Best soccer player
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Topic: Best soccer player
Posted By: memowakeman
Subject: Best soccer player
Date Posted: September 30 2005 at 17:59
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Tell me, and if you think that the best player is other.. tell us who? for me now is Ronaldinho ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: September 30 2005 at 18:46
Kaká, for sure... 
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 02:32
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I would have to say Morientes. ------------- 
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 09:31
| There was, is and wil be only one : Johan Cruijff !! |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 12:53
| Diego Armando. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 13:25
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Cruijff and Madonna are not active as soccer players now, anyway if it was to be all time, I'd say Pele.
currently: Arjen Robben, been a fan of him ever since he played for Groningen and of course Dirk Kuijt, Ronaldinho and Zidane are good also
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 13:26
Madonna is a bit too active, I'd say! 
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tuxon wrote:Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 15:01
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The best socker player is my left foot, of course!! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 17:47
Oh, the best of all time? Then mine would be Johan Cruijff! 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 20:39
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i dont know all time best player.. maybe i`d choose maradona... but the poll is about active players by the way fantomas your avatar is really funny ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 01 2005 at 21:39
Thank you. ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 04:07
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Jerzy Dudek!! I share his surname and he won the latest Champions League for Liverpool!! ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: Hamatai
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 04:50
| From the list - Zidane |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: October 02 2005 at 22:05
Yes it is, but I confess I was far more attracted to the previous one Best player now: Oh come on, from an attacking sense, how can it not be Ronaldinho? ... the man's a magician ... Best player of all time: Diego Armando Maradona ... Pele is very close of course but the advantage he had was playing alongside many other geniuses (Garrincha, Vava, Jairzinho, Tostao and Rivellinho, for a start). My 5 favourite players of all time: Carlos Valderrama, Glenn Hoddle, Ferenc Puskas, Roberto Rivellinho and Diego Maradona. ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 19:58
| The best soccer player is one who never plays- because its more exciting to watch someone sitting than playing that horrid game! |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 03 2005 at 21:16
I agree, in part. I have to say that hot girls on underwears playing that, would be FAR more exciting! THAT would be NICE to watch! ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 19:47
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Beckham! ------------- http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=309" rel="nofollow - Humanism |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 04 2005 at 19:50
Henry of course, but why is he not on it? 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 16:00
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TO BE HONEST .. I FORGOT HIM.... HENRY IS AN EXCELLENT PLAYER ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 19:24
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Best Of All Time (retired)? 1. Maradonna My Favourite Player Of All Time: Mark "Sparky" Hughes. Career Honours: With Manchester United With Chelsea With Blackburn Rovers
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: October 05 2005 at 22:21
They've been writing the phenomenon off since his first major injury, prior to the 1998 World Cup ... I say as long this guy stays fit, he'll do the damage ... the main problem he has is that he plays for Real Madrid and Brazil ... competing for places with other titans .. one bad patch could be the end ... I still expect him to end his career as the record goal scorer in the World Cup Finals (he's got 12 from two, just 2 goals behind Gerd Muller) ... and conclude with a spectacular last hurrah ... as for international goals (56 international goals in 89 matches ... and more to come) ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 01:31
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Bumped ... for Atkingani
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Posted By: ChadFromCanada
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 02:44
| Zidane. He's brilliant. |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 04:18
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1) At this moment I am mostly impressed by Ronaldinho. A few years ago he was more a circus artist but his development is stunning: he still shows his 'out-of-this-earth'' technical abilities but he also is very effective with passing, controlling and scoring, I love to see him smiling 2) I don't like him as a person but the arrogant and provocative German midfielder Michael Ballack (Bayern Munich is one of the best in the world at this moment, I think he will join Real Madrid next year. By the way, he should have been in the Poll! 3) Yesterday evening I enjoyed the super talents from the 20-year old Rooney during Manchester United against Charlton Athletic on Match Of The Day (BBC TV), this man will be a sensation on the next World Championship in Germany 4) It's also amazing how many great Dutch players we have at this moment in foreign competitions: Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Robin Van Persie (every week better!) and of course the speedy (but injured) Arjen Robben in the UK and Rafael Van Der Vaart with HSV (Germany), we will see them in during the forthcoming World Championship too 5) Ronaldo (one of my favorite players) should play in a decent team, the unbalanced Real Madrid is build-up for commercial activities, not to win prizes with that overkill of technical players! By the way, no FORZA ITALIA this time from me... |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 05:52
