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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:18
I know people that can't tell the difference between 128kbps and a SACD so how do i know ye are not one of these people?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:18
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

Well the Sound Blaster live card costed twice of wha the X-fi costs today when it was released! But ofcourse the best soundcard would be that one with a built in tube!

So you bought the ultra mega platinum edition? I don't like them - you get the exact same card with tons of stuff you don't need - a remote control, drive bay, extra cables and interfaces/adapters, some old and obsolete entry version of a sequencer/hd recording software ...

I always buy the smallest version which has the same chip as the top version.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:20

Nope the original version called sound blaster live costed alot when it was relased back in 97!

And yes Sound Cards with built in tubes exsist so no im not joking!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:24
But the best soundcard ever released is The Sound Blaster 16...no soundcard has quite that charm it has.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:29
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

Nope the original version called sound blaster live costed alot when it was relased back in 97!

And yes Sound Cards with built in tubes exsist so no im not joking!

Such a soundcard would be VERY noisy with the tube exposed to all the interference inside a computer.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:30
Never heard it...but afterall all soundcards is fairly bad compared to the SB-16...nothing works better than that one
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:37
Here's what I find to be the crux of the argument here:

Any "noise" you may hear in a computer-based audio system is largely based on improper shielding of cables, and with an internal soundcard, possibly some "crosstalk" between the system bus and the audio signal paths of the card. That's why I always recommend D/A converters in an external housing.

As far as D/A converters affecting the actual timbral quality of an audio signal, that's just nonsense. Some systems do some "upsampling" tricks to simulate higher res (as Mike explained) , but in the end, the 16-bit/44.1 kHz audio on the disc is precisely what was pressed into the disc (any bits/samples added later are interpolated). Any decent CD player worth it's salt has a low fault tolerance for dropped samples, and will interpolate seamlessly until the damage or interference with the readable surface of the disc is fairly significant.

I'm amazed no one's mentioned the Fletcher-Munson curve. The human ear accentuates certain frequencies (just a product of evolution), and as a result, certain frequencies require more or less amplification to be perceived by the human ear as being the approximate same level.

Much "audiophile" gear is simply tailored to accentuate the Fletcher-Munson curve, in order to make playback sound more "pleasing" or "musical".

In reality, current digital technology is more HI-FI. (More of an accurate representation of the actual recorded vibrations).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 16:40
Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

And yes Sound Cards with built in tubes exsist so no im not joking!



Amazing what they'll try to market to people!

That's like selling someone a horse-drawn spaceship.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2006 at 18:05
So then any of you digital freaks gotten to class D amps yet?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2006 at 02:02
Of course the best solution would be to completely remove the analog parts of the sound card ... just connect the sound card digitally to the amp of your choice.
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