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Topic: Interactive Mediterranean Poll
Posted By: The Anders
Subject: Interactive Mediterranean Poll
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 07:00
Hi, and welcome to the next Interactive Poll. For this edition I have decided to focus on Mediterranean music. By Mediterranean we understand the countries around the Mediterranean sea, that is, southern Europe, northern Africa and the Levant.

The concept is the same as that of the previous Latin American, African and Asian polls: The music should be either: from the Mediterranean region or inspired by Mediterranean music in one way or another.

Now obviously, as with everywhere else, many different types of music are being made in the Mediterranean region, and for this poll there are no genre restrictions. However, if you choose prog, please don't pick too well known music. Also, please don't pick too long tracks (I'd say up to circa 10 minutes is fine).

You should have your nomination ready on Sunday the 22nd at latest. Until then, you are free to suggest up to three songs or musical pieces, but no more. Once all nominations are in, you can vote for three entries others than your own, so this is business as usual.

I wish you all the best of luck :)



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 07:19
Very nice idea for a poll. As soon as I saw this topic, this immediately sprang to mind:

Stringtronics - Mediterranee



I love Stringtronics' Mindbender.

If that embed doesn't work for people, try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7RFI-l9muo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7RFI-l9muo


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 09:24
Smooth vibes from Mallorca Cool



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 09:46
So is it music from the Mediterranean countries? Or is this some kind of a specific sound? Confused

 



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 10:39
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

So is it music from the Mediterranean countries? Or is this some kind of a specific sound? Confused

 



It is music from Mediterranean countries, or music with Mediterranean influence in one way or another. Like I said, there are no genre restrictions Smile


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 10:47
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

So is it music from the Mediterranean countries? Or is this some kind of a specific sound? 

 



It is music from Mediterranean countries, or music with Mediterranean influence in one way or another. Like I said, there are no genre restrictions Smile

I still don't know what a "Mediterranean influence" is. Confused


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 10:51
^ Well there's a lot to choose from. It could be, say, Spanish flamenco, Italian prog, a particular composer or band, any folk music tradition, north African or Middle Eastern music cultures. Just to name a few options. There are many more or course.


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 10:53
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

^ Well there's a lot to choose from. It could be, say, Spanish flamenco, Italian prog, a particular composer or band, any folk music tradition, north African or Middle Eastern music cultures. Just to name a few options. There are many more or course.

ok, thank you, I'll see what I can do. 


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 14:00

This is the one for me, thank you Anders! But where should I start? I'll take a look at my collection. Let me see what I can find for you guys. Smile



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 14:42
Oh Oh, The Anders, you invite me to my land!



From the South of Italy with fury:






Dont miss this video


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 16:30

From Cyprus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0PbIWPSPVk" rel="nofollow - Monsieur Doumani - Alavrostishiotis  (Album: Pissourin, 2021)

Coming from different musical backgrounds, but influenced by the Cypriot tradition at various levels, Monsieur Doumani compose music that draws inspiration from contemporary Cypriot society as well as from the shaky conditions of our era. The initial identity of the project was determined by the adaptation of Cypriot traditional pieces, with a special contemporary colour in sound and mood, forming a style distinctively of their own. With their fourth record Pissourin (2021) they push their trademark Mediterranean sonics into a deep psychedelic and avant-folk direction.

This performance of their song "Alvatrostishiotis" was filmed at Kourion. Kourion was an important city-kingdom in antiquity and stands as one of the most impressive archeological sites in Cyprus. I may change the song later but to start with, I wanted to bring here the images and atmosphere of this unique and beautiful Mediterranean island.

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From Tunisia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY_bi_2yikU" rel="nofollow - Dhafer Youssef: 39th Gülay (to Istanbul)  (Album: Birds Requiem, 2013)

Some of you may know this excellent and versatile jazz musician but there is always someone you can surprise. Enjoy!

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From Spain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhwirlRRh4Q" rel="nofollow - Derby Motoreta's Burrita Kachimba: Nana Del Caballo Grande (Selftitled debut album, 2019)

An Andalusian rock band formed in Seville in 2017 with varied influences such as flamenco, psychedelic rock, progeressive rock and stoner rock.

The song is from their debut, selftitled album which was released in 2019. The lyrics are based on a poem by Federico Garcia Lorca. This song has been performed before by Camaron de la Isla, considered by many the best contemporary flamenco singer ever. He passed away in 1992 at the age of just 41.



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 16:35
How mediterraenean are the Balkans actually?
Anyway, here's some Goran Bregovic.
Ederlezi...
...and as an encore the theme of Black Cat White Cat.






Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 16:51


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 13 2022 at 17:14
Mila: Yeah... Bregovic is Bosnian-Herzegovian as far as I know, and I now found a stretch of Mediterranean coast of that country, so he should qualify if we go for this criterion. Just about, on some maps it looks as if they don't touch the sea, but then Bregovic is on record for declaring himself nostalgic Yugoslavian, and then there's no doubt. Note that the term Balkan Peninsula in itself is contested these days, and "Mediterranean" not perfectly well defined either when referring to people living on land rather than the sea, but anyway, none of this is probably of any importance here as it is always the music that speaks to us. Smile


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 02:04
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

How mediterraenean are the Balkans actually?
Anyway, here's some Goran Bregovic.
Ederlezi...
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I LOVE EDERLEZI

Months ago, perhaps a year ago, a nomination of mine was:



(In the end I chose another song)




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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 02:05
@Christian, the map is actually an answer to your general question: "How Mediterranean are the Balkans?"

As for your chosen song "Ederlezi", this is a song of the orthodox Roma living in the Balkans. The song is about their biggest holiday which they celebrate on St. George's day, 6. May each year. St. George is the patron-saint of the orthodox Roma. They consider this song their anthem, so to speak. The film clip shows this very celebration.- In Les-Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer in the French Provence the Catholic Roma celebrate in a similar way, also in May. In this respect, the origin of Bregovich is not relevant really. Folk music is an important source of inspiration for him.- And yes, Bosnia and Herzegovina does have access to the Adriatic Sea. It is a narrow corridor that once was part of the Republic of Ragusa (Dubrovnik). The Ottomans had thereby gained access to the Adriatic Sea.



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 03:56
Hmm, looking at the weather forecast I might take a dive into the Mediterranean one of these coming days...

