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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2005 at 23:40
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

In the Euro corner:

Homer,Hippocrates,Socrates,Plato,Aristotle,Euclid,Lucretius, Seneca,Cicero,Virgil,Marcus Aurelius,Thomas Aquinas,Dante,Machiavelli,Erasmus,Rabelais,Copernicus,Montai gne,Shakespeare,Francis Bacon,Galilei,Milton,Descartes,Pascal,Spinoza,Hobbes,Newton, Locke,Hume,Montesquieu,Rosseau,Kant,Blake,Goethe,Hegel,Kierk egaard,Schopenhauer,Darwin,Ibsen,Nietzsche,Freud,Einstein,Ka fka,Jung,Heidegger,Sartre.

In the American corner:

Err.....hmm....err....

Well Europe has all you guys, and evidently you're not all that bright..

American has many, many great writers, painters, inventors, actors, directors, statesmen, businessmen... This is the home of the free and the brave afterall... Great Americans such as :

George Washington, Alexander Graham Bell, Eli Whitney, George Westinghouse, Susan B. Anthony, Cesar Chavez, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King, Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Abraham Lincoln, Harriet Tubman, The Wright Brothers, Rosa Parks, Georgia O'Keefe, Louis Armstrong, Teddy, FDR, and Eleanor Roosevelt, Henry Ford, Ernest Heminway, Walt Disney, Jackson Pollack, John F. Kennedy, Andy Warhol, George Patton, Davy Crockett, Ray Charles, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, George Washington Carver, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Walt Whitman, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Mark Twain, Booker T. Washington, Henry Adams, Edith Wharton, Upton Sinclair, Will Rogers, Langston Hughes, F. Scott Fitzgerald, John Steinbeck, Edgar Allan Poe, William Faulkner, Ayn Rand, Jack Keroauc, William F. Buckley, Mary Cassatt, Emily Dickenson, Willa Catha, John Singer Sargent, James Whistler (who painted his mother), Margaret Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Ansel Adams, Muhammad Ali, P. T. Barnum, Irving Berlin, Leonard Bernstein, Andrew Carnegie, Margaret Mead, Raymond Chandler, Henry Clay, John Fenimore Cooper, Aaron Copland, Dwight Eisenhower, Duke Ellington, Bill Gates, George Gershwin, Robert E. Lee, Sinclair Lewis, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, Charles Lindbergh, Henry Longfellow, J. Pierpont Morgan, Samuel B. Morse, Robert Moses, Joseph Pulitzer, Richard Rodgers, Charles Schulz, Isaac Stern, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, John Keats, Louisa May Alcott, Robert Frost, Allen Ginsberg, Humphrey Bogart, Grace Kelly, Charlie Chaplin, Katherine Hepburn, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Judy Garland, Clark Gable, John Wayne, Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Frances Ford Coppola, Michael Jordan, Mark Spitz, Pocahantas, Amelia Earhart, Frank Lloyd Wright, Buffalo Bill Cody, Harry Houdini, Ethan Allen, Jimmy Carter, T.S. Eliot, Oliver Wendall Holmes, Washington Irving, Jack London, Norman Mailer, Arthur Miller, Herman Melville, Toni Morrison, Eugene O'Neill, J.D. Salinger, Carl Sandburg, Tennessee Williams,  and Homer Simpson among thousands of others....

However, if you're not up on your American history... here's a link where you can learn about some of these great Americans..

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/B/

 

and lets not forget Eddy!

Actually, excellent post TF

....stick that in your smoke and pipe it Pixel Pyro

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 07:24

I'm puffing away right now,Gdub! But I wasn't being entirely serious with that list obviously (and I left out a few thousand names!), but you probably got that. Or maybe not? America has had tons of great minds,only a lunatic would dispute that,some of my favourite writers are American actually,but Chaplin was actually English and I always found him about as funny as a root canal anyway. And Davy Crockett? THE Davy Crocket? The frontiersman and defender of the Alamo? Rubbing shoulders with the genius of Edgar Allan Poe? Surely some mistake?

