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jamesbaldwin 
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 Posted: May 19 2022 at 18:23 |
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Mini reviews:
Logan - Stringtonics: almost ambient instrumental piece that improves in the finale (at first it sounds like Morricone, doesn't it, Greg?) Meltdowner - J. Bibiloni: I don't know this musician (Italian surname?), who offers us a long ambient instrumental piece that grows in rhythm with the passage of time. So far two atmospheric pieces that I would call interlocutors. Me - 1) Taranta Nera, directly from the Notte della Taranta, a musical event from Salento, Puglia, which takes place every summer, where the ethnic dances are danced, here is a group that combines ethnic Apulian music (the Taranta dance) with music African ethnic. 2) Napoli Centrale, which I knew only by name, I discovered to be considered one of the most original Italian prog groups together with Perigeo by Italian music critics, especially if they love jazz. Dear prog lovers, if you want to learn more I recommend Napoli centrale and Perigeo, which have uniquely combined Miles Davis' jazz-rock with Neapolitan music (and therefore Mediterranean, tribal, ethnic, folk). 3) Dissòi Logòi, of which I already proposed a piece a year ago, as suitkees rightly remembers, are a trio made up of percussionist, pianist and bassist / guitarist, who engage in indefinable syncretic music that ranges from jazz to avant-garde, from folk / ethnic to new age, collaborating with musicians of all kinds, and this piece proves it, to me it seems Mediterranean especially in the faster part, where there are also Indian tablas (piano, percussion, drums, sounds of objects, tablas, electric guitar, bass, violin). Mila - 1) Monsieur Doumani: interesting arrangement based on the trombone and on a string instrument that I do not know, with a sound similar to the mandolin. Cypriot song filmed in ancient theater 2) Dahfer Youssef is instead Tunisian and puts together clarinet, gironde (I think) and another string instrument, more cello, here we are more in the jazz field - another very beautiful song with a very original sound 3) Derby Motoreta is instead Spanish and you can see it from the passionate, the very macho baritone voice, the pumped melody, of the three is the most melodic and commercial piece, with moments halfway between the bombastic and the epic. Final with prog style change of pace. Three very, very original pieces, among the three I prefer the second. |
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Lewian
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Posted: May 20 2022 at 08:33 |
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Thanks a lot for the playlist!
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Mila-13
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Posted: May 20 2022 at 15:01 |
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I'll start here with the comments. I'll post one by one and hope to make it through until Sunday, at least with regard to those of you who made several suggestions.
Lorenzo Officina Zoè, Baba Sissoko, Mamani Keita, Sourakhata Dioubate: Being familiar with both, the Apulian/Salentine Pizzica Taranta and the music of Africa, here specifically the music of Malian griots, I was very excited about this collaboration. Voices and percussions play an essential role in both music cultures. So at second glance it is actually not surprising that two geographically so distant cultures are closer at heart than one would expect. Napoli Centrale: An interesting blend of 1970s jazz-rock and Neapolitan popular music including lyrics sung in Neapolitan dialect. Dissòi Lògoi: This piece is difficult to assign to a specific genre. It is a blend of jazz, prog, experimental and minimalist classical music. Despite the title "Delfini", I can't necessarily recognise elements of Mediterranean music culture, but imo that plays a subordinate role here because the album title "Different Traditions" definitely lives up to its promise. The mixing of different musical traditions reveals in fact Dissoi Logoi's stylistic signature. Moreover, Paolo Fresu is also on board for this project. I am particularly pleased to get to know his joy in experimenting. All three are interesting and original suggestions. They are different musical cocktails, so it is hard to say which one I like better. But I lean towards contemporary music. So, for me it's the third.Thanks a lot for your comments, Lorenzo, much appreciated! - The local string instrument played by the Cypriot group is a so called "tzouras" (turk. cura). It is related to the bouzouki but with a much smaller body, giving it a distinctive tone. Normally threre are three pairs of strings, like with the bouzouki. But there is also an eight string variety. - As for my Spanish choice, I actually had another relatively new Andaluzian psych rock band in mind but unfortunately it turned out that they were already listed in the archives. Kees Tarmac: I’m familiar with
the folk-rock band Louise Attaque but not with this duo. It is remarkable what
is musically possible with such a reduced acoustic instrumentation. This comes
together with beautiful vocals and poetic and socially committed lyrics. Debout sur le zink: Here too some folk-rock but with varied musical influences such as French traditional music, gypsy jazz, klezmer and maybe more combined with critical texts. It is a band with many members and a rich acoustic instrumentation. Orange Blossom: Here we
have a world music group that skillfully combines Arabic sounds with western electronic
beats. I attended one of their concerts some years ago. Basically, I tend to
listen to more contemporary music which speaks in favour of Orange Blossom. But
I also like the simplicity of Tarmac which has its very own charm, including certain characteristics of the timeless French chanson. Thank you too for your kind feedback! I'm not quite sure what I'm going to nominate. In any case I'm interested in contributing to musical diversity. I'll wait and see what the others choose. It would be great if we could nominate two songs each because there are only ten of us. Then again some people have only made one suggestion so far. Anders Iness Mezel: There are numerous French and Belgian musicians with roots in the Maghreb region and the Middle East who bring together the musical styles of both cultures. But Iness Mazel clearly stands out here. In this recording you can hear besides the sounds of Algerian Berber music influences of western blues and rock which is rare and rather unusual for a female artist. - I learned from an article that this album was produced by Justin Adams who added to the African blues and rock influences with his guitar and other string instruments. Adams has collaborated with various big names such as Robert Plant and Brian Eno among others and has worked as a producer for the desert blues group Tinariwen and other musicians from African and Arabic traditions. Nadah El Shazly: I would classify the work of this Egyptian artist as electronic avant-garde. Here too, we have a fusion with traditional oriental sounds and traditional acoustic instruments, but it is a very contemporary, rather experimental approach. I personally am very interested in contemporary and experimental music. However, this one requires repeated listening.
