Radiohead: What happened?
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Topic: Radiohead: What happened?
Posted By: SteveG
Subject: Radiohead: What happened?
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 18:33
| When OK Computer hit the airwaves, people were lauding Radiohead as the 'next Pink Floyd'. So, what happened to Radiohead? And why are they now dwarfed by Swilson by prog fans, amongst others? |
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 18:57
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Because Steven Wilson is more innovative/versatile and his music is more emotional, it's deeper. Which doesn't mean Radiohead are bad, this band is probably the best thing happened to mainstream rock since mid 90s. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 19:00
| ^Hmm..Deeper? Perhaps. But more emotional? I'm not too sure about that. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 19:30
Hein!? ------------- |
ole-the-first wrote:Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 19:40
| Because they have long since stopped making anything resembling prog in the conventional sense (and maybe OK Computer was the only one that had it anyway). They have kept changing their sound with their album and with the last one, moved way out of the comfort zone of most classic rock aficionados. Whereas Wilson has been moving in the opposite direction, bringing his sound closer and closer to the 70s prog sound and with that endearing himself more and more to the prog audience. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 19:53
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Radiohead are producing wonderful music, that's what is happening. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 21:44
Yea this isn't right. Radiohead still are making great music, their most recent though wasn't one of their best. (And this is coming from someone with a Swilson avatar.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 22:17
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Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: August 20 2015 at 23:53
Hahaha... gold.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 00:05
Not emotive? Sometimes I get the impession that I read a forum where some deaf people are talking about music...Hahaha....
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 00:13
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Cannot compare the two
BTW the above songs are sublime by SW  ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 00:28
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Oh maybe Mr Wilson's lyrics aren't enough deep for such a big minds here....Hahaha.... |
Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 00:43
It was a hilarious comment, not necessarily because Wilson isn't emotive (though he's not my cup of tea), but because Radiohead are one of the most incredibly moving bands out there.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 00:56
Well, then you should said that freely. p.s. Radiohead' songs that you set above are emotional, of course, but in a way that is emotional every (good) post rock; in fact, both posted Radiohead' songs are - post rock, the genre where *emotional* is a decoration of the genre. Mr Wilson as a progressive rock artist is undoubtedly deeper in his approach to 'emotional' than postrocky Radiohead.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 01:22
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implying radiohead was ever good |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 01:36
Here here
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Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 01:48
There are plenty of things here that I couldn't disagree with more, but probably best that I leave it be..
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 02:05
Perhaps you think that the vocal post-rock doesn't exist?
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 02:59
Anyone for The Pineapple Thief ?? Radiohead + Wilson + Emotion.............all in a neat 'package' led by Bruce (Yorkewilson)soord 
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 03:10
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Ten years earlier, in comparison with Talking Heads, Wire or Laurie Anderson, Radiohead would have gone almost unnoticed. Having said that, I like the band but I cannot refrain from wondering if it's not Can or Autechre, which I love in their music. |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 07:32
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dwarfed by Swilson? Among prog fans, maybe. But Radiohead are much more popular in general. And that maybe do to the fact that they're not mainly a prog band. ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 08:21
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SW is more talked about at PA because he is more prolific. We have had three Steven Wilson albums since Radiohead's last. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 08:23
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Who's Steven Wilson? ------------- |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 08:45
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 08:47
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i think it deals with inactivity regarding the band's studio albums; hopefully that changes in the next several months! ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 09:58
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I find the OP's supposition that Wilson is more popular to be laughable. In a general sense, Radiohead dwarf Wilson massively and it's only amongst parts of the very niche prog fanbase that the reverse could ever be considered true. As for amongst prog fans, Wilson's music has steadily been moving more towards a 70's type sound for most of the last decade and he is very prolific, having an involvment with at least one album released every year, which does seem to cater to the large conservitive side of prog fandom whilst Radiohead are far more experimental whilst in the 2000's their albums have also been increasingly few and far between. I should also point out that I hate both equilly and will never understand why either of them gained success. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 11:40
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 12:12
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While Swilson can have some emotive music and delivery, a lot of it comes off as trying to hard - while a lot of Radiohead's music genuinely has more heart and soul to it. Appears Sventititotitiio doesn't like the concept that Radiohead are liked sometimes more than Swilson and throws out completely irrelevant nonsense like..