I am probably the only person in the world who would use the fast in relation to Ronaldo-in both senses of the word.... Cristiano Ronaldo,however is definitely one to watch. I would just like to add my twopenneth about Arjen Robben.He was a sensation in his first season with Chelski but Premiership teams are notoriously slow at figuring players out.This season everyone seems to have his measure and he is a shadow of his self from his debut season.Over-rated. |
Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 06:26
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Ronaldinho is the best player in the world atm, no doubt about that. Zidane's era as the best is unfortunately over, he's getting too old. For English players, I'd rather include Lampard and Gerrard in the poll instead of Beckham. Oh, and it's called football, not soccer ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 06:28
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Roy Keane, anyone?! For about 10 years he was number one in English football , and although he's one of those guys who has too big a mouth, as a player he is/was simply the best defensive midfielder. |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 06:52
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Thank you! From the list I vote for Ronaldo Assis aka Ronaldinho (Barcelona). Best player ever... hmmmmmm. It is difficult to say. Pelé played together with other genius like Didi, Garrincha, Rivelino, Gérson, Zito, etc. be with Santos F.C. or Brazilian National Team; but obviously he was great. Maradona was great too, but now we know he was using drugs all the time when he was active and the question is "did the dope enhance his playing"? If so, I cut by half his success. My favourite player was Zico that took (as a leader) my team to be 5 times Brazilian champions and also World Champion beating Liverpool 3-0 in Tokyo (1981). My team is FLAMENGO, from Rio de Janeiro.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 08:42
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For the moment Id say Ronaldinho but Rooney will overtack him soon, he just needs to calm down some what first. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 09:12
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Hello Atkingani, can you tell me what's the latest story about Romario? He became very popular playing in Holland with PSV Eindhoven, I have always enjoyed his scoring abilities but he turned out to be a rather narcistic personality (his ex-wife was a shrink I read somewhere, must have been a very steamy relationship), will he ever become president of Brazil?
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 10:37
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After the Barcelona vs. Real Madrid of yesterday, I have a new vote:
That argentine motherf*cker called Messi will be da very best one day,
probably soon. He destructed the Real Madrid with only 18 years old.
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 10:40
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Btw, here's my top 10 of all time: 1- Johan Cruyff 2- Ferenc Puskás 3- Alfredo Di Stéfano 4- Mathias Sindelar 5- Zoltan Czibor 6- Pedro Cea 7- Dejan Savicevic 8- Johan Neeskens 9- Pelé 10- Michael Laudrup ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 10:46
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Rooney ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:02
This summer Messi was the star on the Under 21-World Championship in The Netherlands. The first game he had to start on the bench ( coward of a coach) but then he led (like Diego Maradonna did in 1986 in Mexico) Argentina himself to the World Cup, the Brasilian soccer fans will not be pleased that this incredible talent was not born in Brasil.. ! I feel ashamed that I forget to mention super talent Messi, today the Spanish television (TVE) showed how Messi, as Fantomas mentioned, personally destroyed Real Madrid  , even the fanatical Madrid supporters aplauded for Messi and Barcelona  .. I hope the referees  will protect him.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:37
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Romario is noted by his ex-wives and also the kids he got off marriages. Total: unknown The matter is that his ex-wives and ex-mistresses are sucking all his money and now he has still to play at the age of 39. He lost his hello, he walks no more with bodyguards and his car is something like a standard Corolla made-in-Brazil. But the fact is that he still manages to make some good plays. Considering the last presidents we had here it will be no surprise he should be elected! About Messi... hmmmmmmmmmm I see him like another Ariel Ortega but let's wait. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:51
I'm not old enough to have seen most of those guys play, so my alltime top 10 consists of players from more recent times. 1: Zinedine Zidane 2: Maradona 3: Hristo Stoichkov 4: Paulo Maldini 5: Gary Lineker 6: Lothar Matthäus 7: Thierry Henry 8: Ronaldinho 9: Steven Gerrard 10: Jürgen Klinsmann Henry, Ronaldinho and Gerrard all have a long career still ahead of them, so they can easily climb a few places on the list ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: Xymphony
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:20