Iness Mezel’s music is more accessible but no less interesting. Her
music is emotional and a pleasure to listen to while Nadah El Shazly is more on
the intellectual, experimental side. Even though I’m familiar with Iness' work I would suggest in
the context of this poll to go with her. Christian Patrizio Fariselli: Here we have folk music of various origins i.a. oriental, and electronica with jazz and rock influences. A very complex and interesting composition. Obviously Fariselli is a big name and is esp. appreciated by prog music connoisseurs. Although I do recognise the artistic abilities of Fariselli, I must say
that for me there are a little too many different musical styles involved in this
composition. Somehow, it doesn't really convince me. Edited by Mila-13 - May 22 2022 at 16:43 |
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Cristi
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Posted: May 22 2022 at 10:01 |
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Is it time for final nominations?
I nominate Enrico Simonetti - Oceano.
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The Anders
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Posted: May 22 2022 at 11:16 |
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Yes, you can pick your nominations now
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Hiram
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Posted: May 22 2022 at 14:04 |
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I can't think of anything better, so mine is Zu & Eugene Chadbourne - Iron Man.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: May 22 2022 at 17:44 |
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Mini reviews:
Christian: Goran Bregovic's Balkan music, in its cinematic version has an ambivalent appeal on me: I find it brilliant and exuberant but also tacky and exaggerated, I confess that I prefer the more melodic versions that some Italian artists can do ... I like Ederlezi more. Fariselli: Arabic song, certainly my favorite, beautiful instrumental ending. Kees: Tormac's video, if I exclude the pleasant sound of the French sung, does not appeal to me, while Orange Blossom offers Arabic-like melodic music on a commercial electronic basis. I definitely prefer Debout sur le Zinc, a rhythmic pop song, all in all commercial but in an intelligent way, also thanks to an enthralling rhythm. Hiram: I don't know this Italian avant-prog band, I see that the song goes from the band sound to the distorted one with changes of rhythm, perhaps Balkan, given the presence of the winds ... almost insane song, certainly tending to the Dadaist confusion of Zappa-ist origin, interesting song, certainly extreme The Andres - Iness Mezel: French Arabian song, with electronic percussion, I think, to which are added distorted guitars, not bad. Mahimya is a decidedly repetitive Egyptian song in an obsessive way on the same rhythmic basis, it is embellished by the voice and some dissonant piano touches: I prefer it. Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 22 2022 at 17:47 |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Lewian
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Posted: May 22 2022 at 17:56 |
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I had a listen to the playlist but didn't have the time to really concentrate on all of it, so I don't have much to say. Under these circumstances Dhafer Youssef and Tarmac made most of an impression, meaning that I like these, but it doesn't mean I don't like the others. I'll nominate Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal, as I'm somewhat embarrassed by not having had on the radar that Ederlezi had already been nominated, and I have difficulties nailing down who exactly did Black Cat White Cat (OK that wouldn't be a problem with nominating it but anyway, a decision must be made). |
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Mila-13
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Posted: May 23 2022 at 03:22 |
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I've been participating in these polls for a year now and have never seen any of those songs.
Edited by Mila-13 - May 23 2022 at 03:45 |
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suitkees
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Posted: May 23 2022 at 05:51 |
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Thanks to those commenting! It doesn't make the choice for nomination easier... I've already nominated Orange Blossom before and I might reserve Debout sur le zinc for another time, because initially I thought to nominate Tarmac. And, for now, Tarmac suits Kees. So, Tarmac is my nomination.