I mean both artists have had highs and lows, but it is a matter of preference all in all. I mean i've seen Swilson like 3 times live, and couldn't even sit through his new solo record. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 12:28
Your opening post could have done with more context to it then, after all I wasn't the only one to make the comment that Radiohead are very definitely more popular than Wilson is. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 12:29
As almost all of 90s mainstreamy alt.rock bands, their heydays were not lasting long. They keep a fanbase, but it's far from that hysteria during the time of their heydays.
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 12:34
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 12:51
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:02
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Well.....I have never really cared for Radiohead....simply not my cup of tea, and the last few albums have not improved their status with me. I do like Wilson though his last two solo things have not impressed me as much as others here at PA and the work he did in the past with Porcupine Tree was more to my liking. All in all I could care less what happened to Radiohead. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:13
I'll second that. ------------- http://fryingpanmedia.com |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:34
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Just a reminder, this was Radiohead at their heydays: A mainstreamy alt. rock band. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:39
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^Be careful pushing this Svetonio, it's just as easy to make a case that In Absentia is alt rock. And remember, both RH and Swilson are classified in PA as crossover prog. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:41
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:51
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:53
^I agree with you, along with Swilson.
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:58
Nope. Crossover prog.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:58
I'm confused now...I thought you said that they were both (Radiohead and Wilson..) listed as crossover prog..?  PT is listed as heavy prog btw. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 13:59
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Yes, Swilson is crossover and PT is heavy. Wtf? ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 14:05
| Alt. Rock |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 14:12
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 15:14
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I've never liked Radiohead and have never considered them a prog band. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 15:36
+1
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 17:26
If you're going to go that rout you might as well at least try to get some facts right. Creep was the hit single from their debut album in the early 90's, where people thought they might end up as a one trick pony by being the UK's answer to Grunge. Their hey day, by every measure going, was the late 90's and early 2000's when they had albums like OK Computer, Kid A and Amnesiac. Interestingly enough these three albums are the main reasans they get called prog. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 17:37
Kid A is Prog, with an alt. rock twist. Or is it alt. with a Prog twist ?? Whatever it is, it's a great album.  It's definitely an album worth owning. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 18:03
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Any lovers of Radiohead seem to be in the minority in this thread. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 19:15
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 20:19
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I love The Bends. It is not prog, but the album is great. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 22:20
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Those of you saying Radiohead isn't prog are listening to the wrong Radiohead. Pablo Honey, their debut and undoubtedly most radio-friendly, is what many people consider to be the sole indicator of their style. Kid A and Ok Computer, on the other hand, are full-blown prog masterpieces. While they're overtly "commercially friendly" and you might find that some "normal" music listeners seem to like them too, that doesn't mean it's not prog. Like come on, how can you not think this is prog? It's not Genesis, obviously, but it has just about everything prog relies on - fusion of classical and jazz elements, free song structure, experimental instrumentation, and a basis this time in indie rock rather than the classic rock of the 70s. The band is clearly crossover prog, fusing very much so prog elements with more modern and commercially-friendly rock elements. Obviously they're not for everyone, but they are very much so prog.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 21 2015 at 22:25
 
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 00:30
