ------------- 
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 01:35
1. Napalm Death 2. Napalm Death 3. Napalm Death |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 01:40
Also, the Residents Commercial Album, John Zorn, and Ween. -------------
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 02:58
This is true only because The Clash didn't release another dozen songs of that length.
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Posted By: mellors
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 06:37
| rofl Justin Timberlake |
Posted By: MonkeyphoneAlex
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 08:07
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 08:20
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Well, Yes, KC, Frank Zappa, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin,Metallica deserve far better company than Oasis, Justin Timberlake, Blur and Green Day.
But from this magazine hard to expect a better list.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 08:25
Misread the thread title, so was going to suggest Goin' Home from Aftermath - but just realised the thread title was singular Rolling Stone, not plural Rolling Stones.... ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 13:08
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^well...You can't always get what you want... ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 13:08
| I hate RS |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 13:09
Actually, In the Aeroplane Over the Sea was a widely renowned album. It even received acclaim from many mainstream critics. That surprised me, but while I may not have thought of it as soon as I saw the category, after seeing it I wasn't so surprised.
However, it was definitely more surprising than the overall quality (or lack thereof) of the list. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 13:15
Let's move Metallica and Black Sabbath to the second list. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 13:20
Any prog fan with a sense of justice should. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: cursestar
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 14:07
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I like Blur. But "Tender" is one of their most boring songs.
bleh. It's RS, what do you expect. |
Posted By: electricsilence
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 16:33
| I'll allow myself to be a little sharp and say that the Rolling Stone is for people who think that know something about music, but actually don't know sh*t. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 17:58
fine... |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 21:41
Actually, my post was meant to be more of a (joking) half-truth; quite a few of their editors (and readers) probably do frown on this type of music (prog). Anyways, I don't like the magazine either, but I don't believe it's a trend. Like it or not, the mag's been around for 40 years, and it has lasted this long because it continues to change with the times, and always tries to appeal to the teen/young adult age group. I can guarantee RS's core audience is NOT baby-boomers  -------------
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Posted By: Fight Club
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 22:07
Haha, I was just thinking "grindcore, grindcore, and grindcore..." ------------- 
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Posted By: agProgger
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 22:17
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I'm surprised nothing off of DT's Images and Words is on there, considering how they were actually somewhat known at the time. "Pull Me Under" would be an easy candidate without tarnishing RS's "popular" reputation. I'd rather put something from Awake on there, but there are only 2 songs over 7 minutes on there, neither of which are terribly outstanding. Also, I'm really surprised nothing from Tool is on the list. A double-platinum album should be popular enough for any music reviewing company, and beyond that, just about everything on "Lateralus" is amazing (in my opinion, at least...). ------------- Friend of the honest; enemy of the arrogant and closed-minded. |
Posted By: agProgger
Date Posted: December 06 2007 at 22:19
Diabolical Masquerade divided all its songs up into really small "movements", so they might get on there a few times =P I'm not much of one for black metal (at all), but they're pretty interesting. ------------- Friend of the honest; enemy of the arrogant and closed-minded. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 00:36
Yeah, but DT and Tool are so anti-RS, their popularity doesn't equal hipness |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 00:49
40 years isn't timeless. Sure, they'll be around for a while, but the fact that they constantly try to appeal to the new generations is what makes it trendy and not timeless. Something that stays popular isn't necessarily timeless either, there is such a thing as mindless toothless following. When people look back they'll see a petty fickle magazine/website/etc. that has nothing about it that transcends it's era like the best music does. Timeless is something that is what it is and people can look back on it and it still has relevance to them. RS is not this because people who aren't mindless and toothless will see that the magazine changes to stay hip and don't care about what is really good. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 02:11
| The Rolling Stone is the last place to look for information or anything connected with Prog Rock. And most of the groups you quote are not prog. They are considered prog related in these files ( which are not the prog bible anyway ) and prog related is another way of saying they are nor prog. |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 04:16
Until you suggest a well-known band with many elements of prog in their music for the prog related category. All of a sudden a bunch of people who should know better show up to tell you that they aren't prog.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 05:16
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Whatever you say, but the same name says it all.
