The Marillion Round Table

progkidjoel wrote: A 20 minute acoustic epic would be awesome - Although I can't think of any Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick is a 2 part 40 minute track, a lot of which is acoustic, not fully acoustic though.

Lazland,  true I value Eric opinion as well, but it is likely that the DVD will be Europe only, so no crowd surfing by H there.  I asked about Montreal footage on the thread at Marillion.com but no response.  kenmar

Bonjour guys,

When I was reading a bit here around the archives about Marillion, I noticed there are quite a lot of people who listen to the h.-era, but consider Brave as a mediocre or even their weakest (so I've read) album...

Now, I have to admit I wasn't into Brave myself 'till a year or 2 ago...I don't know why, but it just had to hit me or something... My dad loves the album and told me to listen to it a couple of times; it never got hold of me. One day, however, when I came home from school and had to go to a friend in about half an hour, I thought I might as well spend the remaining minutes listening to Brave and all of a sudden it hit me I played it two times in a row with about ten minutes of silent couch-sitting between the two spins. Completely stunned I was, struck by the emotion, darkness and subtleness (if that's a word...) of the record. I just don't know why I had that change of heart towards the album, but I notice quite a lot still haven't had such a thing, so: how did Brave appeal to you all, Marillion fans? Was it "love at first sight"? did it grow on you? or did you have that sudden change of heart towards it, like I had?

First listen to Less = More, and I am really enjoying it.  Are all of the songs from H era Marillion or did they tackle any Fish era Marillion? Are these all re-recordings or are there some new songs on here too?

Basíleia wrote: Bonjour guys, When I was reading a bit here around the archives about Marillion, I noticed there are quite a lot of people who listen to the h.-era, but consider Brave as a mediocre or even their weakest (so I've read) album... Now, I have to admit I wasn't into Brave myself 'till a year or 2 ago...I don't know why, but it just had to hit me or something... My dad loves the album and told me to listen to it a couple of times; it never got hold of me. One day, however, when I came home from school and had to go to a friend in about half an hour, I thought I might as well spend the remaining minutes listening to Brave and all of a sudden it hit me I played it two times in a row with about ten minutes of silent couch-sitting between the two spins. Completely stunned I was, struck by the emotion, darkness and subtleness (if that's a word...) of the record. I just don't know why I had that change of heart towards the album, but I notice quite a lot still haven't had such a thing, so: how did Brave appeal to you all, Marillion fans? Was it "love at first sight"? did it grow on you? or did you have that sudden change of heart towards it, like I had? Anyway, I have got hold of Brave Live 2002 about two months ago and well, the brilliance just spat off the stage by (one of our) favourite band(s)!   Joren   PS. Though I find the album to be very subtle, I can understand why some of the people here on PA find it very ehm...barbarian and a not very graceful. I mean, I can imagine what they hate about it, I can even feel it if I want to, I guess (God, this really sounds exaggerating xD)...But, if I can feel how they feel, why then won't they feel how I (we?) feel?! WHY, WHY, WHY IS THIS WORLD SO CRUEL TO ME!!!!!....   Ok, maybe the last bit was a bit too...But hey, I'd like to hear your Brave-stories...

Welcome to the forum Joren and this thread in particular.

I did not buy Brave immediately upon release. Holidays in Eden had profoundly disappointed me, and I couldn't see which direction the band were going in , or whether I would wish to follow.

Then a friend stated that it was absolutely the greatest thing he had ever heard, from this or any other band. I remember well the first listen, because I had just had my new kitten (who died earlier this year) and he was absolutely petrified at the racket coming from the strange black things on the wall!

I didn't get it straight away - that took about 7 to 8 listens, and then it just clicked. The absolutely pure and raw emotion and energy of the piece as a whole, rather than just individual tracks, just took my breath away. This is a narrative, and a damn fine one as well.

