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yargh
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Joined: October 04 2005
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Posted: October 25 2005 at 15:32 |
Aqualung is not prog. The "proggiest" thing about it is the worst track, 'My God.'
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TURK182!
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Joined: August 12 2005
Location: Canada
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Posted: October 25 2005 at 17:05 |
Jesus! Im so confuse. I tought they was all prog!!!
And Im still think it!!!
But, cannot do a remark on DSOTM, commercial sound...
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"A Flower!!!"
"If you go down to Willow farm, you look for Butterflies..."
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fender101
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Joined: August 16 2005
Location: Australia
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Posted: October 25 2005 at 23:50 |
stonebeard wrote:
fender101 wrote:
eduardossc wrote:
Going for the one = PROG-POP
Dark side of the moon = Easy listening prog
Aqualung = .....prog
The Lamb = pure prog
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I dont like you mate I have never seen a more bias person in my whole life. I understand you like genesis but for gods sake work it out the lamb is not PURE PROG thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Look at the results to the poll and you'll see that Im not the only one that thinks so.
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F*ck, man! He was just giving his opinion! Reread your post, and you'll find that you come off as a dismissive dick.
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And I was just giving my opinion, except I didnt have to resort to petty name calling! You see it's people who can't admit that something they love has a fault that cause me stress (not that not really being prog is a bad thing). My favourite band is pink floyd but believe me I dont think that dark side is prog at all just like I dont think many of those other albums are.
If eduardossc can admit that the lamb is not "pure prog" then I'll be happy!
Dissmissive??? Maybe
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Well McGarnical Billy is dead! They slit his throat from ear to ear!
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Cygnus
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Joined: July 12 2005
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 08:40 |
If DSOTM isn't prog then this site has a very big problem, since it is the second best rated album after CTTE.
And Ithink it is a prog site right?
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eduardossc
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Joined: July 15 2005
Location: Mexico
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Points: 257
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 10:13 |
fender101 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
fender101 wrote:
eduardossc wrote:
Going for the one = PROG-POP
Dark side of the moon = Easy listening prog
Aqualung = .....prog
The Lamb = pure prog
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I dont like you mate I have never seen a more bias person in my whole life. I understand you like genesis but for gods sake work it out the lamb is not PURE PROG thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Look at the results to the poll and you'll see that Im not the only one that thinks so.
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F*ck, man! He was just giving his opinion! Reread your post, and you'll find that you come off as a dismissive dick.
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And I was just giving my opinion, except I didnt have to resort to petty name calling! You see it's people who can't admit that something they love has a fault that cause me stress (not that not really being prog is a bad thing). My favourite band is pink floyd but believe me I dont think that dark side is prog at all just like I dont think many of those other albums are.
If eduardossc can admit that the lamb is not "pure prog" then I'll be happy!
Dissmissive??? Maybe
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Be happy. I admit "The lamb" is not "pure prog" since it has some simple songs, probably even pop song. which I mention next: "Counting out time", "Cuckoo cocoon", "In the rapids", and "the carpet crawlers". Any other songs apart of these are definitely not pop, nor plain classic rock, nor anything from the mainstream. ....I dare you to mention one that doesn´t have one or more than one detail that places the song apart from ordinary music.
Now, about "Dark side", mention one single song that could be considered "pure prog" ¡¡. Or better, mention more than 7 songs from "The wall" that has any rock. Not to mention Prog.
"Atom Heart mother" and "meddle" are filled with pop and simplistic songs...these albums are some of the least prog albums, still, those simplistic songs don´t make of these albums "less prog" do they?. At least not to the general opinion eyes.
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eduardossc
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Joined: July 15 2005
Location: Mexico
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 12:04 |
the result of this poll is ridiculous.
Disregarding the absurd number of votes for "The lamb", "Going for the one" is prog for only the first 5 minutes of Awaken. "Dark side´s" most progressive moment is the first minute in "Time" after the clocks sound effects.
Edited by eduardossc
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
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Points: 6336
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 19:19 |
The only one that I dont consider prog is Aqualung!!!