For my selection I'm staying close to home: France. However, the music might make you travel a bit further.
First a duo that came out of the - here - very popular group Louise Attack: Tarmac - Notre époque:



(original and translated lyrics https://flowlez.com/en/songs/notre-epoque-1538756/" rel="nofollow - here )


Next, maybe more typical "French", maybe not. A group that goes by the name "Debout sur le zinc" (Standing on the Bar): Debout sur le zinc - Les moutons (The Sheep):



(original and translated lyrics https://flowlez.com/en/songs/les-moutons-402592/" rel="nofollow - here )


And then a band that I've been suggesting before: Orange Blossom - Yazaman (A Long Time Ago):



(original and translated lyrics https://flowlez.com/en/songs/yazaman-1192838/" rel="nofollow - here )




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The razamataz is a pain in the bum


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 04:23
@Kees:
The Tarmac video doesn't work for me, this one does. But I'm not sure whether it's the thing you mean because it doesn't mention Louise Attack.



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 05:33
^ Yes, it is the same track, thanks!
Tarmac is the group name of the duo Arnaud Samuel and Gaëtan Roussel who were before in the group Louise Attack (that disbanded), so it is no surprise that Louise Attack is not mentioned...


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The razamataz is a pain in the bum


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 05:44
Number 2: Napoli centrale - Campagna




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Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 06:05
Here's Italian avant-prog band http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3005" rel="nofollow - Zu collaborating with guitarist Eugene Chadbourne on a classic song. Approach with caution. 





Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 07:07

From Tunisia (2nd suggestion):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY_bi_2yikU" rel="nofollow - Dhafer Youssef: 39th Gülay (to Istanbul)  (Album: Birds Requiem, 2013)

Some of you may know this excellent and versatile jazz musician but there is always someone you can surprise. Enjoy!

p.s. Anders, I will add this to my first post on page 1 to make things easier for you.



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 08:45
Suggestion no. 3:

Dissòi Logòi: Delfini




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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 10:59
My first suggestion is Iness Mezel - Amazone.

Iness Mezel is a French-Algerian musician. In this rather hypnotic track she mixes north African instrumentation with rock guitar. It makes for quite an interesting musical experience.




Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 14 2022 at 13:36
Out of competition:





This film ("Mediterraneo" by Gabriele Salvatore, starring Diego Abatantuono) marked a generation of Italians.

It won the Oscar for best foreign film, thanks to the stereotype of Italians unable to make war.

The director was friend with most of the actors, they started with the theater, with cabaret, in Milan.

In the film, a Turk makes Italian soldiers smoke and then steals their weapons. Smoking what? We do not know, but obviously from the way they laugh it was not just tobacco. And the lieutenant later said: Isn't it better if everyone brings us this smoke and steals our weapons?

The director said in an interview that this was the message of the film: it is better to smoke cannabis in company than to use weapons. And it is likely that the actors in the film actually smoked cannabis.

In the video, the music of the film, the Greek Sirtaki.


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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 15 2022 at 10:25
I definitely agree with the smoking vs weapons thing. I'm not so sure, though whether the intended message of that film comes across that way. These soldiers did not land in that Greek village by chance, in the fateful year of 1941. But the music is great. I wasn't aware that Giancarlo Bigazzi wrote the soundtrack. :)


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 15 2022 at 11:26
First song i thought of, tell me if it's not a good fit.


second song i thought of



Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 15 2022 at 11:45
Dick Dale (formerly Richard Monsour) was Lebanese on his father's side of the family. His uncle taught him how to play the tarabaki and oud. It is from his uncle playing on the one-string oud that Dale derived the electric version of the Eastern Mediterranean folk song "Miserlou" (popular from the 1920s onward among Turkish, Greek, Jewish and Arabic musicians), which Dale renamed "Misirlou".






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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 16 2022 at 10:26
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I definitely agree with the smoking vs weapons thing. I'm not so sure, though whether the intended message of that film comes across that way. These soldiers did not land in that Greek village by chance, in the fateful year of 1941. But the music is great. I wasn't aware that Giancarlo Bigazzi wrote the soundtrack. :)


In fact, as we know, that group of men went to the island of Castelrosso (in Greek: Megisti), a very small island in the Dodecanese to fight the war of the fascist regime against England.

In the Dodecanese there are still many buildings from the Fascist era, and I discovered by going to the island of Rhodes that the inhabitants still speak Italian.

At this point I take the opportunity for a curiosity, in the American film The guns of Navarone (Gregory Peck, David Niven, Anthony Quinn), set on an invented island of the Dodecanese, you can see some buildings of Rhodes, where much of the film was shot.

On the island of Rhodes, Anthony Quinn bought a beach, which he discovered while acting in the film, and today it still exists, named with his name, even if it is no longer managed by family members: I have been there, small but beautiful.

https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.ZI64fP_WhccqFId-KfKyVwHaE7&pid=Api&P=0&w=267&h=178" rel="nofollow - https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.ZI64fP_WhccqFId-KfKyVwHaE7&pid=Api&P=0&w=267&h=178

Palace of the Grand Master of the Knights of Rhodes, built during the fascist domination, clearly visible in the film The Guns of Navarone.




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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 17 2022 at 14:30

From Spain (3rd suggestion)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhwirlRRh4Q" rel="nofollow - Derby Motoreta's Burrito Kachimba: Nana Del Caballo Grande (2019)

An Andalusian rock band, formed in Seville in 2017, with varied influences such as flamenco, psychedelic rock, progeressive rock and stoner rock.

The song is from their debut, selftitled album which was released in 2019. The lyrics are based on a poem by Federico Garcia Lorca. This song has been performed before by Camaron de la Isla, considered by many the best contemporary flamenco singer ever. He passed away in 1992 at the age of just 41.

p.s. Anders, this too will be added to my first post on page 1.



Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 17 2022 at 15:30
@Lorenzo - I think this is medieval Gothic architecture which is rather rare in Greece. It certainly has a particular historical background but that dates back much longer. Maybe the fascists used this castle/fortress as a headquarter or something like that. But thanks for the info about Guns of Navarone. I watched that movie, but wasn't aware that it was shot on Rhodes Island. As for "Mediterraneo", it is a rather controversial film, against the historic background of the atrocities commited against the Greek population during ww2.



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 17 2022 at 18:25
Ah, the topic gives me the opportunity for the first time to play something from Patrizio Fariselli's (keyboarder of Area) delightful album 100 Ghosts. Should be on PA but isn't. Here is "Iqbal".