Edited by suitkees - May 23 2022 at 06:55 |
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suitkees
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Posted: May 23 2022 at 06:03 |
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@Anders: The Nadah el Shazly track really intrigues me and will incite me to listen to her album. Sounds quite special; musical and playful at the same time. For now, I'm more captivated by Iness Mezel, but this might change upon subsequent listens of the Nadah el Shazly song (and her album)...
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The Anders
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Posted: May 23 2022 at 06:24 |
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I've updated the poll with nominations. Logan, Meltdowner and The Dark Elf only submitted one track, so unless they state otherwise, I will count these as their nominations.
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The Anders
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Posted: May 24 2022 at 06:02 |
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I added the suggestions of Logan, Meltdowner, Kees and The Dark Elf. I await nominations from Lorenzo and Mila.
Edited by The Anders - May 24 2022 at 09:09 |
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Posted: May 24 2022 at 08:15 |
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Logan Stringtronics - Mediterranee. It has a relaxed, kind of jazzy feel to it. I love the interplay between the bass and the electric piano. Some quite melancholic strings are added, as well as a discreet guitar in the left channel. I only wish it could have gone on for a few more minutes, but very enjoyable track. Meltdowner Joan Biblioni - Sa Fosca. This one is filled with synths, but there is also an understated guitar, as well as a repeated acoustic guitar figure in 5. There is kind of an "underwater" feel to it. Around halfway, some very 80's sounding drums enter the soundscape. There is even some gated percussion. Quite jazzy overall. Jamesbaldwin Officina Zoe & Tarranta Nera - Santu Paulu. Combining an African music culture with a European folk music tradition is rather tongue-in-cheek (how often do I see a violin and an accordion on the same stage as African drums), but it works very well nevertheless. Also interesting to watch the drum solo at the beginning. He is obviously adjusting the pitch of the drum with his elbow. Harmonically, the song features the Lydian mode which I don't hear very often. I love the rhythmic "lightness", f.e. the fact that it doesn't emphasize the downbeat. Only thing is, after the vocals have set in, I miss a break or two at some point (f.e. with percussion only). Apart from that, very enjoyable track. Mila Monsieur Doumani - Alavrostishiotis. I wonder if they were inspired by the film Pink Floyd Live at Pompeii. I knew the band, but I hadn't heard this song before. It's quite minimalist, building a tension very slowly. I also love the wonderfully restrained vocals. Strong contender. Dhafer Youssee - 39th Gülay (To Istanbul). This one mixes instruments like the oud and the cimbaom with jazz, featuring a complex rhythmic structure. Derby Motoreta's Burrita Kachimba - Nana Del Caballo Grande. We're moving towards the area of metal here. It blends well with the Arbic melody and singing. Taste-wise I personally prefer the Monsieur Doumani track.
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The Anders
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Posted: May 24 2022 at 10:21 |
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Lewian I know Goran Bregovic, but I am not overly familiar with him. Ederlezi has a slow oompah rhytm with mostly brass instruments. It gradually grows in tension with the addition of vocal harmonies and at last a choir. The singing adds a lot of edge to the track. Black Cat White Cat turns into a sort of dance track, but still with with lots of Balkan brass and, dare I say, a certain tango feel to it (the violin). Suitkees Tarmac - Notre epoque. Very laid back track with acoustic guitar and electric piano as the most prominent instruments, as well as some real life sounds. Enjoyable track. Debout sur le Zinc - Les Moutons. Like the Black Cat White Cat this one has a Romani feel to it, but there is a quirkiness to the music which (call me crazy if you want) reminds me of Blur! I like this one better that the Tarmac one. Orange Blossom - Yazaman is more to the oriental side with a Middle Eastern singing style and the use of an Arabic scale. It turns into a sort of folktronica thing. Jamesbaldwin (part 2) Napoli centrale - Campagna: Classic jazz/rock fusion from the 1970's with the prominence of Fender Rhodes (or is it a Wurlitzer?) and drums. Enjoyable track with some not too predictably chord changes along the way. My favourite part is probably the more dissonant section from around 6:00.
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Posted: May 24 2022 at 15:31 |
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Sorry for the delay! I had a problem with my internet connection. I see that we have quite a few oriental pieces in the mix. Dhafer Youssef was actually my first choice but for the sake of musical diversity I decided to submit something else at short notice. My other two choices didn't quite convince me, after all. So some flamenco jazz is what you're gonna get instead. The line-up is top notch and the album is brand new. Given that it is basically jazz, I assume that the enthousiasm is going to be moderate, but well.
Chano Dominguez Trio: Afro Flamenco (Album: Chabem, 2022) Edited by Mila-13 - May 24 2022 at 16:32 |
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The Anders
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Posted: May 24 2022 at 15:57 |
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So at the moment I am waiting for Lorenzo.
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Posted: May 24 2022 at 16:38 |
My nomination is: Dissòi Logòi: Delfini.
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Posted: May 24 2022 at 17:39 |
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OK, voting is open.
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