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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 23:52 |
Fantômas wrote:
Btw, here's my top 10 of all time:
1- Johan Cruyff 2- Ferenc Puskás 3- Alfredo Di Stéfano 4- Mathias Sindelar 5- Zoltan Czibor 6- Pedro Cea 7- Dejan Savicevic 8- Johan Neeskens 9- Pelé 10- Michael Laudrup
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My list, only those I seen:
- Edson Arantes Do Nascimento Pelé: The day when you find another 3 World Cup winner with more than 1,000 goals let me know.
- Diego Armando Maradona: Great N° 2
- Marco Van Basten: A machine
- Michel Platini: Artist and player
- Franz Beckembauer: The soldier with heart, can't forget him playing with a broken shoulder on Mexico 70 against Italy, epic.
- Johan Cruyff: Another artist
- Teofilo Cubillas: Third man with more goals in World Cup history and an artist, my Scottish friends remember him with love
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- Lev Yashin: The black spider, only seen him on video, but incredible goalkeeper.
- Zbigniew Boniek: One of the fastest men on the field ever.
- Jan Ceulemans: Too tall, heavy and slow, but the guy always managed to win every ball and made a lot of horrible but valuable goals.
Iván
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:12 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Fantômas wrote:
Btw, here's my top 10 of all time:
1- Johan Cruyff 2- Ferenc Puskás 3- Alfredo Di Stéfano 4- Mathias Sindelar 5- Zoltan Czibor 6- Pedro Cea 7- Dejan Savicevic 8- Johan Neeskens 9- Pelé 10- Michael Laudrup
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My list, only those I seen:
- Edson Arantes Do Nascimento Pelé: The day when you find another 3 World Cup winner with more than 1,000 goals let me know.
- Diego Armando Maradona: Great N° 2
- Marco Van Basten: A machine
- Michel Platini: Artist and player
- Franz Beckembauer: The soldier with heart, can't forget him
playing with a broken shoulder on Mexico 70 against Italy, epic.
- Johan Cruyff: Another artist
- Teofilo Cubillas: Third man with more goals in World Cup history and an artist, my Scottish friends remember him with love
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- Lev Yashin: The black spider, only seen him on video, but incredible goalkeeper.
- Zbigniew Boniek: One of the fastest men on the field ever.
- Jan Ceulemans: Too tall, heavy and slow, but the guy
always managed to win every ball and made a lot of horrible but
valuable goals.
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Franz Beckembauer is a wonderful player... So was Van Basten. Great list. Johan Cruyff, to me, is on the top.
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:23 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
Fantômas wrote:
Btw, here's my top 10 of all time:
1- Johan Cruyff
2- Ferenc Puskás
3- Alfredo Di Stéfano
4- <span ="post">Mathias Sindelar</span>
5- Zoltan Czibor
6- <span ="post">Pedro Cea</span>
7- Dejan Savicevic
8- Johan Neeskens
9- Pelé
10- Michael Laudrup
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I'm not old enough to have seen most of those guys play, so my alltime top 10 consists of players from more recent times.
1: Zinedine Zidane
2: Maradona
3: Hristo Stoichkov
4: Paulo Maldini
5: Gary Lineker
6: Lothar Matthäus
7: Thierry Henry
8: Ronaldinho
9: Steven Gerrard
10: Jürgen Klinsmann
Henry, Ronaldinho and Gerrard all have a long career still ahead of them, so they can easily climb a few places on the list ![](smileys/smiley1.gif) |
Of the actually playing, mine would be:
1- Zinedine Zidane
2- Kaka
3- Ronaldinho
4- Pavel Nedved
5- Shevchenko
6- Arjen Robben
7- Thierry Henry
8- Adriano
9- Wayne Rooney
10- Messi
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 21:24 |
Hey Fantomas, I missed Hristo Stoichkov, the guy was pure heart and b*lls, you could se in his face that loosing wasn't an option for him.
Wonderful player.
I don't know if most of you are too young but I remember the National team from Polland in Argentina 78 that was awesome:
Guys like Zbigniew Boniek, Kazimierz Deyna, Grzegord Lato, Henryk Kasperczak, Andrzeg Szarmach, Wladislaw Smuda and the incredible Jan Tomasewski, What a great team.
After they sent Perú to hell in 1/4 finals, I believed they deserved to be champions, we met them again in Spain 82 but this time they killed us with a clear 5 - 1.