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 04:18

My take on the suggestions put up so far...:

Greg (Logan): Nice soothing Greekish track by Stringtronics. The Mediterranian touch is especially brought in through the guitar (and some spare castanets...). This is a kind of "Sunset at the Beach" music. Too short, though.

Samuel (Meltdowner): Didn't know Joan Bibiloni. Another soothing track, but more jazzy. Here I imagine myself in a hammock between two palm trees on a Catalan beach, sipping a cocktail (although I'm not fan of cocktails...). This is a nice synth dominated atmospheric track.

Lorenzo (jamesbaldwin): Officina Zoè, Baba Sissoko, Mamani Keita and Sourakhata Dioubate bring us with Santu Paulu a more African tinged track. Starting off with a gentle percussion this becomes more and more energetic and when the violin and bandoneon set in we're definitely on Mediterranean shores. It creates a kind of African guinguette festive atmosphere (someone said "fusion"?). Yes we dance! With Napoli Centrale we are in proggy territories, mixing jazz rock, rock, and some folk elements. Didn't know them (I think), but I like what I hear. You've been presenting us Dissòi Logòi before and I already liked it then. This one is piano dominated, with some Fripp-like guitar playing. Very jazzy at the beginning, before a more contemporary music style takes over, then mixing both into something really wonderful. Very original; this definitely is my preferred one.

Mila: Monsieur Doumani proposes us an interesting instrumentation with the electric saz and the trombone. To my ears this is a very contemporary kind of psych-folk-rock with a distinct Eastern Mediterranean flavor. Very nice. Dhafer Youssef is indeed more well known, but always good to hear, mixing traditional instruments (oud, qanun, clarinette...) in contemporary jazz rock. Great track! Never heard of Derby Motoreta’s Burrito Kachimba, but this immediately captivates me: a wonderful voice and singing style mixed here with some trance inducing (hard) rock/metal. A very good surprise, this one!

Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. I Didn't know of Patrizio Fariselli's solo outing, a jazzy, folky, Eastern mix with a very contemporary (rock) feel to it. Wonderful vocalizations. I really like this one!

suitkees: You do know that France is not the center of the world, do you?

Pekka (Hiram): Ah, ah, a Black Sabbath classic reworked by Zu and Eugene Chadbourne, adding a bit more madness to it. But it remains a classic! Interesting!

Anders: Oh yes, I like this. I remember having heard a track by Iness Mezel on the radio, but I should have paid more attention. I really dig this mix of rock and african rhythms and love her singing style. Great one!

Cristi: New Trolls with a real adagio, but in a symphonic prog sauce. Nice, but to my liking maybe a bit too timid in mixing rock and classical, this one. With Enrico Simonetti we are in soundtrack territory - a very beautiful track this one, mixing classic with rock and a touch of jazz. I prefer this one over the Trolls.

Greg (The Dark Elf): Thank you for this historical take on this indeed very famous track, Miserlou, here by Dick Dale & The Del Tones. Great all time classic! Easy to imagine this originated, for him, on an oud, maybe less obvious that it became a classic rock&roll tune...



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The razamataz is a pain in the bum


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 04:21
Clap


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 14:37
Thank you Kees for the comment :)

Here's a second suggestion from me, and it will probably be between the two. Nadah el Shazly is an Egyptian musician which I discovered a couple of years ago. The song is called "Mahmiya".




Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 15:11
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:



Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. 


This version or another one as already pointed out by Lorenzo? It seems I'm getting old. Shocked


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 15:59
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:



Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. 

This version or another one as already pointed out by Lorenzo? It seems I'm getting old. Shocked

The guy who made the video for the Black Cat White Cat theme made an error. The composer of that soundtrack is not Bregovich as many wrongly assume. It is offically composed by the Black Cat White Cat Orchestra. But in fact it is a pseudonym for the No Smoking Orchestra that was then searching for a new name since the separation with the old members was still fresh. The original No Smoking band was founded in Sarajevo in the early 1980s. They did garage/punk rock, sometimes with reference to Bosnian folk music. That's why this soundtrack is more rocking than those by Bregovich, even though he too is originally a rock musician. Kusturica has toured a lot with the No Smoking Orchestra. He always started their concerts with the famous Bogart quote from Casablanca: "I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship". Smile



Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 16:35

What a sad day! The legendary Greek composer Vangelis has passed away today due to covid. RIP grand master.



Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 17:48

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRF2N4J-pa5TbY4qKNRrsr_NXoG-rz1Cg" rel="nofollow - PLAYLIST

These are the suggested songs so far. 20 songs - 10 participants. In case you want to listen to the songs now or later and maybe even comment on them. The songs of the individual participants follow one after the other in groups.- Btw. I picked a different song from my Cypriot band.



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 17:54
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


My take on the suggestions put up so far...:

Greg (Logan): Nice soothing Greekish track by Stringtronics. The Mediterranian touch is especially brought in through the guitar (and some spare castanets...). This is a kind of "Sunset at the Beach" music. Too short, though.

Samuel (Meltdowner): Didn't know Joan Bibiloni. Another soothing track, but more jazzy. Here I imagine myself in a hammock between two palm trees on a Catalan beach, sipping a cocktail (although I'm not fan of cocktails...). This is a nice synth dominated atmospheric track.

Lorenzo (jamesbaldwin): Officina Zoè, Baba Sissoko, Mamani Keita and Sourakhata Dioubate bring us with Santu Paulu a more African tinged track. Starting off with a gentle percussion this becomes more and more energetic and when the violin and bandoneon set in we're definitely on Mediterranean shores. It creates a kind of African guinguette festive atmosphere (someone said "fusion"?). Yes we dance! With Napoli Centrale we are in proggy territories, mixing jazz rock, rock, and some folk elements. Didn't know them (I think), but I like what I hear. You've been presenting us Dissòi Logòi before and I already liked it then. This one is piano dominated, with some Fripp-like guitar playing. Very jazzy at the beginning, before a more contemporary music style takes over, then mixing both into something really wonderful. Very original; this definitely is my preferred one.

Mila: Monsieur Doumani proposes us an interesting instrumentation with the electric saz and the trombone. To my ears this is a very contemporary kind of psych-folk-rock with a distinct Eastern Mediterranean flavor. Very nice. Dhafer Youssef is indeed more well known, but always good to hear, mixing traditional instruments (oud, qanun, clarinette...) in contemporary jazz rock. Great track! Never heard of Derby Motoreta’s Burrito Kachimba, but this immediately captivates me: a wonderful voice and singing style mixed here with some trance inducing (hard) rock/metal. A very good surprise, this one!