Do you wanna see some more of Creep? Okey, as I have never been selfish re my posts when those posts are necessary for cooling the hotheads aswell, here is a MTV live footage (almost one million views at YouTube in 5 years since the video was posted in 2010 and with pretty affirmative comments that are posted recently) from one the majors European festivals Rock Am Ring in Germany, 1994, and also a footage from their gig in Milan, in 1995, where the crowd was in delirium although Mr York was singing that very drunk (btw, very evidently drunk
) and also the live video from Glastonbury 1997. As you can see, and as everybody can see as well, the audience is roaring always when they were started playing Creep in 90s due to the fact that their 90s audience was 99,9% the mainstream alt.rock audience, not prog audience. That also means that the middle of 90s and the second half of decade represents undoubtedly the heydays of career of, at the time, very mainstreamy alt.rock band called Radiohead, and I couldn't care less if they were "an answer to U.S. grunge" or not. Kid A, released in 2000, is an artistic peak of their career without a doubt, and the only one Radiohead's album that we, say, "original" prog fans, who were growing up with the 70s prog rock acts (btw, we are a "nasty" audience who was learned that a drunk singer at the stage could be only sh*t ) could call progressive rock album.Sadly, after Kid A, undoubtedly comes the qualitative decline of the band' studio work, and over the past 15 years they have not recorded anything that could be even compare with that really great impression of Kid A the album. For us, the fans of progressive rock who were listening to and saw live in our youth THE artists as Yes, Jethro Tull, Zappa, etc., as current acts as well, there is nothing interesting released by Radiohead before and after Kid A the album and a few proggy songs from OK Computer as e.g. Exit Music (Music For A Film) as well. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 00:33
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 00:43
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 00:47
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 01:07
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Do not worry Andy, we're an a****le too. ------------- |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 01:12
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 03:27
There was a nice and accurate tag for that, and it's Art Rock. These are albums such as 10cc' The Original Soundtrack, Roxy Music's debut album, the first solo album by Brian Eno, David Silvian's Brilliant Trees, Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden or Kid A by Radiohead. Amazing English Art Rock what have a long tail in 60s with The Beatles' A Day In The Life the song... Why "we" were replaced such historical term with "crossover prog", and in some cases "prog related", I have no idea
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 03:50
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^ Not full-blown 'Prog' as we are so familiar with, but whatever Rock, incorporating 'Prog' characteristics/stylings. Radiohead, The Pineapple Thief, even the French band Air, all fit here, somewhere..... |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 05:49
*Sigh*. Still can't do any actual research. Anyone can post a string of pointless videos from Youtube and it doesn't mean sh*t. At no point did I say that Creep wasn't popular, for many people it's the only song of Pablo Honey that they know (myself included) but a quick search of the internet shows that The Bends, OK Computer and Kid A all massively outsold Pablo Honey both worldwide an in the UK. That paints a very clear picture that the hight of their popularity was the late 90's/early 2000's, which is completely usurprising to anybody that lives in the UK (like me). As for your jibes about them not being prog, couldn't care less as I'm not a fan of theirs in the slightest. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 07:43
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To these ears everything from Ok Computer onward is progressive rock with their best albums being Kid A & Ok Computer, I find good interesting stuff in all those post OC albums. I've long since ignored Svet & his multiple alter ego's opinions. This does seem to be a strange position for a person who's approach to recommendations is to carpet bomb anything tagged progressive on bandcamp. Maybe if Radiohead were new and relatively unknown he'd have seen the tagging and recommended them. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 07:51
Well said . A lot of the stuff tagged as "progressive rock" or "prog rock" on Bandcamp (which is an excellent resource, but - like everything else - not perfect) is run-of-the-mill, uninteresting pap. The prog niche is oversaturated, and quality control has become essential. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 07:54
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 09:37
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRxqFQoTCPf4iJr0vMcCFcgoHgodmIAD4A&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classicfm.com%2Fartists%2Frick-wakeman%2F&ei=IojYVfffJcjReJiBjoAO&psig=AFQjCNFj8yS6UbgZjJ3sLQdJ1mw23ubsmg&ust=1440340377230140" rel="nofollow"> As the great Rick Wakeman famously said: "Sorry Radiohead, but you're prog."