| Ronaldo, before his injury, and Van Nistelrooy in this poll. But Ronaldinho is also awesome... |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 17:40
Best player? How about God himself? |
Posted By: ColonelClaypool
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 19:12
Ah, yes. The heartache I suffered in the Cup Winner's Cup quarterfinals 1996, when my two favourite teams, Brann Bergen and Liverpool, faced each other. Robbie scored one of the greatest goals ever at Brann's home court... Facing away from the goal about 25 meters out, getting a pass, spinning it up and over the head of the centrehalf using his heel and running around him to score, all of it in a single fluid motion. Even the home fans applauded it. ------------- With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince. With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 21:35
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i saw yesterday Barcelona - Real Madrid Ronaldinho.... is awesome he is a monster
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 23:52
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My list, only those I seen:
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:12
Franz Beckembauer is a wonderful player... So was Van Basten. Great list. Johan Cruyff, to me, is on the top.  ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:23
Of the actually playing, mine would be: 1- Zinedine Zidane 2- Kaka 3- Ronaldinho 4- Pavel Nedved 5- Shevchenko 6- Arjen Robben 7- Thierry Henry 8- Adriano 9- Wayne Rooney 10- Messi ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 21:24
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Hey Fantomas, I missed Hristo Stoichkov, the guy was pure heart and b*lls, you could se in his face that loosing wasn't an option for him. Wonderful player. I don't know if most of you are too young but I remember the National team from Polland in Argentina 78 that was awesome: Guys like Zbigniew Boniek, Kazimierz Deyna, Grzegord Lato, Henryk Kasperczak, Andrzeg Szarmach, Wladislaw Smuda and the incredible Jan Tomasewski, What a great team. After they sent Perú to hell in 1/4 finals, I believed they deserved to be champions, we met them again in Spain 82 but this time they killed us with a clear 5 - 1. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 10:46
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Many great teams didn't win a world cup (see Denmark in 86, Brazil in
82, Holland in 74, Hungary in 54, etc...). It's kinda frustrating to
the lovers of a well-played football. Btw, Flamengo in 1981 was the
best team of the world. And I mean it. If that team would have gone to
the world cup in 82, the history today would be different.
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 10:48
Oh, and the Real Madrid of Puskas and Di Stefano, to me, was the best
thing that already existed in soccer. Those were the times...  ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:42
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I'd like to remember the bravest team I saw playing: HOLLAND 1978, specially at the final game against Argentina! They played tremendously against a huge pressure from all squares. My God, and if that Resenbrink's kick which hit the woods in the last minute had entered the net? ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:45
Yes, these are very painful ones for the lover of great football, especially Hungary because they have not even qualified for a major championship in 20 years, but they were once all-conquering and don't have the trophy to show for it ...  ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 13:11
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What happened to Hungury, I hear they were one of the heavyweights in the 50's but what changed in the country ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 18:21
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Dear God! Who created this list? Zidane was the best two years ago. Van Nisterlooy showed nothing in last season, same with Figo, Beckham and Del Piero. OK now it`s time for my list: 1. Frank Lampard - without him Chealsea is nothing 2. Kaka - one of the most intelligent players in the world 3. Christiano Ronaldo - superb technique, too bad he can`t spread his wings in Man Utd 4. Rafael Van Der Vaart - simply amazing playmaker and scores a lot goals too. What is he doing in HSV? he should play in Real Madrid! 5. Ronaldinho - I don`t like the guy (Barcelona sucks) but I have to admitt he`s technique is outstanding. The whole team plays for him. he should be playing if RM too ------------- http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm |
Posted By: Runaway
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 19:35
| A lot of mexican players are also very good, especialy of Cruz azul and Chivas, which are my fav teams for sure. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 20:41
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But i dont think anyone in this forum know something about Cruz Azul or Chivas Anyway, Carlos Salcido and Oswaldo Sanchez are both fantastic players... you will see them for sure in the world cup... ( of course they`re not the best soccer player in the world ), but are very good!! ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: December 16 2005 at 21:41
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The only thing I know about soccer is that all the kids in the United States who play it have really annoying, right-wing neo-nazi mothers who drive Ford Escalades and other earth-raping-like SUVs So how about this "footballer"? This guy kicked a 7 pound (3.2 kilo) egg-shaped ball through a goal that was 18 1/2 feet (5.6 meters) wide and 10 feet (3 meters) off the grond, from 63 yards (57.6 meters) away, with over a ton (1,000 kilos) of men (11 of them) running straight at him. And if that wasn't impressive enough, check out the picture carefully - the guy only has half a foot! Now that's some football!