Christian (Lewian): Oh, you copy-cat... Ederlezi has been suggested not that long ago. I love it (and the film). And I generally like the music of Goran Bregovic, thus also Black Cat White Cat (and the film!). His Balkan rock is very captivating. I Didn't know of Patrizio Fariselli's solo outing, a jazzy, folky, Eastern mix with a very contemporary (rock) feel to it. Wonderful vocalizations. I really like this one!

suitkees: You do know that France is not the center of the world, do you?

Pekka (Hiram): Ah, ah, a Black Sabbath classic reworked by Zu and Eugene Chadbourne, adding a bit more madness to it. But it remains a classic! Interesting!

Anders: Oh yes, I like this. I remember having heard a track by Iness Mezel on the radio, but I should have paid more attention. I really dig this mix of rock and african rhythms and love her singing style. Great one!

Cristi: New Trolls with a real adagio, but in a symphonic prog sauce. Nice, but to my liking maybe a bit too timid in mixing rock and classical, this one. With Enrico Simonetti we are in soundtrack territory - a very beautiful track this one, mixing classic with rock and a touch of jazz. I prefer this one over the Trolls.

Greg (The Dark Elf): Thank you for this historical take on this indeed very famous track, Miserlou, here by Dick Dale & The Del Tones. Great all time classic! Easy to imagine this originated, for him, on an oud, maybe less obvious that it became a classic rock&roll tune...


Oh yeah, wonderful work!




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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 19 2022 at 18:23
Mini reviews:

Logan - Stringtonics: almost ambient instrumental piece that improves in the finale (at first it sounds like Morricone, doesn't it, Greg?)

Meltdowner - J. Bibiloni: I don't know this musician (Italian surname?), who offers us a long ambient instrumental piece that grows in rhythm with the passage of time.

So far two atmospheric pieces that I would call interlocutors.

Me - 1) Taranta Nera, directly from the Notte della Taranta, a musical event from Salento, Puglia, which takes place every summer, where the ethnic dances are danced, here is a group that combines ethnic Apulian music (the Taranta dance) with music African ethnic.

2) Napoli Centrale, which I knew only by name, I discovered to be considered one of the most original Italian prog groups together with Perigeo by Italian music critics, especially if they love jazz.
Dear prog lovers, if you want to learn more I recommend Napoli centrale and Perigeo, which have uniquely combined Miles Davis' jazz-rock with Neapolitan music (and therefore Mediterranean, tribal, ethnic, folk).

3) Dissòi Logòi, of which I already proposed a piece a year ago, as suitkees rightly remembers, are a trio made up of percussionist, pianist and bassist / guitarist, who engage in indefinable syncretic music that ranges from jazz to avant-garde, from folk / ethnic to new age, collaborating with musicians of all kinds, and this piece proves it, to me it seems Mediterranean especially in the faster part, where there are also Indian tablas (piano, percussion, drums, sounds of objects, tablas, electric guitar, bass, violin).

Mila - 1) Monsieur Doumani: interesting arrangement based on the trombone and on a string instrument that I do not know, with a sound similar to the mandolin. Cypriot song filmed in ancient theater

2) Dahfer Youssef is instead Tunisian and puts together clarinet, gironde (I think) and another string instrument, more cello, here we are more in the jazz field - another very beautiful song with a very original sound

3) Derby Motoreta is instead Spanish and you can see it from the passionate, the very macho baritone voice, the pumped melody, of the three is the most melodic and commercial piece, with moments halfway between the bombastic and the epic. Final with prog style change of pace.

Three very, very original pieces, among the three I prefer the second.




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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 20 2022 at 08:33
Thanks a lot for the playlist!


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 20 2022 at 15:01
I'll start here with the comments. I'll post one by one and hope to make it through until Sunday, at least with regard to those of you who made several suggestions.

Lorenzo

Officina Zoè, Baba Sissoko, Mamani Keita, Sourakhata Dioubate: Being familiar with both, the Apulian/Salentine Pizzica Taranta and the music of Africa, here specifically the music of Malian griots, I was very excited about this collaboration. Voices and percussions play an essential role in both music cultures. So at second glance it is actually not surprising that two geographically so distant cultures are closer at heart than one would expect.

Napoli Centrale: An interesting blend of 1970s jazz-rock and Neapolitan popular music including lyrics sung in Neapolitan dialect.

Dissòi Lògoi: This piece is difficult to assign to a specific genre. It is a blend of jazz, prog, experimental and minimalist classical music. Despite the title "Delfini", I can't necessarily recognise elements of Mediterranean music culture, but imo that plays a subordinate role here because the album title "Different Traditions" definitely lives up to its promise. The mixing of different musical traditions reveals in fact Dissoi Logoi's stylistic signature. Moreover, Paolo Fresu is also on board for this project. I am particularly pleased to get to know his joy in experimenting.

All three are interesting and original suggestions. They are different musical cocktails, so it is hard to say which one I like better. But I lean towards contemporary music. So, for me it's the third.

Thanks a lot for your comments, Lorenzo, much appreciated! - The local string instrument played by the Cypriot group is a so called "tzouras" (turk. cura). It is related to the bouzouki but with a much smaller body, giving it a distinctive tone. Normally threre are three pairs of strings, like with the bouzouki. But there is also an eight string variety. - As for my Spanish choice, I actually had another relatively new Andaluzian psych rock band in mind but unfortunately it turned out that they were already listed in the archives.

Kees

Tarmac: I’m familiar with the folk-rock band Louise Attaque but not with this duo. It is remarkable what is musically possible with such a reduced acoustic instrumentation. This comes together with beautiful vocals and poetic and socially committed lyrics.

Debout sur le zink: Here too some folk-rock but with varied musical influences such as French traditional music, gypsy jazz, klezmer and maybe more combined with critical texts. It is a band with many members and a rich acoustic instrumentation.

Orange Blossom: Here we have a world music group that skillfully combines Arabic sounds with western electronic beats. I attended one of their concerts some years ago.

Basically, I tend to listen to more contemporary music which speaks in favour of Orange Blossom. But I also like the simplicity of Tarmac which has its very own charm, including certain characteristics of the timeless French chanson.

