Mars Volta vs Radiohead

Certif1ed wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Certif1ed wrote: Logos wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Logos wrote: Because we're on a prog site, and this is a poll with one prog band and one non-prog band, I'll go for the prog band . Hmm if you picked Radiohead i will utterly destroy you Of course I didn't What, you didn't pick the prog band??? I hope that was meant as irony and NOT implying that you meant that radiohead was the prog band... Nope. Since Radiohead have clearly produced 3 excellent prog albums, and I'm only familiar with one TMV album, the assumption from that conversation clearly indicated that there was only one prog band - so it had to be Radiohead. Logic

So basically what you are saying is: The mars volta is not prog?

maidenrulez wrote: Certif1ed wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Certif1ed wrote: Logos wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Logos wrote: Because we're on a prog site, and this is a poll with one prog band and one non-prog band, I'll go for the prog band . Hmm if you picked Radiohead i will utterly destroy you Of course I didn't What, you didn't pick the prog band??? I hope that was meant as irony and NOT implying that you meant that radiohead was the prog band... Nope. Since Radiohead have clearly produced 3 excellent prog albums, and I'm only familiar with one TMV album, the assumption from that conversation clearly indicated that there was only one prog band - so it had to be Radiohead. Logic So basically what you are saying is: The mars volta is not prog?

No - I'm not saying that, I'm applying logic based on the facts I have to hand to the above argument that stated that only one was a prog band.

Having re-listened to the title track of "De-Loused In The Crematorium", I would disagree that only one is a prog band - but TMV do sound a little bit "wannabe" rather than real prog.

Everything is in place for a very standard rock song, with extended "fills" and bridges - a practice familiar to any Led Zeppelin fan. The riffs are overly complex, rhythmically speaking, in places - as if done for it's own sake, and there's only a partial feel for the overall structure - too much of a testosterone fuelled need to "get on with it" rather than let the music develop organically, and giving in to that irritating trend of going off at a tangent when compositional ideas run out.

TMV show promise - and perhaps even a little Radiohead influence in places - but the vocalist is hardly progressive at all. The music overall has that fashionable feel that progressive metal has; clinging tightly to standard tried and tested metal type sounds while trying to baffle the audience with "complex" riffs and time changes. The spacey interludes have been done before as well. I feel like I'm listening to samples from a Pink Floyd or Hawkwind album. Some of Beck's work stops and drops down to sections of noise or even random samples of music from elsewhere - but Beck has far more style, originality and a better sense of the bigger picture.

I get none of that listening to, for example, "Paranoid Android".

So from what I have heard, and the evidence inherent in the music, Radiohead are the more progressive of the two.

Simple

Certif1ed wrote: TMV show promise - and perhaps even a little Radiohead influence in places - but the vocalist is hardly progressive at all. The music overall has that fashionable feel that progressive metal has; clinging tightly to standard tried and tested metal type sounds while trying to baffle the audience with "complex" riffs and time changes. The spacey interludes have been done before as well. I feel like I'm listening to samples from a Pink Floyd or Hawkwind album. Some of Beck's work stops and drops down to sections of noise or even random samples of music from elsewhere - but Beck has far more style, originality and a better sense of the bigger picture. I get none of that listening to, for example, "Paranoid Android".

Very true ... that song is one, if not THE example of Radiohead's progressiveness. I had a bootleg of Mike Keneally playing that song live - just vocals and one slightly distorted guitar. AMAZING!

goose wrote: Certif1ed wrote: the title track of "De-Loused In The Crematorium" Eh?

Serves me right for typing quickly...

Radiohead for me!!!

Ok Computer must be the best musical efford from the ´90, and a personal favorite of mine...I say its in my top 5!

Spiritus wrote: Certif1ed wrote: goose wrote: Certif1ed wrote: the title track of "De-Loused In The Crematorium" Eh? Serves me right for typing quickly... There is no title track on de-loused...

Oh well, whatever the flip the track is called that's free on this site then.

It's the proliferation of Prog Metal fanboys, no doubt. Can't hear the music for the bling.