And my America bashing ends here and now! I simply cannot singlehandedly shoulder the responsibility of defending 5000 years of European culture and history,and since I actually have a great admiration for the American people (in general), the whole thing is simply swamped with so many grey areas that I run a risk getting tangled up in my own arguments and meeting myself in the door. Could be a tad mixing of metaphors there,but you get my point.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 09:31
Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I'm puffing away right now,Gdub! But I wasn't being entirely serious with that list obviously (and I left out a few thousand names!), but you probably got that. Or maybe not? America has had tons of great minds,only a lunatic would dispute that,some of my favourite writers are American actually,but Chaplin was actually English and I always found him about as funny as a root canal anyway. And Davy Crockett? THE Davy Crocket? The frontiersman and defender of the Alamo? Rubbing shoulders with the genius of Edgar Allan Poe? Surely some mistake?

And my America bashing ends here and now! I simply cannot singlehandedly shoulder the responsibility of defending 5000 years of European culture and history,and since I actually have a great admiration for the American people (in general), the whole thing is simply swamped with so many grey areas that I run a risk getting tangled up in my own arguments and meeting myself in the door. Could be a tad mixing of metaphors there,but you get my point.

I agree , somewhat with you Europeans on the cultural supremacy. Like you said, Pixel, you have 5,000 years to choose examples of. What do we have? 400+ years. Really no contest. Perhaps we should only peer back the last 400 hundred years for our examples. Europe would still wipe our tails with that comparison too..So now let us break it down further....USA vs any what country in Europe the past 250 years. Suddenly the comparison becomes much closer.......maybe, perhaps we kick your tails. I mean now many cultural icons does Norway produce Pixel Pirate?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 09:50

Cheerleaders a´la UK

Outside Ripon Cathedral

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 10:52
Andy Warhol ??????????? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 10:55
Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

... But I wasn't being entirely serious with that list obviously (and I left out a few thousand names!), but you probably got that. Or maybe not? America has had tons of great minds,only a lunatic would dispute that,some of my favourite writers are American actually,..

Thats my point to Pixel... even with less than 300 years to pull from, I could quote you just as many names...

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

And Davy Crockett? THE Davy Crocket? The frontiersman and defender of the Alamo? Rubbing shoulders with the genius of Edgar Allan Poe? Surely some mistake? 

Greatness shows no biasness. Davy Crockett has his place in the history of this country.  He was our first celebrity..  

http://www.comedyontap.com/pantheon/crockett/crockett4.html

Its funny tho, I wonder how many of us would even have th chance to communicate as well without one American.... Bill Gates..

Ane whether or not you like Andy Warhol, Velvy.... he was an artist.. no doubt about it.  A very strange one, but he's very well liked worldwide...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:00
Charlie Chaplin was English !!!!!!!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:09
The tiny country of Norway has actually managed to produce some of the world's greatest artists,chief among them Ibsen of course,the father of modern drama. Then there's Edvard Munch,the father of modern painting. Throw in Grieg and a few others (like Nobel prize winners Sigrid Undset and Knut Hamsun) and we have actually had rather a great impact in the realms of the arts over the last 100 years or so for such a tiny place. Proof positive that size really is immaterial!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:23
Hey I would be the first person to stick up for Britain, afterall not only have I been in love with a British man most my life, or is it the home of my favorite music... but my last name is Heath, my other grandparents surnames were Waters and Gray.  I have a feeling my blood is English.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:25
I´ve got a feeling my blood is Scottish 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 11:26
Bilden “http://www.sydneyteddybearfair.com/Royal%20Stewart%20Scottish%20Bear.JPG” kan inte visas, då den innehåller fel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2005 at 18:55
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

"Intellecutal and cultural supremacy?"  Surely you jest!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 09:22

If it weren't for America, there'd be no Fender or Gibson guitars.

But thanks for those Marshall amps, guys!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2005 at 14:52
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

If it weren't for America, there'd be no Fender or Gibson guitars.

But thanks for those Marshall amps, guys!

You also wouldn't have a Hammond organ or a moog synthesizer....Paiste cymbals or Ludwig drums...



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