Thank you too for your kind feedback! I'm not quite sure what I'm going to nominate. In any case I'm interested in contributing to musical diversity. I'll wait and see what the others choose. It would be great if we could nominate two songs each because there are only ten of us. Then again some people have only made one suggestion so far.

Anders

Iness Mezel: There are numerous French and Belgian musicians with roots in the Maghreb region and the Middle East who bring together the musical styles of both cultures. But Iness Mazel clearly stands out here. In this recording you can hear besides the sounds of Algerian Berber music influences of western blues and rock which is rare and rather unusual for a female artist. - I learned from an article that this album was produced by Justin Adams who added to the African blues and rock influences with his guitar and other string instruments. Adams has collaborated with various big names such as Robert Plant and Brian Eno among others and has worked as a producer for the desert blues group Tinariwen and other musicians from African and Arabic traditions.

Nadah El Shazly: I would classify the work of this Egyptian artist as electronic avant-garde. Here too, we have a fusion with traditional oriental sounds and traditional acoustic instruments, but it is a very contemporary, rather experimental approach. I personally am very interested in contemporary and experimental music. However, this one requires repeated listening.

Iness Mezel’s music is more accessible but no less interesting. Her music is emotional and a pleasure to listen to while Nadah El Shazly is more on the intellectual, experimental side. Even though I’m familiar with Iness' work I would suggest in the context of this poll to go with her.

Christian

Patrizio Fariselli: Here we have folk music of various origins i.a. oriental, and electronica with jazz and rock influences. A very complex and interesting composition. Obviously Fariselli is a big name and is esp. appreciated by prog music connoisseurs.

Although I do recognise the artistic abilities of Fariselli, I must say that for me there are a little too many different musical styles involved in this composition. Somehow, it doesn't really convince me.

Kusturica’s work is widely known among independent cinema lovers but mainly in Europe, I guess. So I think that it would be a shame to withhold this amazing film music from those who do not know it. I would possibly give priority to the music from Black Cat, White Cat, because it is a bit more rocky and does not come from better known Bregovich but from the less known No Smoking Orchestra, which emerged from the 1980s Yugoslav/Bosnian garage/punk/folk band of the same name. That would bring some colour into the line-up, me thinks.



Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 22 2022 at 10:01
Is it time for final nominations? 
I nominate Enrico Simonetti - Oceano. Smile


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 22 2022 at 11:16
Yes, you can pick your nominations now Smile


Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: May 22 2022 at 14:04
I can't think of anything better, so mine is Zu & Eugene Chadbourne - Iron Man. 



Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 22 2022 at 17:44
Mini reviews:

Christian: Goran Bregovic's Balkan music, in its cinematic version has an ambivalent appeal on me: I find it brilliant and exuberant but also tacky and exaggerated, I confess that I prefer the more melodic versions that some Italian artists can do ... I like Ederlezi more. Fariselli: Arabic song, certainly my favorite, beautiful instrumental ending.

Kees: Tormac's video, if I exclude the pleasant sound of the French sung, does not appeal to me, while Orange Blossom offers Arabic-like melodic music on a commercial electronic basis.
I definitely prefer Debout sur le Zinc, a rhythmic pop song, all in all commercial but in an intelligent way, also thanks to an enthralling rhythm.

Hiram: I don't know this Italian avant-prog band, I see that the song goes from the band sound to the distorted one with changes of rhythm, perhaps Balkan, given the presence of the winds ... almost insane song, certainly tending to the Dadaist confusion of Zappa-ist origin, interesting song, certainly extreme

The Andres - Iness Mezel: French Arabian song, with electronic percussion, I think, to which are added distorted guitars, not bad. Mahimya is a decidedly repetitive Egyptian song in an obsessive way on the same rhythmic basis, it is embellished by the voice and some dissonant piano touches: I prefer it.




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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 22 2022 at 17:56
I had a listen to the playlist but didn't have the time to really concentrate on all of it, so I don't have much to say. Under these circumstances Dhafer Youssef and Tarmac made most of an impression, meaning that I like these, but it doesn't mean I don't like the others.

I'll nominate Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal, as I'm somewhat embarrassed by not having had on the radar that Ederlezi had already been nominated, and I have difficulties nailing down who exactly did Black Cat White Cat (OK that wouldn't be a problem with nominating it but anyway, a decision must be made).



Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 23 2022 at 03:22
I've been participating in these polls for a year now and have never seen any of those songs.



Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 23 2022 at 05:51
Thanks to those commenting! It doesn't make the choice for nomination easier... Smile

I've already nominated Orange Blossom before and I might reserve Debout sur le zinc for another time, because initially I thought to nominate Tarmac. And, for now, Tarmac suits Kees.
I know I cannot count on Lorenzo's vote so, especially for him, here's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCxOnd71VQs&list=OLAK5uy_kDD7TlV2X-d0RPMfcscRhHN5dPqhQzUVI&index=1" rel="nofollow - the whole Tarmac album ! Tongue

So, Tarmac is my nomination.


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 23 2022 at 06:03
@Anders: The Nadah el Shazly track really intrigues me and will incite me to listen to her album. Sounds quite special; musical and playful at the same time. For now, I'm more captivated by Iness Mezel, but this might change upon subsequent listens of the Nadah el Shazly song (and her album)...


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Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 23 2022 at 06:24
I've updated the poll with nominations. Logan, Meltdowner and The Dark Elf only submitted one track, so unless they state otherwise, I will count these as their nominations.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 06:02
I added the suggestions of Logan, Meltdowner, Kees and The Dark Elf. I await nominations from Lorenzo and Mila.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 08:15
Logan
Stringtronics - Mediterranee. It has a relaxed, kind of jazzy feel to it. I love the interplay between the bass and the electric piano. Some quite melancholic strings are added, as well as a discreet guitar in the left channel. I only wish it could have gone on for a few more minutes, but very enjoyable track.

Meltdowner
Joan Biblioni - Sa Fosca. This one is filled with synths, but there is also an understated guitar, as well as a repeated acoustic guitar figure in 5. There is kind of an "underwater" feel to it. Around halfway, some very 80's sounding drums enter the soundscape. There is even some gated percussion. Quite jazzy overall.