Prog Related = Related to Prog= Drawer where you can put anything.
But that has been discussed before, with no agreement, and it wasn't my intention to start again.
I humbly apologise, really.
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Posted By: nuncjusz
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 19:29
| Are there some 20+ minute songs on the list? |
Posted By: Evandro Martini
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 23:13
Don't think so... If anyone didn't see, the list is this: Allman Brothers Band - "In Memory of Elizabeth Reed" Bauhaus - "Bela Lugosi's Dead" Beastie Boys - "B-Boy Bouillabaisse" Beatles - "Hey Jude" Black Sabbath - "War Pigs/Luke's Wall" Blur - "Tender" Can - "Bel Air" The Cure - "Pictures of You" David Bowie - "Station to Station" Derek & the Dominoes - "Layla" The Doors - "The End" Bob Dylan - "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" Funkadelic - "Maggot Brain" Grandmaster Flash - "The Message" Green Day - "Jesus of Suburbia" Guns N' Roses - "Estranged" George Harrison - "Isn't It a Pity?" Iron Butterfly - "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" Jane's Addiction - "Three Days" Billy Joel - "Scenes From an Italian Restaurant" Elton John - "Funeral for a Friend" King Crimson - "In the Court of the Crimson King" LCD Soundsystem - "All My Friends" Led Zeppelin - "When the Levee Breaks" Lynyrd Skynyrd - "Free Bird" Kraftwerk - "Autobahn" Metallica - "One" Mother Love Bone - "Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns" Neutral Milk Hotel - "Oh, Comely" New Order - "Blue Monday" Nine Inch Nails - "We're In This Together" Oasis - "Champagne Supernova" Pink Floyd - "Sheep" Prince - "Purple Rain" Rolling Stones - "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'" Sigur Ros - "Svefn-g-englar" Sonic Youth - "The Sprawl" Bruce Springsteen - "Jungleland" Stone Roses - "I Am the Resurrection" Suicide - "Frankie Teardrop" Television - "Marquee Moon" Justin Timberlake - "What Goes Around Comes Around" Velvet Underground - "Heroin" Weezer - "Only In Dreams" White Stripes - "Ball & Biscuit" The Who - "Won't Get Fooled Again" Wilco - "Spiders (Kidsmoke)" Yes - "Starship Trooper" Neil Young - "Cortez the Killer" Frank Zappa - "Willie the Pimp" ------------- "You’ll never make any money playing music that people can’t sing.” Keith Emerson's father |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 07:50
Well, "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" is over 17 mins.. pretty close! -------------
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 15:19
| Bel Air by Can is over 20 minutes. |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 15:29
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JESUS OF SUBURBIA AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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Posted By: cronoyuha
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 18:19
| wow this list is actually really good in my opnion for a main stream list, never thought in a thousand years I'd see Can on a list like this. |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 20:05
Some comments - I'm not familiar with some of the bands/songs on the list, but to the Bolded entries, I ask: WHY?!?!?!  Surprises: that KC's isn't "21st Century Schizoid Man;" that Zeppelin's isn't "Stairway To Heaven;" that Neil Young's IS "Cortez The Killer;" (Down By The River?) Kraftwek's IS "Autobahn;" (Why bother?) Yes's IS "Starship Trooper" (Something from CTTE?) -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 20:27
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actually... I like that list.... few minor squables...but for RS... a VAST improvement over some of the sh*t they have done
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Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: December 08 2007 at 20:29
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Thought it would have been Roundabout from Yes ------------- Would you like to watch TV, or get between the sheets, or contemplate the silent freeway, would you like something to eat? |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 05:05
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wait, WHY Willie The Pimp??? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 09:48
As it's a list in a mainstream pop/rock magazine, I have to agree. I'm not going to lose any sleep over the percentage of prog tracks included, or squabble about the choice (yes I am, it should be Halleluwah, Yoo Doo Right or Mother Sky, not Bel Air! ).Remember, there's more out there than prog and Rolling Stone is definitely not on "our side". Complaining about the amount of non-prog tracks in the list is like a vegetarian going into a butcher's shop and complaining about how many sausages there are. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:04
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Sonic Youth and Frank Zappa are on there so it's cool. -------------  
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:06