The most important thing about Brave was it enabled me to reconnect with the band I had loved since the early Marquee days, and was a launch pad for a whole new, exciting, and diverse era.

progkidjoel wrote: A quick question guys: Do any of you have the 2CD remaster of Afraid of Sunlight? There's one particular track on the second disc called Mirages, which is a Demo, although the song is absolutely fantastic. Not just good, but to these ears, it sounds like asbolutely classic Marillion material! I'm not sure if it ever materialized into a full track on another Marillion album, but its absolutely fantastic. The lyrics are great too! Absence makes the heart go mad All the solid things become mirages The certain things Sand running in the hour glass Running away I scream along the ledge As the windows back and close I run around try to prove the sunrise I believe in belief But it's proof I need Can you show me it's me Can you show me it's me Travelling makes the mind go vague All the special faces fade away Spinning like a heat haze Shimmering Please send Polaroids Or an ear in the post A map to the treasure A key to the closed I need you like hell Can you help me again Can you show me it's me Can you show me it's me I run dry I run out I run cold I need help Trying to prove the sunrise Trying to prove the tides Trying to prove the blue moon sky And is it you? Is it you? Also, if you haven't already seen this site, I think you'll really like it: http://marillion.baldyslaphead.co.uk/albums/Market/MSH.htm It has in depth song explanations and interviews with the guys about the inspiration for the lyrics, really interesting stuff! Also, just though I'd say merry christmas to everyone, particularly in this thread - Its been great discussing Marillion and their magic with you guys, and I can't wait for the conversations to come -Joel

progkidjoel wrote: A quick question guys: Do any of you have the 2CD remaster of Afraid of Sunlight? There's one particular track on the second disc called Mirages, which is a Demo, although the song is absolutely fantastic. Not just good, but to these ears, it sounds like asbolutely classic Marillion material! I'm not sure if it ever materialized into a full track on another Marillion album, but its absolutely fantastic. The lyrics are great too! Absence makes the heart go mad All the solid things become mirages The certain things Sand running in the hour glass Running away I scream along the ledge As the windows back and close I run around try to prove the sunrise I believe in belief But it's proof I need Can you show me it's me Can you show me it's me Travelling makes the mind go vague All the special faces fade away Spinning like a heat haze Shimmering Please send Polaroids Or an ear in the post A map to the treasure A key to the closed I need you like hell Can you help me again Can you show me it's me Can you show me it's me I run dry I run out I run cold I need help Trying to prove the sunrise Trying to prove the tides Trying to prove the blue moon sky And is it you? Is it you? Also, if you haven't already seen this site, I think you'll really like it: http://marillion.baldyslaphead.co.uk/albums/Market/MSH.htm It has in depth song explanations and interviews with the guys about the inspiration for the lyrics, really interesting stuff! Also, just though I'd say merry christmas to everyone, particularly in this thread - Its been great discussing Marillion and their magic with you guys, and I can't wait for the conversations to come -Joel

Sorry Joel, I still only have the original CD which was purchased on the day of release. That is a wonderful lyric, and I would be interested to see if I could get the 2nd CD without having to repeat the purchase of the first.

Also, may I wish you (oh how I wish I was living in a heatwave - it's cold here) and, of course, all other users of the Archives, but most especially my favourite thread, a very peaceful Christmas and happy new year.

Actually, to say it propoerly, Nadolig Llawen ac Blwyddyn Neuadd Dda.

 

progkidjoel wrote: A quick question guys: Do any of you have the 2CD remaster of Afraid of Sunlight? There's one particular track on the second disc called Mirages, which is a Demo, although the song is absolutely fantastic. Not just good, but to these ears, it sounds like asbolutely classic Marillion material! I'm not sure if it ever materialized into a full track on another Marillion album, but its absolutely fantastic. -Joel

Eric!!!

Good to see you back temporarily, and hope you had a great christmas and hope you have a happy, safe holiday season with your family

-Joel

Joel, that is incredibly kind - thank you very much. Any chance of the actual cake being flown over from Oz?

I've had a lovely day. As I just posted on TFK thread, I am sat at the pc blasting out The Whirlwind for the first time, and my first impressions are very favourable - review to follow in the New Year. This was my birthday present from my special little son, bless him.

I also downloaded Phideaux's Number Seven, so will listen to that later. As regards your recommendation for Big Big Train's new LP, this was not available on download from Amazon, so I ordered the CD

I've had such a lovely family day. Of course, though, no special day would be complete without the world's greatest band, and the late night blast on the home cinema system before I go to bed will be the Happiness on the Road gig from Brighton 2009 that I downloaded from Racket Records a while ago. All of it is brilliant, and I recommend that all users of this great thread get at least one of the tour gigs from the band, and the versions of Invisible Man & Real Tears For Sale are particularly powerful on this one.

Happy days