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 05:06
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Ronaldinho,no doubt...
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 09:01
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 09:09
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None from the list. Juninho for me! this guy is genius . His job in "lyon" (France) is just incredible. The future star of the Brazilian national team!!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: shyman
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 10:13
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Currently, Ronaldinho by a big difference. If we are talking about all time players, Pelé, also by a big difference |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 19:01
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Not for the list yet, but the German members kow about the Peruvian Claudio Pizarro who has been elected the best forward of the last Champions League and a future top 10 Paolo Guerrero both from Bayern Munchen. Also our friends from Holland know about another Peruvian Jefferson Farfán from PSV Eindhoven, this one could be a top 10 soon, he's only 21. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 08:18
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Oh come on, American football is not only about sitting... there's also a lot of standing with perched buttocks involved... ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Deliriumist
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 08:45
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 10:58
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why no rooney? or lampard? or gerrard? any of these 3 should be on there instead of beckham IMO, much better players. in 1 or 2 years, rooney will be the best in the world |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 11:16
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Lampard and Gerranrd are much better than Rooney ... ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 11:52
You know, I've never understood why "American" football hasn't really caught on elsewhere. It's not for lack of trying - the highest attendance ever at an "American football" game was actually in Mexico, and there have been games with more than 100,000 spectators in Japan and Europe as well. Tryouts in the European league routinely draw thousands of prospective players. The National Football League Hall of Fame has enshrined players from Bavaria, Guatemala, Norway, Italy, Honduras, Mexico, and of course Canada (where a very similar style of football has been played for over a hundred years). I don't hear lacrosse, baseball, or basketball referred to as "American" sports, although all of them originated over here as well. I think it must be all the padding - people who haven't played the game just don't get that. Frankly, a lot of the various pads have come about over they years as a reaction to the number of players who were paralyzed or killed playing without them. It's still a very dangerous sport - my beloved Green Bay Packers have fully one-third of their roster injured this year, and there are still three games to go in the season. Ah well, I'm going to go settle in with some popcorn (hmm, another American convention) and a Coke (hmmm), and watch some big guys in pads beat the hell out of each other now - San Diego Chargers and the undefeated Indianapolis Colts should be a good one to watch. ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 12:21
I like to see (and guess I understand the rules) American Football... here in Brazil (and several other countries) we play Rugby which IMO is tougher since players use no protection. But see that way, in Soccer you have all players at the same time in the field... they don't go in and out according to the needs of the game. So, if Marino or Elway or Montana played soccer they had to face each other at the same time during the match! Another point, 90% of a Soccer game is played with the feet - the rudest part of the human body. It is a pleasure to see some guys (and girls too) control the ball using that sector of our body with accuracy - there is also some antropological discussion about the effects of the Industrial Revolution and the necessity of the workers to rest their hands while on leisure and so on. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 13:07
American football must be fun to play with its long periods of tension interspersed with ultra-intense moments... unfortunately I could never appreciate these elements as a spectator ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 13:43
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Cruijf. Or van Basten. Hah, the Netherlands only are pattriotic when there's international soccer. |
Posted By: Heraclea
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 14:48
| I saw some cup between the best nations from the different championships (the European masters, African masters etc.) Pre-World Cup or something like that it was called. I was very impressed by Dida, the Brazilian goalkeeper. Excellent goalkeeping, good footwork, good eye for the game, etc. He is one of the main reasons to why I think Brazil will take the WC next year. |
Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 04:31
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Zidane ------------- [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Genesis_Group.jpg" border"> |
Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 13:12
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Ronaldinho IMO
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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: June 17 2006 at 14:21
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Yeah, Ronaldinho Joga Bonito
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 18 2006 at 05:42
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GIGI BUFFON and "SUPERPIPPO" INZAGHI!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: June 23 2006 at 05:42
I agree with thaT
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