Bel Air is a fabulous piece of music... maybe not a 'out there' as you might want... but it has a beauty that something to behold... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:10
It's Rolling Stone, what do you expect. They just pick what's most obvious. The only reason they put Can on their is too appeal to the experimental rock loving hipsters that probably won't read their magazine until one of their friends is like "dude, that weird band Can you like was mentioned in Rolling Stone!" -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:13
this is what I expect from RS.. .that list was a VAST improvement over crap like this hahahhahah The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All TimeThe 100 Greatest Guitarists of All TimePosted Aug 27, 2003 12:00 AM
1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band 3 B.B. King 4 Eric Clapton 5 Robert Johnson 6 Chuck Berry 7 Stevie Ray Vaughan 8 Ry Cooder 9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin 10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones 11Kirk Hammett of Metallica 12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana 13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead 14 Jeff Beck 15 Carlos Santana 16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones 17 Jack White of the White Stripes 18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 19 Richard Thompson 20 James Burton 21 George Harrison 22 Mike Bloomfield 23 Warren Haynes 24 The Edge of U2 25 Freddy King 26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave 27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits 28 Stephen Stills 29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges 30 Buddy Guy 31 Dick Dale 32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service 33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth 35 John Fahey 36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's 37 Bo Diddley 38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac 39 Brian May of Queen 40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival 41 Clarence White of the Byrds 42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson 43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic 44 Scotty Moore 45 Frank Zappa 46 Les Paul 47 T-Bone Walker 48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith 49 John McLaughlin 50 Pete Townshend 51 Paul Kossoff of Free 52 Lou Reed 53 Mickey Baker 54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane 55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple 56 Tom Verlaine of Television 57 Roy Buchanan 58 Dickey Betts 59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead 61 Ike Turner 62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band 63 Danny Gatton 64 Mick Ronson 65 Hubert Sumlin 66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour 67 Link Wray 68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape 69 Steve Howe of Yes 70 Eddie Van Halen 71 Lightnin' Hopkins 72 Joni Mitchell 73 Trey Anastasio of Phish 74 Johnny Winter 75 Adam Jones of Tool 76 Ali Farka Toure 77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat 78 Robbie Robertson of the Band 79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997) 80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids 81 Derek Trucks 82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd 83 Neil Young 84 Eddie Cochran 85 Randy Rhoads 86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath 87 Joan Jett 88 Dave Davies of the Kinks 89 D. Boon of the Minutemen 90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper 91 Robby Krieger of the Doors 92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5 94 Bert Jansch 95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine 96 Angus Young of AC/DC 97 Robert Randolph 98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer 99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag 100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:26
I don't whats terrible about that list. There are plenty of lesser known, progressive guitar on that list. Sure there are a lot of lame ones but you have to realize that Rolling Stone's audience is all music fans in general and they have to satisfy everyone. That's why it's pointless to complain about them. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:31
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Michael... it's the thought process of the list..... it is quite
obvious some thought went into that epic list... as opposed to that
guitarist list... any list.... sh*t... anyone who knows a damn thing about music... that would have White and Cobain in the top 20.... and guitarist like Randy Rhodes and yes... EDDIE VAN HALEN ... 70 and up... is simply a sh*t list.... and reinforced the notion that RS is about pushing trends.. and hot names... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:40
White and Cobain were guitarist that set trends and changed the enviorment of the music industry. Eddie Van Halen, though, i'm not a fan, does deserve to be up their since he did that as much as White and Cobain. And I don't see anything special about Randy Rhodes. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:46
