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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20650 |
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I'm confused now...I thought you said that they were both (Radiohead and Wilson..) listed as crossover prog..? ![]() PT is listed as heavy prog btw.
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Yes, Swilson is crossover and PT is heavy. Wtf?
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Alt. Rock
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I've never liked Radiohead and have never considered them a prog band.
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If you're going to go that rout you might as well at least try to get some facts right. Creep was the hit single from their debut album in the early 90's, where people thought they might end up as a one trick pony by being the UK's answer to Grunge. Their hey day, by every measure going, was the late 90's and early 2000's when they had albums like OK Computer, Kid A and Amnesiac. Interestingly enough these three albums are the main reasans they get called prog. |
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Kid A is Prog, with an alt. rock twist. Or is it alt. with a Prog twist ?? Whatever it is, it's a great album.
![]() It's definitely an album worth owning. Edited by Tom Ozric - August 21 2015 at 17:40 |
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Any lovers of Radiohead seem to be in the minority in this thread.
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I love The Bends. It is not prog, but the album is great.
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Those of you saying Radiohead isn't prog are listening to the wrong Radiohead. Pablo Honey, their debut and undoubtedly most radio-friendly, is what many people consider to be the sole indicator of their style. Kid A and Ok Computer, on the other hand, are full-blown prog masterpieces. While they're overtly "commercially friendly" and you might find that some "normal" music listeners seem to like them too, that doesn't mean it's not prog. Like come on, how can you not think this is prog?
It's not Genesis, obviously, but it has just about everything prog relies on - fusion of classical and jazz elements, free song structure, experimental instrumentation, and a basis this time in indie rock rather than the classic rock of the 70s. The band is clearly crossover prog, fusing very much so prog elements with more modern and commercially-friendly rock elements. Obviously they're not for everyone, but they are very much so prog.
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Do you wanna see some more of Creep? Okey, as I have never been selfish re my posts when those posts are necessary for cooling the hotheads aswell, here is a MTV live footage (almost one million views at YouTube in 5 years since the video was posted in 2010 and with pretty affirmative comments that are posted recently) from one the majors European festivals Rock Am Ring in Germany, 1994, and also a footage from their gig in Milan, in 1995, where the crowd was in delirium although Mr York was singing that very drunk (btw, very evidently drunk
![]() As you can see, and as everybody can see as well, the audience is roaring always when they were started playing Creep in 90s due to the fact that their 90s audience was 99,9% the mainstream alt.rock audience, not prog audience. That also means that the middle of 90s and the second half of decade represents undoubtedly the heydays of career of, at the time, very mainstreamy alt.rock band called Radiohead, and I couldn't care less if they were "an answer to U.S. grunge" or not. Kid A, released in 2000, is an artistic peak of their career without a doubt, and the only one Radiohead's album that we, say, "original" prog fans, who were growing up with the 70s prog rock acts (btw, we are a "nasty" audience who was learned that a drunk singer at the stage could be only sh*t ![]() Sadly, after Kid A, undoubtedly comes the qualitative decline of the band' studio work, and over the past 15 years they have not recorded anything that could be even compare with that really great impression of Kid A the album. For us, the fans of progressive rock who were listening to and saw live in our youth THE artists as Yes, Jethro Tull, Zappa, etc., as current acts as well, there is nothing interesting released by Radiohead before and after Kid A the album and a few proggy songs from OK Computer as e.g. Exit Music (Music For A Film) as well. Edited by Svetonio - August 22 2015 at 01:15 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by Svetonio - August 22 2015 at 00:48 |
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Do not worry Andy, we're an a****le too.
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There was a nice and accurate tag for that, and it's Art Rock. These are albums such as 10cc' The Original Soundtrack, Roxy Music's debut album, the first solo album by Brian Eno, David Silvian's Brilliant Trees, Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden or Kid A by Radiohead. Amazing English Art Rock what have a long tail in 60s with The Beatles' A Day In The Life the song... Why "we" were replaced such historical term with "crossover prog", and in some cases "prog related", I have no idea
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