Help with a girl...

Okay, no air flute solos. Got that? Kills a budding relationship, believe you me.

Arrrghus wrote: Geck0 wrote: Arrrghus wrote: Luckily, this girl certainly knows I exist... everyone on the Cross country team knows me! I'm a flamboyant, bouncy, weird, and articulate individual who is well known; I'm just shy with girls, that's all. Extremely shy! Who quotes Peter Hammill at the top of his lungs!      Well, I'm shy with girls, but not with people!

So we're not people now?

No, seriously, I know what you mean. Just couldn't resist.

Aaaand... I don't have anything of substance to add that people haven't already told you. Good luck.

Ditch her, she sounds like trouble to me.

Anything that escapes your mouth & enters her ears along the lines of "I would like to take you to a movie, concert, dinner, etc", will do just fine.

The Whistler wrote: Okay, no air flute solos. Got that? Kills a budding relationship, believe you me.

if she rejects you, just tell her to go back to her home on whore island!

Chameleon wrote: darkshade wrote: if she rejects you, just tell her to go back to her home on whore island!     One of my friend's favorite insults is 'whore from whore island'.

The Whistler wrote: Okay, no air flute solos. Got that? Kills a budding relationship, believe you me.   Of course, if the air flute solo WORKS by some weird happenstance...marry her. Right away.

an air flute solo could be interpreted as another thing

Well, I asked her out, and she said, "well, I'm not sure. We can still be friends, though." Before anyone says that sucks (and it does, but not badly), I'm happy I asked her out without stuttering badly (hell, I asked a girl out!). She said (sincerely) we could be friends, and she never really said no, either (though she implied it). I'm not gonna get worked over it - rejection creates experience. Plus, she could think it over...

It's been kind of a weird situation for me... I've dated a lot, and got married, and yet I've never asked asked a girl out or initiated a relationship.  I never even proposed. 

I've always left it up to the girls to ask me out.  If I was interested (romantically), I didn't express it.  Some girls respond well to guys who don't show romantic interest in them.  One makes them interested in subtle ways.  I hung out with girls and listened to them without letting desire affect me.  When you're not making yourself that available it makes women want you more.  We always want what is hard to obtain.

Have you seen the Tao of Steve?  Now I was married before it came out, but that sums up my approach to women.

The key to making yourself desirable is by eliminating desire.

A quote:

"Dex: Look at me. Look at me, okay? Technically, I shouldn't be getting laid, but I do. And do you know why, Dave? Because when I'm hanging out with a woman, that's all I'm doing is hanging out, talking, listening. I'm not sitting there thinking about how to get in bed with her. And this completely confuses them because they're saying "Wait a minute. I'm so much better looking than this guy. Isn't he attracted to me?" The basic principle: We pursue that which retreats from us."

I talked to girls, listened for their interests, engaged them in it.  If they liked doing something, (say hiking) then I have suggested that we should head out on a hike together in a not that interested sort of way (usually they were the ones to suggest it).  Sometimes it took manipulative nudges to get them to suggest that we be more than friends.