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Valarius

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 16:31

Lol...

frenchie

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 17:17

valravennz wrote:

I say 'Nightwish" stays and groups like TMV should go.

oh you did NOT GO THERE! Nightwish are fine as a gothic opera-like bad christmas carolling bunch of over the top excuses for metal but they are not prog. I think you need to re-listen to frances the mute.

Irish eye had a bagel bla bla bla Nightwish suck!
I'm in love with my gloves buuuuuuuuurrrrrning bagels to crust!

f**kin' atrocious song! Some of the other songs were tolerable, i really am not a fan but i definetly hear no prog in their music.

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 17:21

Should be the possibility to vote for indifferent.

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 18:35

I'm, in a word, disgusted.

When I was first introduced to the site (long before I started to shout out jokes no-one besides me understands at this forum), basically every group / artist I "found" here was, according to my opinion, progressive. It might not have been my cup of tea (kind of nothing is...), but whenever a band was listed in the progarchives, it had a certain warranty. I mean that it is ok for me if I don't like a band or an album I purchase / illegaly download, but I surely get pissed off if something that is packaged and labeled as prog is, in fact, something totally different.

The categorizations 'prog metal', 'neo prog' and 'space/experimental' have no true meaning anymore. That is only because too many a recent addition to these three 'genres' does not really fit in the category it has been put in. I don't care too much for prog metal (that's just ugly), so I wouldn't mind if each and every metal band was added to the archives - I tend to skip those groups anyway. But I do find it a bit irritating to be forced to search information about groups that are listed as 'neo progressive' or 'space / experimental' from other sites and other sources because I cannot trust the categorisations.

The above text musn't necessarily be read because, to be honest, I hardly ever listen to music.

Cheers

-Beau

PS. Listening to Gnidrolog as I write...

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 21:25

Logos wrote:

valravennz wrote:

It may be ridiculous to you but it is just as ridiculous to me that TMV can even come close to being prog. What I have heard of them does not impress me in the least.

However this is just going to go around in circles so lets agree to disagree ok?

Consider this: The Mars Volta have very long songs (up to 32min!) and the mellotron! If that doesn't make a band prog, then what does???

Very long songs and the mellotron - granted - are common in progressive rock music. However, it is not essential to have those ingredients. As I have said before in other forums prog rock music is in the ear of the beholder!

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 21:29

frenchie wrote:

valravennz wrote:

I say 'Nightwish" stays and groups like TMV should go.

A good bite there!

Yes - perhaps I should listen to Francis the Mute. But I don't want to waste my money on something I feel I will dislike intensely....

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 21:31

Gentle Ronnie wrote:

If effort was spent to get the band on the website, then they should as well stay here forever.

- Thanks for the support

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Posted: April 05 2005 at 21:36

Petra wrote:

Well I voted yes to Nightwish but I agree with a couple of others here that Blind Guardian should be here too if Nightwish is.

I think the problem with a lot of people that dont agree with Nightwish being here is they just don't like Metal full stop and cannot see the prog elements because they are blinded by this idea that prog has be of just one certain style. A lot of Prog rock snobs basically!

I think its brilliant that so many more bands are in this site than 6months ago.

I totally agree - groups like Blind Guardian should be included in this site. How would you catagorise groups like "Within Temptation" or "Lacuna Coil"? If you know the works of these groups then their similarity to Nightwish would make them candidates for the archives too.

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Poll Question: Should Nightwish be featured on this site?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Yes	27	[37.50%]
No	42	[58.33%]
Don’t Know ’Em	3	[4.17%]
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