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 10:48
Hands down! http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/yes-progrock-of-the-seventies-is-back-says-rick-wakeman-8679984.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/yes-progrock-of-the-seventies-is-back-says-rick-wakeman-8679984.html
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 11:21
I can't remember precisely, but I think that Amnesiac is probably my favorite album.  |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 12:08
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My personal fav of post-Kid A stuff: |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 12:35
Sounds like a Pink Floyd outtake from either More or Obscured By Clouds.......I guess it qualifies as prog on that basis. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 12:37
And that sounds like something that could be from a Flaming Lips album and they aren't listed as prog here either. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 12:40
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How about this one instead? Still, "Pyramid Song" is the greatest! ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 13:11
Yes, I like that song.p.s. On other side, I don't like for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTFjVm9sTQ" rel="nofollow - House of Cards from In Rainbows, a very popular Radiohead song which is basically an original Jamaica 60s ska, what I don't like.
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 22 2015 at 23:35
You've proven time and time again that you do not understand how our genre sections work, so it does not surprise me PR vexes you as well. Radiohead is very clearly a crossover band, not a PR band. And they have more than one prog album, as I would say everything they've made since Ok Computer can be considered prog. And I still don't understand why you think Creep is the band's peak - Yes' biggest hit was likely Owner of a Lonely Heart, yet you don't see anyone on this forum saying 90125 was their best album. It's possible for an album to be popular without it being their best. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 00:35
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Kid A is one of the essential modern prog albums - they've been keeping up just fine. To be fair, I'm not a major fan anymore, but that is a significant record. OK Computer is proggy, but Kid A onwards I would easily consider Radiohead a prog band. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 01:03
| Perhaps only by default - I don't know if Yorke and the boys set out to be 'Prog' per se, but they were intent on creating a new and unique sound/style. And that's Prog in my books !! |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 02:05
Actually, it is in my reply to sleeper when we debated, slightly off the topic, about Radiohead heydays. I think that their heydays, as mainstreamy alt.rock band, was in the middle to second half of 90s. Then they changed their music direction and went in Art Rock with Kid A in my opinion. Yea I know that "Art Rock" the tag is replaced with "Crossover Prog" and "Prog Related" the tags, and I wrote few words about it also at previous page:
I hope that I made it now a bit more clear for your understanding.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 07:11
 If you can't win join em - or maybe better yet: if you can't win, change your goalpost and the other person's argument by cutting his/her posts into smithereens. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 07:29
They also broke through the barrier of 3 minute pop song Joking aside, there is something in singing what exactly separates the English Prog from that English Art Rock.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 07:47
Actually I wouldn't have gotten into Radiohead nor would I have found this site searching for info on them if Steven Wilson hadn't put in the good word for them on his website back in 2006 when Porcupine tree was still very active and alive. As to what happened. I don't really care. If they put out new music, I'll be interested, if they don't there are plenty of other good new fishes out there in the proggy sea... And by the way -
Well put Andy I find the Radiohead haters boring and unprogressive in their music appreciation. |
Posted By: Disparate Times
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 08:23
| A case could be made that radio head helped create the prog scene we have today. At the time, ironically, punk rock was hitting the mainstream again. People of my age group, 30ish, were hearing progressive rock for the first time. The comparisons to pink Floyd may have led people to discovering pink Floyd which created a modern audience for prog. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 08:31
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^ one reason OK Computer perhaps is lauded as it is... not only was it just a frickin great album. One could say it was a very important album.. a KEY album... in the development of what has become the 2nd golden age of progressive rock... and given us what we have today. Where moving forward is more important that aping the past. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Disparate Times
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 08:33
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Looking back on it i kinda wish i had went with radio head back than instead of the punk rock Oh well better late than never |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 08:42
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ehhh.. as I like to tell myself... what you are today is in part a reflection of where you have been. I like to think I can appreciate prog more.. .as well as recognize its shortcomings all the more for not being simply a 'prog fan' but a music fan. Prog is merely a style of music.. no better or worse than any other. I do think its high points pretty much top the highs on any other style.. but make no mistake.. its lows are damn near lower than any type of music. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 08:43
| Radiohaed had a strong touch of emo music, isn't? |
Posted By: Disparate Times
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 08:52
Agreed prog at its worst bleep bloop whaap
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 12:35
Emotional =! Emo ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 13:23
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^ Imo, they were influenced by Emo music as a genre. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 15:56
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^ No way. Tell me how Radiohead sound either like the old school hardcore punk derived emo like such: ... or the '00's era third wave/pop emo that didn't even exist when the band recorded anything before "Hail To The Thief": -------------  
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Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 19:12
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Radiohead seems like a pretty divisiveband for Prog, a lot of people don't like considering them a Prog band. Maybe some people don't have much time for them. It seems Radiohead demands a lot of time, needs you to get into their groove, for what they want to deliver. If you like that groove, then the reward pays off. A lot of time sampling them, the payoff wasn't what I was looking for, now listening to OK Computer, it grows on me a little. It's always funny how to me some bands just come into my life when the time is right for them. Interesting to compare the singer to Peter Hammil. Seem like they are around the same territory. I'm hearing a little of defeatism, aren't I, like in "Climbing Up The Walls"? ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: POTA
Date Posted: August 23 2015 at 22:29
One of the best songs I've ever heard.