And Going for the one is completly prog!!! Come on...Awake!!!
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Jamalama
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Joined: October 25 2005
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 19:27 |
Aqualung and Dark Side of the Moon are more prog than most people give
credit for. Both contain elements of more common prog albums, but
more importantly, both are concept albums, which is prog in and of
itself.
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cucacola54
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Joined: July 11 2005
Location: Mexico
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Points: 1729
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 20:02 |
Aqualung by a bit over DSOTM imo... both great albums by the way
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The Wizard
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Joined: July 18 2005
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 20:29 |
I'd hate to say this, but Aqualung.
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fender101
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Joined: August 16 2005
Location: Australia
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Posted: October 27 2005 at 00:19 |
eduardossc wrote:
fender101 wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
fender101 wrote:
eduardossc wrote:
Going for the one = PROG-POP
Dark side of the moon = Easy listening prog
Aqualung = .....prog
The Lamb = pure prog
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I dont like you mate I have never seen a more bias person in my whole life. I understand you like genesis but for gods sake work it out the lamb is not PURE PROG thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Look at the results to the poll and you'll see that Im not the only one that thinks so.
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F*ck, man! He was just giving his opinion! Reread your post, and you'll find that you come off as a dismissive dick.
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And I was just giving my opinion, except I didnt have to resort to petty name calling! You see it's people who can't admit that something they love has a fault that cause me stress (not that not really being prog is a bad thing). My favourite band is pink floyd but believe me I dont think that dark side is prog at all just like I dont think many of those other albums are.
If eduardossc can admit that the lamb is not "pure prog" then I'll be happy!
Dissmissive??? Maybe
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Be happy. I admit "The lamb" is not "pure prog" since it has some simple songs, probably even pop song. which I mention next: "Counting out time", "Cuckoo cocoon", "In the rapids", and "the carpet crawlers". Any other songs apart of these are definitely not pop, nor plain classic rock, nor anything from the mainstream. ....I dare you to mention one that doesn´t have one or more than one detail that places the song apart from ordinary music.
Now, about "Dark side", mention one single song that could be considered "pure prog" ¡¡. Or better, mention more than 7 songs from "The wall" that has any rock. Not to mention Prog.
"Atom Heart mother" and "meddle" are filled with pop and simplistic songs...these albums are some of the least prog albums, still, those simplistic songs don´t make of these albums "less prog" do they?. At least not to the general opinion eyes.
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Thanks mate now we can get on with our beautiful friendship!
Pink Floyd are really just a rock band who had a dab in progressive music Piper and Animals are the only 2 Prog albums they made. The rest are really rock albums with some prog tracks (AHM, Meddle, ASOS, The Wall, DSOTM)
Cheers mate
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Well McGarnical Billy is dead! They slit his throat from ear to ear!
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Fritha
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Joined: August 10 2005
Location: Finland
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Posted: October 27 2005 at 16:42 |
Jamalama wrote:
Aqualung and Dark Side of the Moon are more prog than most people give credit for. Both contain elements of more common prog albums, but more importantly, both are concept albums, which is prog in and of itself. |
And in the case of DSOTM I'm still waiting for somebody to point those "elements of more common prog albums" out for me. Only Eduardo has come up with a clear example so far and he doesn't even think of that record as prog! (Wise as he is )
Also, those of you, who are eager to defend the progginess of DSOTM, ought to come up with something more substancial than just pointing to the actual concept. First of all, it's not an idea at all exclusive to prog. (Bruce Springsteen's "Rising" anyone? And that is just one example.) Second of all, the music is of umm, some importance as well, if I have not all together misunderstood this whole prog thingy... Which reminds me of what one of the interviewees in the documentary The Making of The Dark Side of the Moon said, stating that most people don't even realise how very simple the music on said album is. What other band (without as much as one "prog-standard" musician at that) can get away with making simple music, no matter how great, and have it top a prog ranking list >hint Mojo/Q special issue of prog hint<
Did I provoke enough to have a clear answer now?
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