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Poll Question: which band do punks hate the most
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6 [8.70%]
9 [13.04%]
1 [1.45%]
0 [0.00%]
7 [10.14%]
2 [2.90%]
0 [0.00%]
6 [8.70%]
2 [2.90%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 18:05
Punk must die
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 18:16
I know that punks hated prog, but you'd have thought that they'd have been bedfellows.  After all, they WERE groundbreaking...and no one had heard anything of the sort when either genre came about.  BTW...what was the first punk album?  The 1st prog album?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 19:25
Genesis.  Punks can actually take a listen to some of Pink Floyd stuff (as their recent sucess following Live 8 proved) but Genesis can be demeaned so easily by relating everything to Phil Collins and the 80's 'work.'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:29

ELP embodied everything punk was against:

1. complicated songs

2. needing talent to play instruments

3. lyrics that didn't sound like a 5-year old had written them

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:52

I voted Rush, all of the punks that i know here absolutely hate Rush, so i go on and on about how i'm a prog fanboy and how prog will always be the ultimate form of music.  As far as the most hated bands among punks I'd go with these.

Rush- Very artistic, and somewhat cheesey when they added keyboards.  Plus, they hate Geddy's voice.

ELP- Used the Moog to it's fullest extent.  Punks hate anything that isn't a sh*tty drumset or a distorted guitar.

Dream Theater- This is the most modern embodyment of anit-punk.  The lyrics are conceptual, the guitars and keyboards trade solos, and all of the members are skilled.  The songs are quite long.  Every fan i know of hard, fast, and somewhat crappy music hates Dream Theater.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:59
Don't know if anyone has allready said this but..........Who gives a flying FU*K who punk fans don't like? F Punk!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:59

If they've ever had ELP, they would just

DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:15

"How do you spell 'pretentious'?"

"E-L-P"

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Actually, I read somewhere that the aforementioned "I Hate Pink Floyd" shirt was one of the two reasons that Rotten was hired as a vocalist for the Sex Pistols (the other being that he had green hair at the time). 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 00:29
I also think that punks hate ELP the most, but I think it's reasonable, for Christ's sake even half of proggers hate them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 15:28
Originally posted by Charles Charles wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey.

 

Joy Division..

Peter Hook worshipped Hawkwind and cites Lemmy as his major influence...

Ian Curtis was responsible for introducing the band to Kraftwerk...

Barney Sumner loved David Bowie and also cites Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music as one of his influences...

Stephen Morris had many influences on his drumming, but the Jaki Leibeizeit influence is obvious...

Charles

true ive also read that Pete Shelly Of The Buzzcocks loved Can and alot of krautrock 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:58

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

I also think that punks hate ELP the most, but I think it's reasonable, for Christ's sake even half of proggers hate them

hahahahaa

sad but somehow true...Im not one of them!

Yes, ELP were the more hated band in the late seventies...Also Pink Floyd, but thouse punks didnt affect Floyds sells...ELP´s sells went doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooownnnnnnnnn...

Yes was also very hated!!!

But what is very strange is that a lot of prog musicians (who were affected with the punk movement) actually respect punk quite a lot! And not only progers, but also other bands, like Led Zeppelin...Robert Plant said that althought the punks were against them they were one of the most important and one of the best thinks to happend to music...weird right?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 18:23

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

I also think that punks hate ELP the most, but I think it's reasonable, for Christ's sake even half of proggers hate them

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Yup You´re right!!

I´m not a Punk-Twat but I really hate anything from ELP, Jethro Tull, Eloy, Asia and specially the so-called American Prog: STYX, Glass Hammer and Kansas

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 20:40

I depends on what punks you ask. I am pretty much a f*ing punk and most of my freinds. Lots of old Genesis fans; lots of Tull fans (me especially); of course no worthy punk is gonna dis Crimson (L.T.I.A.??); old Syd Barrett Pink Floyd is pretty f*ing punk (Interstellar Overdrive?????); and Rush was an influence despite the apparent hatred. Lots of 80's punks grew up litsening to that stuff (All/'All' era Descendents???Lots of real technical parts to those guys).

Faust, Neu! and Beefheart are all worshiped by punks...

Anyway, I voted for Yes; mostly because of Rick Wakeman...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:10
I think ELP, definitely... but I think a lot of that prog-bashing was strategy more than anything else. Punks aren't bad people...not the good ones, anyway...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:34
the Mars Volta. Tons of these 'punk' kids I know hate TMV because they say
they're "ruining" what punk is.
One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:36
Originally posted by The Green Tank The Green Tank wrote:

ELP embodied everything punk was against:

1. complicated songs

2. needing talent to play instruments

3. lyrics that didn't sound like a 5-year old had written them

the above description is most prog

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:41

I can't guess what goes inside a Punk head because I don't listen Punk,  this genre started as anti Prog' mostly (I can't understand how something can base his existence in being anti anything), so they probably hate all the genre.

But honestly, I couldn't care less about what they love or hate.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:56

Yes and Genesis. During that fight wth the stinky TalkPunk forum, I was reading through anti-prog posts and the most used examples of prog were Yes and Genesis. If you read these articles (if you haven't yet) you wll see they hate Yes and Genesis the most.

http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/whendinosaursromaedtheea rth.htm

http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/dinosaurspart2.htm

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2005 at 07:11
Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

Originally posted by Charles Charles wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey.

 

Joy Division..

Peter Hook worshipped Hawkwind and cites Lemmy as his major influence...

Ian Curtis was responsible for introducing the band to Kraftwerk...

Barney Sumner loved David Bowie and also cites Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music as one of his influences...

Stephen Morris had many influences on his drumming, but the Jaki Leibeizeit influence is obvious...

Charles

true ive also read that Pete Shelly Of The Buzzcocks loved Can and alot of krautrock 

I'm not sure about the CD reissue, but the original vinyl version of the double album compilation Cannibalism had a sleevenote by Pete Shelley, who said that he would not have started playing guitar were it not for Michael Karoli and Marc Bolan.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2005 at 07:30
answer is elp. infact peter hammil is one of the influences to johnny rotten ( sex pistols) so van der graaf generator cant take all of the hate 
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