Jamesbaldwin
Officina Zoe & Tarranta Nera - Santu Paulu. Combining an African music culture with a European folk music tradition is rather tongue-in-cheek (how often do I see a violin and an accordion on the same stage as African drums), but it works very well nevertheless. Also interesting to watch the drum solo at the beginning. He is obviously adjusting the pitch of the drum with his elbow. Harmonically, the song features the Lydian mode which I don't hear very often. I love the rhythmic "lightness", f.e. the fact that it doesn't emphasize the downbeat. Only thing is, after the vocals have set in, I miss a break or two at some point (f.e. with percussion only). Apart from that, very enjoyable track.

Mila
Monsieur Doumani - Alavrostishiotis. I wonder if they were inspired by the film Pink Floyd Live at Pompeii. I knew the band, but I hadn't heard this song before. It's quite minimalist, building a tension very slowly. I also love the wonderfully restrained vocals. Strong contender.

Dhafer Youssee - 39th Gülay (To Istanbul). This one mixes instruments like the oud and the cimbaom with jazz, featuring a complex rhythmic structure.

Derby Motoreta's Burrita Kachimba - Nana Del Caballo Grande. We're moving towards the area of metal here. It blends well with the Arbic melody and singing. Taste-wise I personally prefer the Monsieur Doumani track.


Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 10:21
Lewian
I know Goran Bregovic, but I am not overly familiar with him. Ederlezi has a slow oompah rhytm with mostly brass instruments. It gradually grows in tension with the addition of vocal harmonies and at last a choir. The singing adds a lot of edge to the track. Black Cat White Cat turns into a sort of dance track, but still with with lots of Balkan brass and, dare I say, a certain tango feel to it (the violin).

Suitkees
Tarmac - Notre epoque. Very laid back track with acoustic guitar and electric piano as the most prominent instruments, as well as some real life sounds. Enjoyable track. Debout sur le Zinc - Les Moutons. Like the Black Cat White Cat this one has a Romani feel to it, but there is a quirkiness to the music which (call me crazy if you want) reminds me of Blur! I like this one better that the Tarmac one. Orange Blossom - Yazaman is more to the oriental side with a Middle Eastern singing style and the use of an Arabic scale. It turns into a sort of folktronica thing.

Jamesbaldwin (part 2)
Napoli centrale - Campagna: Classic jazz/rock fusion from the 1970's with the prominence of Fender Rhodes (or is it a Wurlitzer?) and drums. Enjoyable track with some not too predictably chord changes along the way. My favourite part is probably the more dissonant section from around 6:00.


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 15:31
Sorry for the delay! I had a problem with my internet connection. I see that we have quite a few oriental pieces in the mix. Dhafer Youssef was actually my first choice but for the sake of musical diversity I decided to submit something else at short notice. My other two choices didn't quite convince me, after all. So some flamenco jazz is what you're gonna get instead. The line-up is top notch and the album is brand new. Given that it is basically jazz, I assume that the enthousiasm is going to be moderate, but well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfeFYHxY7D0" rel="nofollow - Chano Dominguez Trio: Afro Flamenco (Album: Chabem, 2022)



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 15:57
So at the moment I am waiting for Lorenzo.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 16:38
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

So at the moment I am waiting for Lorenzo.

My nomination is:

Dissòi Logòi: Delfini.


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 16:43

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvhRiDm_rF8&list=PLRF2N4J-pa5QxmgcXkOp4jfUFSayqMfOG" rel="nofollow - PLAYLIST: Interactive Mediterranean Poll

Have fun! Smile



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 24 2022 at 17:39
OK, voting is open.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 25 2022 at 15:25
My podium:

1) Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal (Lewian) 

Fariselli is the author of the music of Arbeit Macht Frei, the Area's debut, an album that I consider the most beautiful and important Italian prog album ever.

2) Zu & Eugene Chadbourne - Iron Man (Hiram)

3) Enrico Simonetti - Oceano (Cristi) wonderful music for film, elegant, with winds and strings


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Honorable mentions:

(Well, in this poll Kees, The Anders and Mila have nominated a song different from my favourite of them...)

4) Dick Dale & the Del Tones - Misirlou (The Dark Elf) VIVA PULP FICTION!

5) Joan Biblioni - Sa Fosca (Meltdowner)

6) Iness Mezel - Amazone (Anders)






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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 25 2022 at 15:57
Thank you for the playlist, Mila. Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 25 2022 at 16:10
My pleasure! Smile


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 25 2022 at 16:13
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


Honorable mentions:

(Well, in this poll Kees, The Anders and Mila have nominated a song different from my favourite of them...)


I doubt they would have had the slightest chance next to your beloved compatriots . . Tongue



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 25 2022 at 17:37
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My podium:

1) Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal (Lewian) 

Fariselli is the author of the music of Arbeit Macht Frei, the Area's debut, an album that I consider the most beautiful and important Italian prog album ever.
 


I'm happy (but not really surprised Wink) that you like it. Area are highly regarded on PA of course, but I only heard of Fariselli's solo work more or less accidentally on Italian TV. Apparently there's quite a bit of stuff (solo or collaborations with others), some of it very good (still much that I don't yet know, so I can't tell how much is actually good, but I love what I know), and I've never seen this mentioned on PA.

By the way, is there any Italian TV music show you'd recommend?


Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 26 2022 at 03:35
Great listen overall, thanks to all! Thumbs Up

In the end, my three preferred ones are:
- Dissòi Logòi - Delfini ; I love this mix of contemporary music and jazz, right up my ally.
- Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal ; great diversity, sonically intriguing, freshness and accessibility.
- Iness Mezel - Amazone ; on the rocky side of the Mediterranean.

With a special mention of Enrico Simonetti: a very pleasant listen!


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 26 2022 at 09:48
@Kees, I think you forgot to vote in the table above. Smile


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 26 2022 at 09:55
Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Great listen overall, thanks to all! Thumbs Up

In the end, my three preferred ones are:
- Dissòi Logòi - Delfini ; I love this mix of contemporary music and jazz, right up my ally.
- Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal ; great diversity, sonically intriguing, freshness and accessibility.
- Iness Mezel - Amazone ; on the rocky side of the Mediterranean.

With a special mention of Enrico Simonetti: a very pleasant listen!

Excellent tastes!


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 26 2022 at 09:57
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:


Honorable mentions:

(Well, in this poll Kees, The Anders and Mila have nominated a song different from my favourite of them...)