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Posted By: symphonicman
Date Posted: August 24 2015 at 18:43
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What happened to Radiohead? Well time passed, that's all. Also How to Disappear Completely is one of my favourites by them. ------------- Master James of St. George. Of the fields and the sky. He used to build castles of stone, steel, and blood. But lines get broken down. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 01:16
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But did they disappear completely? ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 01:52
Yea, we should go back to the topic i.e. to the OP's question.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 01:54
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What is "emo music"? Are we in 2007 again? WTF While being somewhat "current-ish" with Porcupine Tree latest output, Swilson degraded into aping old prog with his recent solo works. They sound modern only on the surface, but the material itself screams 70's prog if you listen to the actual melodies/harmonies and notice the songs' structures. On the other hand, if we still mean "progressive-thinking" by saying "prog" (not only referring to the greats of the once-revolutionary genre), Radiohead is miles ahead, even with their questionable post-2003 material. Having said that, I must also admit I'm not a fan of Yorke-Greenwood-lead collective at all and consider them to be one of the most overhyped bands ever. But I'm more excited anticipating what they're about to offer, than getting another Swilson record (that I might enjoy, nevertheless), which is 100% predictable genre-worship with his signature twist (that had grown old years ago) - especially now, when he's getting tons of new fans through his take on classic prog cliches. I simply can't imagine him somehow changing that, which would mean losing most of his conservative fanbase (though I'm pretty sure he's a capable musician, just listen to his "other" side-projects), while Radiohead could do whatever they effing what, and they know that |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 02:38
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The great Steve Wilson ! A Cliche ! OF COURSE !
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 02:38
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Imo, Radiohead is worthy band mostly 'cause they were released Kid A which was for alt.rock the same important thing as e.g. London Calling was for punk-rock or what Sgt. Peppers was for 'classic rock'. |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 05:44
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why alt.rock? why genres? why trying to pigeonhole the band that constantly changes from one album to another (starting from "OK Computer"), while Swilson moans from the same old hole he'd been diggin since "In Absentia"? Seriously, apart from how much who likes what: does "Hail To The Thief" -> "In Rainbows" -> "The King of Limbs" mutations sound as narrow as indistinguishable, minor differences between, say, "Grace For Drowning" and "Hand.Cannot.Erase"? |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 10:05
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Most members have focused on everything about Radiohead except an exploration of their current music. I've read some posts that say it's because they're not really prog, to even more sillier explanations like they're alt. rock. The simple explanation is that Radiohead has gotten less listener friendly due to an expanded electronic experimental sound which just doesn't appeal to many people. All of this other exposition has been a silly waste of time, I'm afraid. So, kudos to those that have focused on the music.
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 25 2015 at 11:07
| Honestly I don't like their "current music" specially their last album and EP but IMO RH is a impressive band and I like many of their songs and albums. |