 anyhow.... White may have possible impact with his guitar style and 'playing' .. but Cobain?... it was the music.. the attitude.. the larger sh*tfts in musical tastes that his group was but a part of.. .but it was not his guitar playing.... as I said... he is there.. for his name. Not as a guitar player ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 11:56
I agree. I'm happy they chose a Can track, I just like the other tracks I mentioned slightly more. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 12:01
And your probably right. Kurt Cobain really wasn't really an original guitarist, J Mascis and King Buzzo, his big influences that did much more to create an original sound should be on that list instead of Cobain who kinda just copied their styles. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 12:04
same here... even those twits at RS have to recognize what a massively influential group Can is.. and have a spot for them on the list. Sure they had to touch upon all kinds of musical angles..but it was nice to see Can in there. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 12:32
I'm not a Melvins fan so I can't comment on the Buzzo comparison but I don't hear any of J Mascis in Cobain's guitar playing. Anyway, Cobain was a huge influence on my guitar playing (less is very often more), as was Mascis (more is often more too!). ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: electricsilence
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 12:49
Well, he was IMO the first guitarist to actually do something with pinch harmonics, and I also think he had a much better taste at using the tapping tecnique in heavy metal songs than Van Halen, who seemed to make a circus show off of it. |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 12:58
What's terrible about the list is Zappa is below Johnny f**king Power Chord Ramone -------------
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:05
Maybe Johnny Ramone was more influential than Zappa. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:14
Disgusting. ------------- 
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:18
It depends on which version of Autobahn that is.
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Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:20
I doubt it and anyway.. so what? The list is The Greatest Guitarists of all time, not the most influential. It sickens me to see Cobain near the top. What a joke. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:24
Agreed, you cant make a list that says greatest guitarists of all time then put Jack white in front of Steve Howe. -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:24
if you can think of a greater measure of greatness than 'influence' I'd love to hear it ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:24
How do you measure greatness? Most albums sold? Most influential? Most notes per second? Most hummable? I really like Zappa but I prefer Nirvana and The Ramones. The real sickener is that Gregg Ginn is only at 99! ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:45
Not a bad song at all... but how about the Adventures Of Greggary Peccary instead
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:48
pfffff..... there might be an element of truth there perhaps.. who knows.... we don't have to like punk.... but you can't ignore it. but most depressing.. .try this And I don't see anything special about Randy Rhodes hahahha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:51
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does influencing simplicity and making the instrument virtually unimportant in the context of the song count as GREAT? if so put Mr. Ramone at number 1 -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:55
yin and yang brother.... look at this way.... does influencing all kinds of technical magic and making it SO important make it any greater..... lose the prog fan mentality and recognize that it is the CHANGES in prevailing wisdom with regards to guitar playing... that makes the player great... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:55
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The only reason Randy Rhodes is fabled more than the typical hair metal shredder, is because he played with Ozzy. -------------
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 13:59
I see where you're coming from, but I don't think Johnny Ramone himself would've even thought himself a great guitarist. Punk really doesn't feature guitar for any other purposes than to maintain the simple key.....and I understand what you mean about technicality, which is why I absolutely despise Mr. Malmsteen.....I don't hate Johnny Ramone (his music's another story) but I just don't think he was a great guitarist. At all. It's a blatant example of RS trying to please people. What makes him any better or worse than the guitarist from The Sex Pistols or the Clash? -------------
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 14:45
 You're kidding?
That guitarist list is incredibly lazy - it wasn't compiled by a guitarist.
...and people should stop bashing Timberlake just because of who he is, and listen to what the guy does.