I doubt they would have had the slightest chance next to your beloved compatriots . . Tongue


Wink





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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 26 2022 at 14:58

I was vaguely considering this one for the 'Change of Seasons' poll. The video is so Italian, or should I say Neapolitan!? But knowing that pop music is not exactly what you guys are after, I picked something else instead. lol




Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 27 2022 at 15:53
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:


I was vaguely considering this one for the 'Change of Seasons' poll. The video is so Italian, or should I say Neapolitan!? But knowing that pop music is not exactly what you guys are after, I picked something else instead. lol



And you make well! 

This Neapolitan piece is terrible!


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Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 27 2022 at 15:54
Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

My podium:

1) Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal (Lewian) 

Fariselli is the author of the music of Arbeit Macht Frei, the Area's debut, an album that I consider the most beautiful and important Italian prog album ever.
 


I'm happy (but not really surprised Wink) that you like it. Area are highly regarded on PA of course, but I only heard of Fariselli's solo work more or less accidentally on Italian TV. Apparently there's quite a bit of stuff (solo or collaborations with others), some of it very good (still much that I don't yet know, so I can't tell how much is actually good, but I love what I know), and I've never seen this mentioned on PA.

By the way, is there any Italian TV music show you'd recommend?

I don't know if there are TV music shows at the moment.




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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 27 2022 at 16:25
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

@Kees, I think you forgot to vote in the table above. Smile

Oh, you're absolutely right. See how much I care about the voting part of these polls...? Wink
But it's done now, thanks!


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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: May 27 2022 at 16:31
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

I was vaguely considering this one for the 'Change of Seasons' poll. The video is so Italian, or should I say Neapolitan!? But knowing that pop music is not exactly what you guys are after, I picked something else instead. lol

<snip video>

How glad we are that you get to know us a bit by now! LOL


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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 28 2022 at 01:26

You know, I have a broad repertoire, just wait and see . . LOL Btw. Ricciardi appears multiple times on the original Gomorra soundtrack. He's a legend. But, anyway, the video is awesome, don't miss it!



Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 04:26
Sometimes when listening to these polls, I get into moshkito mode and think, these are all works of art and creativity, they all convey something (more or less) profound and are done with love and passion, so they really shouldn't be ranked, everything should be taken, respected, and appreciated as what it is.

But anyway, sometimes it's the rating aspect that makes me listen to things more than once and with more concentration to just play the game, because that's what it is... anyway...

This poll's winners for me are:
Iness Mezel, Tarmac, and Dissoi Logoi, but really there is not much between any two of these - I love the abundant playfulness of the Iron Man even though that sound isn't normally my cup of tea, the Afro Flamenco is an engaging and rewarding piece that requires several listens, the Stringtronics take me right into a nice shady place with a sea view in the Mediterranean summer and and and...



Posted By: Hiram
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 05:41
1) Dick Dale & the Del Tones - Misirlou for rock'n'roll. 
2) Enrico Simonetti - Oceano for beauty.
3) Chano Dominguez Trio - Afro Flamenco for interesting combination of flamenco and jazz piano



Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 08:20
Hiram
Zu & Eugene Chadbourne - Iron Man. Well, this is... different, and I enjoy this version a lot more than the original Black Sabbath; it is certainly not without humour. I especially love the many off-key notes, the hints at free jazz, not to mention the totally random citation of Stevie Wonder's "Master Blaster (Jammin')" towards the end. The singer's voice reminds me a lot of Peter Gabriel btw. They play the chorus almost as if it were "21st Century Schizoid Man" (maybe to underline the similarity between the two songs). Only minus is, perhaps it's a bit long for that type of song. But still a strong contender. Their concerts must be amazing.

Lorenzo
Dissòi Logòi - Delfini. Starts with a sort of Bach-like "prelude" on the piano before the other instruments come in. On the left a violin, and a guitar on the right. Interesting composition with a jazzy touch. From around 3:00 it turns into a sort of meditative noodling with a few pling-plong sounds. It then fades out, and we get a band section again towards the end. I like this a lot, and it is another strong contender. I'm pretty sure I have heard the band before btw., but not this track.

Cristi
New Trolls - Adagio. I have been listening to this album before, but it's a long time ago. As the title suggest, it's a slow number. It starts as a baroque type of movement with (I think) a clavichord, but when the vocals come in, it becomes more like classic early 70's prog, complete with a mellotron or a stringer. Enrico Simonetti - Oceano begins with a chord progression similar to the previous track, even in the same key, and it almost sounds like a postlude to the New Trolls track (which of course it is not). This one is instrumental though, and with an outstanding Rhodes piano.

The Dark Elf
Dick Dale & the Del Tones - Misirlou. This one I already knew. Typical of the instrumental style that was popular in the gap between 50's rock and roll and the Beatles. The eastern flavour is present especially in the harmonic structure and the use of an Arabic scale. Coming to think about it, his playing style sounds ahead of its time.

Lewian
Patrizio Fariselli - Iqbal. What I especially like about this one is the vocal harmonies which blend with the Arabic sounds in an interesting way. Later a jazzy piano solo. The string instrument at the end sounds like a cimbalom to me.

Mila
Chano Dominguez Trio - Afro Flamenco. There seems to be quite a lot of jazz in this edition, and this track is no exception. Maybe because jazz blends well with different Mediterranean music styles. As the title suggest, there's a Spanish touch to it as well. Enjoyable listen, but I haven't got so much to say about it to be honest.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 09:32
Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:


Lorenzo
Dissòi Logòi - Delfini. Starts with a sort of Bach-like "prelude" on the piano before the other instruments come in. On the left a violin, and a guitar on the right. Interesting composition with a jazzy touch. From around 3:00 it turns into a sort of meditative noodling with a few pling-plong sounds. It then fades out, and we get a band section again towards the end. I like this a lot, and it is another strong contender. I'm pretty sure I have heard the band before btw., but not this track.


Dissòi Logòi - they are basically a trio (pianist / keyboardist, percussionist, bassist / guitarist) who work with session men or other artists / groups, and who deliberately seek a contamination of genres: they range from jazz to avant-garde, from ethnic music Mediterranean / Eastern to the new age.

It's the second time that I propose one of their songs, the other was more in a new age / oriental style, and I remember you wrote that it was too new age for your taste.

They are a reality that has been present on the Italian scene for 40 years, with few targeted projects resulting from long elaboration. I believe that sometimes they touch very high peaks of syncretic (largely instrumental) music, and other times they seem too academic or epigonic.
In any case, they are serious artists who produce very refined music.