Iván
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 10:46 |
Many great teams didn't win a world cup (see Denmark in 86, Brazil in
82, Holland in 74, Hungary in 54, etc...). It's kinda frustrating to
the lovers of a well-played football. Btw, Flamengo in 1981 was the
best team of the world. And I mean it. If that team would have gone to
the world cup in 82, the history today would be different.
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Fantômas
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 10:48 |
Oh, and the Real Madrid of Puskas and Di Stefano, to me, was the best
thing that already existed in soccer. Those were the times...
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:42 |
Fantômas wrote:
Many great teams didn't win a world cup (see Denmark in 86, Brazil in 82, Holland in 74, Hungary in 54, etc...). It's kinda frustrating to the lovers of a well-played football. Btw, Flamengo in 1981 was the best team of the world. And I mean it. If that team would have gone to the world cup in 82, the history today would be different. ![](smileys/smiley2.gif) |
I'd like to remember the bravest team I saw playing: HOLLAND 1978, specially at the final game against Argentina! They played tremendously against a huge pressure from all squares. My God, and if that Resenbrink's kick which hit the woods in the last minute had entered the net?
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:45 |
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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sleeper
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 13:11 |
What happened to Hungury, I hear they were one of the heavyweights in the 50's but what changed in the country
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: November 26 2005 at 18:21 |
Dear God! Who created this list?
Zidane was the best two years ago. Van Nisterlooy showed nothing in last season, same with Figo, Beckham and Del Piero.
OK now it`s time for my list:
1. Frank Lampard - without him Chealsea is nothing
2. Kaka - one of the most intelligent players in the world
3. Christiano Ronaldo - superb technique, too bad he can`t spread his wings in Man Utd
4. Rafael Van Der Vaart - simply amazing playmaker and scores a lot
goals too. What is he doing in HSV? he should play in Real Madrid!
5. Ronaldinho - I don`t like the guy (Barcelona sucks) but I have to
admitt he`s technique is outstanding. The whole team plays for him. he
should be playing if RM too
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Runaway
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Posted: December 16 2005 at 19:35 |
A lot of mexican players are also very good, especialy of Cruz azul and Chivas, which are my fav teams for sure.
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Posted: December 16 2005 at 20:41 |
Runaway wrote:
A lot of mexican players are also very good, especialy of Cruz azul and Chivas, which are my fav teams for sure. |
But i dont think anyone in this forum know something about Cruz Azul or Chivas ![](smileys/smiley5.gif)
Anyway, Carlos Salcido and Oswaldo Sanchez are both fantastic players... you will see them for sure in the world cup... ( of course they`re not the best soccer player in the world ), but are very good!!
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: December 16 2005 at 21:41 |
The only thing I know about soccer is that all the kids in the United States who play it have really annoying, right-wing neo-nazi mothers who drive Ford Escalades and other earth-raping-like SUVs .
So how about this "footballer"? This guy kicked a 7 pound (3.2 kilo) egg-shaped ball through a goal that was 18 1/2 feet (5.6 meters) wide and 10 feet (3 meters) off the grond, from 63 yards (57.6 meters) away, with over a ton (1,000 kilos) of men (11 of them) running straight at him. And if that wasn't impressive enough, check out the picture carefully - the guy only has half a foot!
Now that's some football!
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 05:06 |
Ronaldinho,no doubt...
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 09:01 |
- RONALDINHO
- ZIDANE
- FIGO
- DEL PIERO
- VAN NISTELROOY
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 09:09 |
None from the list. Juninho for me! this guy is genius . His job in "lyon" (France) is just incredible. The future star of the Brazilian national team!!!!
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shyman
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 10:13 |
Currently, Ronaldinho by a big difference.
If we are talking about all time players, Pelé, also by a big difference
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 17 2005 at 19:01 |
Not for the list yet, but the German members kow about the Peruvian Claudio Pizarro who has been elected the best forward of the last Champions League and a future top 10 Paolo Guerrero both from Bayern Munchen.
Also our friends from Holland know about another Peruvian Jefferson Farfán from PSV Eindhoven, this one could be a top 10 soon, he's only 21.
Iván
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Manunkind
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Posted: December 18 2005 at 08:18 |
Drew wrote:
The best soccer player is one who never plays- because its more exciting to watch someone sitting than playing that horrid game! |
Oh come on, American football is not only about sitting... there's also a lot of standing with perched buttocks involved...
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Posted: December 18 2005 at 08:45 |
KAHN - THE ULTIMATE GOALKEEPER
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