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Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:00
I don't know, it's a stupid list and you shouldn't really take it seriously... it's just someone elses opinion and was drawn up from their prespective. In my view, a great guitarist is someone who can play well, knows the instrument inside out, can experiment with new techniques and who is always always trying to improve. |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:01
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:01
then when am I on that list my friend.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:02
Actually, Micky, I was saying exactly that. It's depressing to me because it is a fairly true statement. Punk bands like the Ramones, Sex Pistols, the Clash, etc. have had arguably way more influence on the music that followed (especially including modern music), than Frank Zappa has had. The only popular/mainstream music nowadays that I can say has been influenced by Zappa would be Weird Al Yankovic, and that's merely from a humor-in-music standpoint (not much by way of technicality). And it makes me somewhat sad that that's the way it is... but on the other side of things, I suppose that it just makes Frank Zappa that much greater and original... or something. -------------
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Posted By: Snipergoat
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:10
Hahah, well with Kurt Cobain on that list I don't see why not  |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:35
| The guitarists list is nightmarishly bad. They should have the decency to redo it and ask someone intelligent for input. Kurt Cobain shou;dn't be allowed within ten feet of it. Lyricists, absolutely, but guitarists? No Steve Vai? Are you serious. EVH number 70. I'm amazed they managed to put Hendrix in the right place. I'm sure the editor had to fix that. Influence should be the biggest factor, but it'll be a cold day in hell before Cobain influences more than EVH and Tony Iommi. |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 18:48
 You are absolutely right; I think we should all commend him for bringing "Sexy Back." Those creative beats and rhymes he makes certainly are infectious! -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 19:48
Jane's Addiction's "Three Days" is one of their best songs. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 20:57
not to mention 'Can You Hear me Knockin' is a killer frickin song 
Hard to call it the best.. with so many great songs by them but
it is right with Monkey Man as my favorite from the Stones... and
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these eyes.. it isn't out of place on that list at all... shame it
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Posted By: Inverted
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 21:45
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Aww, you can't hate Bruce and Funkadelic. Green Day, sure.
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 21:52
| I agree with Micky, stonie, and inverted, and I also say that Purple Rain is magnificence. Prince may be the weirdest guy on Earth, but his music is amazing. |
Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: December 09 2007 at 23:15
ahhhh, Lizzy Reed  ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 01:19
 I know my comments were bound to create some controversy, so sorry to everyone, but here's my defense:
Stonebeard - for Jane's Addiction I have only heard "Jane Says", so maybe I was a little unfair to point them out; that song just doesn't make them seem very special. Micky - I do really love the Stones, just Can't You Hear Me Knockin' doesn't strike me as at the top of their song list. If the list was 6min+ songs, I would have elected Sympathy For The Devil.
I actually didn't say I hated any of these bands, per se. I enjoy Bruce Springsteen very much, and would have preferred a song like Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) [Live] (I find Jungleland somewhat boring/overrated). Once again, I've been unfair with Funkadelic, though. I have only heard the name... so maybe that was an accidental bolding .
Sorry, that's the only Prince song I've heard (the live version), and I can't say that I like it. -------------
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 04:43
Jane Says is possibly the least representative Jane's Addiction song. Three Days is definitely one of their best.
Is Can't You Hear Me Knockin' on Guitar Hero 2? It might explain its appearance on the list.
Funkadelic's Maggot Brain isn't a funk song, it's one of the best guitar solos ever recorded.
I played guitar in a blues band many years ago, we played a blues version of Purple Rain. It was as bad as it sounds.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 10 2007 at 06:37
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Posted By: burtonrulez
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 02:54
But they didn't
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 17:14
Yes. ololololol controversy -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 17:18
damn... never ever saw or heard of the first one... unless... was it the movie with Mark Wahlberg and Jennifer Anniston in it? I don't remember that song in the movie ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 18:57
Nice try, Micky. Guitar Hero is a video game franchise. Basically it's Dance Dance Revolution with guitars, and people waste away their time playing fake guitar instead of learning how to do it for real. It's very sad, actually.-------------
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