In Italy just few persons know them, they are published by record companies of the alternative circuit to the mainstream, often small cooperatives. Sometimes they participate in ethnic music or jazz music festivals.



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Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 13:27
My votes will go to:

Joan Bibiloni: Sa Fosca This track is one of the few that brings across this summery, fine and light Mediterranean feeling. It is jazz fusion combined with electronic ambient music. The album was released back in the1980s but has still a contemporary sound to it which is per se quite remarkable. Therefore, it does not come as a surprise that Bibiloni's music caught the attention of a Dutch electronic music label that released some of his work in 2014! - Hailing from Mallorca, Bibiloni not only played a major role in shaping the so-called Balearic sound, he is furthermore an influential producer and record label founder.

Iness Mezel: Amazone I’m familiar with this artist. But in this recording she brings together the musical traditions of her Algerian Berber roots (Kabyle people) with western blues and rock, the latter being rare and rather unusual for a female artist. – For this album (Beyond the Trance, 2011) she collaborated with British guitarist and composer Justin Adams who has worked as a producer for various musicians from African and Arabic traditions, i.a. the desert blues group Tinariwen. Furthermore, he has also collaborated with other prominent artists such as Robert Plant and Brian Eno among others.

Tarmac: Notre époque I’m familiar with the folk-rock band Louise Attaque but not with this duo. It is remarkable what is musically possible with such a reduced line-up and acoustic instrumentation. This comes together with beautiful vocals and poetic and socially committed lyrics.

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As mentioned before, I decided to replace my first choice at short notice (Dhafer Youssef) because there were quite a few oriental pieces in the mix already. I like to see musical diversity. Even though I knew that flamenco jazz wouldn’t be that popular here, I think that it brought however some colour into the line-up. My other Spanish option was a 'rock andaluz' band which was not bad but it was my second choice since it turned out that my preferred Andalusian rock band was listed in the archives.

Anders, thanks for hosting and this inspirational theme! My special thanks go out to those of you who took their time to comment! And finally, thank you all for the music. A quite pleasant listen overall! Thumbs Up




Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 29 2022 at 21:59
I am going with:
Patrizio Fariselli's "Iqbal"
Dissòi Logòi's "Delfini"
Chano Dominguez Trio's "Afro Flamenco"

An honorable mention to Dick Dale & the Del Tones' "Misirlou" which I would have more seriously considered if I hadn't already known it so very well.

Thanks for the commentaries on the tracks. I thought the Stringtronics track might be a harder sell as it is so short, but I like the brevity (especially in the context of the album). I considered mentioning some others since there is so much music I love from Italy in particular, but I knew as soon as I saw this topic that "Mediterranee" was the one I wanted to feature for its Mediterranean feel. And Mindbender is a very much cherished by me album.


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: May 30 2022 at 09:43
I voted for:
Enrico Simonetti - Oceano
Stringtronics - Méditerranée
Tarmac - Notre Époque

The third one was a difficult choice, there were many great songs.


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 30 2022 at 13:27
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Thanks for the commentaries on the tracks. I thought the Stringtronics track might be a harder sell as it is so short, but I like the brevity (especially in the context of the album). I considered mentioning some others since there is so much music I love from Italy in particular, but I knew as soon as I saw this topic that "Mediterranee" was the one I wanted to feature for its Mediterranean feel. And Mindbender is a very much cherished by me album.

'Méditerranée' is a very enjoyable track, one of the few that induces this summery and relaxed Mediterranean atmosphere. It is a pity that the piece was not a bit longer to unfold it's full effect. I listened to a few other tracks in order to get a sense of the whole album. The individual pieces are musically quite different. If I understood correctly, this is a collection of so called 'production/library music'. 'In spite of that' it seems that this album became a collectors item over the years. But it's probably because the music was written by Barry Forgie who has not only been the band leader of the BBC Big Band for many years but also worked as an arranger and composer, especially of film music. - I have not been able to comment on all contributions, thus I limited myself to those participatants who had made several suggestions to help them decide on their nominations.

I'm glad you liked my flamenco jazz piece! I would have preferred a somewhat calmer track but I mainly wanted to introduce this combo of top-class musicians who are masters of this genre. Smile



Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 30 2022 at 15:43
Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:


Thanks for the commentaries on the tracks. I thought the Stringtronics track might be a harder sell as it is so short, but I like the brevity (especially in the context of the album). I considered mentioning some others since there is so much music I love from Italy in particular, but I knew as soon as I saw this topic that "Mediterranee" was the one I wanted to feature for its Mediterranean feel. And Mindbender is a very much cherished by me album.

'Méditerranée' is a very enjoyable track, one of the few that induces this summery and relaxed Mediterranean atmosphere. It is a pity that the piece was not a bit longer to unfold it's full effect. I listened to a few other tracks in order to get a sense of the whole album. The individual pieces are musically quite different. If I understood correctly, this is a collection of so called 'production/library music'. 'In spite of that' it seems that this album became a collectors item over the years. But it's probably because the music was written by Barry Forgie who has not only been the band leader of the BBC Big Band for many years but also worked as an arranger and composer, especially of film music. - I have not been able to comment on all contributions, thus I limited myself to those participatants who had made several suggestions to help them decide on their nominations.

I'm glad you liked my flamenco jazz piece! I would have preferred a somewhat calmer track but I mainly wanted to introduce this combo of top-class musicians who are masters of this genre. Smile


Thanks Mila for the feedback and checking out more of the album and the background. I have a thing for library music. I like the eclecticism of it, but then it offers compositions by four composers, Barry Forgie, Anthony Mawer, Nino Nardini and Roger Roger, and to me it still works really well as a whole partially because of the contrasts. "Dawn Mists", which went down well when I mentioned it an an earlier poll, and "Hunted" are two of my favourites. As a sort of related album, I love Nino Nardini & Roger Roger's Jungle Obsession.

I very much enjoyed your selection, and for me it may have stood out more for not being calmer as it differentiated itself from some of the other music I really liked in this poll nicely as I recall.


Posted By: Mila-13
Date Posted: May 31 2022 at 11:14
Thank you for the recommendations, Greg! For a film music fan an extension to library music makes perfect sense. As a student I often went to the cinema, at least once a week. During that period I started collecting film scores. Nowadays I go to the cinema only from time to time, so I'm not quite up-to-date anymore with respect to new film scores. Besides I don't watch Netflix either, actually I'm boycotting them. lol




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