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It's a nice teaser song. Now if that turns out to be the best song on the album, I'll be bummed. I'll order the standard CD in June; not really interested in the bonus material.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Hopefully this will be better than The Incident

I still never heard that one. I could listen to it on youtube I suppose but it's been out of print for a while it seems. I can't find a decent copy for a decent price anywhere. 

I wouldn’t bother too much. It really was a poor album, extremely disappointing.
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Here's an article about the rumours which are true! I hope it's good. PT better not let us down like.....

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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Hopefully this will be better than The Incident

I still never heard that one. I could listen to it on youtube I suppose but it's been out of print for a while it seems. I can't find a decent copy for a decent price anywhere. 

I wouldn’t bother too much. It really was a poor album, extremely disappointing.

Disappointing sums it up very well. Other than Time Flies (which is great) the album isn't all that good.











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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It's a nice teaser song. Now if that turns out to be the best song on the album, I'll be bummed. I'll order the standard CD in June; not really interested in the bonus material.

I agree with progaardvark,  I thought the track was mediocre and I hope the LP is better than that.
I'll also wait for the reg cd....
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, etc., etc.
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I actually think that's a pretty strong song, I've gotten a lot of replay value out of it so far
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

I actually think that's a pretty strong song, I've gotten a lot of replay value out of it so far


I agree. This is often the case with Steven Wilson songs. They don't necessarily grab you at first, but on repeated plays and familiarity you end up liking them.
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Pretty good I'd say. I can imagine it working very well live. If I have any issue it's that it shouts "I'm complex prog" a bit too loudly at me.
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Pretty good I'd say. I can imagine it working very well live. If I have any issue it's that it shouts "I'm complex prog" a bit too loudly at me.


Wow! That far surpassed my expectations. I'm so happy my fears were totally wrong. If the album sounds anything like this excellent track then i'm definitely on board!

Actually i'm STOKED that it's screaming COMPLEX PROG as loud as it can! My kinda sheeeeeeeet!

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Yes! Definitely better than the Future Bites!
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It was nice to hear Harrison again in a PT song. His style is perfect for the band.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, etc., etc.
I was just listening through dr wu's ears. Wink This is not really a bad song. It's prog, so that's what's important. So, there's hope.

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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Hopefully this will be better than The Incident

I still never heard that one. I could listen to it on youtube I suppose but it's been out of print for a while it seems. I can't find a decent copy for a decent price anywhere. 

I wouldn’t bother too much. It really was a poor album, extremely disappointing.

Disappointing sums it up very well. Other than Time Flies (which is great) the album isn't all that good.

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I do not think it was that bad, as folks think, although I sure did miss the tripping part of the music which was gone in favor of songs. Were it a single album with one or two things taken out, I think it would have been way better, but it wasn't to be.

Not sure what to expect on a new PT album, and I will listen to it, but (in general) these kinds of rehashes don't go far with me, and I have never found one that was better than the original. I don't know, btw, if it is my imagination or not, but this particular song sounds like it was mailed in, not played together in a studio at all. While I do not dislike Gavin at all, I think he is way too mechanical to be a good trippy drummer, and in my book the stuff he does in this piece is not worth the mention and in fact, even in slower stuff, he is just keeping up time, instead of adding to the moment! Just poor drumming design!

I think my money is going for the newer bands and material out there ... there is too much GREAT stuff out there to be spending it on someone that is over-fed and has enough money!


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A like The Incident more than FoaBP, it's just a matter of tastes, IMO
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by yogev yogev wrote:

Incredble news!!! I still cant belive this is true, and the new single is fire. Im really suprized that Steven wanted to do a reunion, he's did'nt relese a prog album in the last like five years and I did'nt thought he's going to. So I wonder if he's doing it for the fans or the money or for himself...

(also I am wondering who is gonna be the bassist on the tour)
Initially guessing it will be Nick Beggs, he's played with SW for several years now and been playing a lot of PT material on the SW solo tours. I love his playing, wondering what's up with Colin Edwin??

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Nick, I think, will be a much more interesting and better player for the new PT. I think that Nick works on "the sound" a lot more than Colin did, which I imagine that his main focus was always the continuity of the piece and not the flash. But sometimes, a little more than just notes is needed, and Nick can provide that often enough, and might have more flexibility than Colin did.
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Originally posted by Deadwing Deadwing wrote:

A like The Incident more than FoaBP, it's just a matter of tastes, IMO
I am someone who really likes The Incident, but not more than Fear Of A Blank Planet. The bonus material on The Incident is very good, especially Bonnie the Cat.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It was a phenomenally talented band for sure. John Wesley hardly gets a mention on this thread yet he's a brilliant guitarist.
The problem is simple , can they better or at least equal what they did on In Absentia , Deadwing and Fear Of A Blank Planet? No chance whatsoever. It happened, it was great and it's done. I even go to seem them a couple of times live so that's done and dusted. I don't need Steven Wilson sneering at me from the stage again lol.


If The Incident was anything to go by, then yes they had expended all their fuel after FOABP. The Incident was a yawn fest for me. I was kind of done with them really. I came to PT very late, around the time of Deadwing, although FOABP was the first album I heard end to end, and they completely blew my mind, for a relatively short time.

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I love The Incident, and it’s easily top five PT for me. I tend to prefer their earlier material, and I’ve always felt that The Incident had more in common with, say Down the Upstair or Signify, than Fear of a Blank Planet or Deadwing. Generally speaking, those who are most disappointed with The Incident seem to be big fans of the three heavier albums that preceded it, and those who like it, are often those who like the earlier psychedelic style.

I also tend to agree with Pedro, in terms of drumming. Even if Gavin Harrison is the technically superior drummer, I far prefer Chris Maitland’s drumming for PT. For sure, I can understand why SW made the switch, when he moved to a heavier sound. But the best PT drumming for me is Chris on the Coma Divine live album (which remains my favourite PT release of all time).

I’ve not yet listened to Harridan, as I don’t like to listen to singles ahead of an album anymore. But I did listen to the short seconds long snippet that was the first promo, and I really liked that it sounded like a mix of The Future Bites and The Incident. Even when SW was telling the world he would never go back to PT he was saying that had the band carried on, the music they made wouldn’t have been so dissimilar to what he was making as SW. That short snippet bears it out, being a natural follow-on from both The Incident and TFB.
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