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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
Posted: August 24 2013 at 18:54 | |||
aww thanks
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Polymorphia
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
Posted: August 24 2013 at 19:00 | |||
I really like the Blasphart song on Reverbnation, and Rare Goat does as competent covers as covers can get, but I really want to hear those Rare Goat originals! I suppose I have no room to talk, though. I haven't posted anything yet.
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
Posted: August 24 2013 at 20:54 | |||
Oh wow, I forgot about that song on ReverbNation. . glad you liked it though!
Here's an early mix of a new Rare Goat song I did, called "Holocaust Walnut Bowl" And I've got this on my Soundcloud too, another Blasphart song from '93 you might like: I appreciate the interest in my stuff, when I have more time I'd like to comment on the other stuff already posted in this thread earlier today, lots of talented people around here. I've already heard a good bit of Luna and Smarty's stuff, though I want to hear more. I'm a fan of Hanashukketsu (Vomps, Alan, Cam) as well. Edited by HolyMoly - August 24 2013 at 20:55 |
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Polymorphia
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
Posted: August 24 2013 at 22:54 | |||
I like the Rare Goat song a lot. There were a lot of interesting elements, and, overall, it was pretty satisfying. I'd have liked a simpler drum approach, though. The other Blasphart song was good too.
ALSO: I should have some King Stevens rehearsal demos to show soon. I'm kind of anxious to get this stuff out there. Me and my brother have written hundreds of songs for the project over a period of three years, but it will be a long time before we're in the financial position to record a full studio album. Edited by Polymorphia - August 24 2013 at 23:00 |
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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 00:22 | |||
In case if you haven't read this before, I'm OK when writing short instrumental pieces for the classical guitar, but when it comes to songwriting, ... yuck. And when it comes to criticism, oh boy, ... . I've written and discarded a slew of crappy songs, which naturally was effortless, and the writing experience was awful. So far my biggest problem is fighting the laziness, picking up the guitar, and writing songs around some of the tunes I already have, or recording that one song that I've written (though the lyrics need more work). I'm just drained of inspiration.
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Luna
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 00:30 | |||
Yup, the thing that takes the longest for me is actually building up the motivation and willpower to make anything at all. I've got ideas and I write them down, but I can go weeks or months without touching an instrument at all.
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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 00:41 | |||
^ I don't know how about you, but if I actually had any physical friends around me that could force me to write and record a handful, I probably would come up with something. Inspiration may be a large part of the story. The excessive amount of material stored on my laptop and my iPhone may also have something to do with that. The delicious material ... it's not right in front of me; I just have to pull up numerous directories and sift through the trivial (which is code for "short, experimental, over-the-top, nonsensical material that doesn't work") tracks, look for hot stuff that I should have brought up on my desktop in the first place.
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smartpatrol
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2012 Location: My Bedroom Status: Offline Points: 14169 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 00:47 | |||
I can't help composing and recording, it's a habit I couldn't get out of if I tried
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Luna
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 00:54 | |||
I've recorded this and that for so and so, but it's mostly because the people know exactly what they want and I fill the role. I can really only write/make music on my own which is both my appeal and downfall.
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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 00:55 | |||
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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 01:09 | |||
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Luna
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 01:13 | |||
Not really what I meant. It was more "I can record music for people who want me to, but I have no motivation whatsoever and as a result cannot make music frequently".
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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 01:14 | |||
^ Oh ... . Well, whatever pleases your heart.
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Pekka
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 03 2006 Location: Espoo, Finland Status: Offline Points: 6442 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 02:36 | |||
There's at least one company in Finland that I know of who make professional cases (digipak or jewelcase, I haven't decided yet, and they have a mass of other options as well) and very good looking blank CDrs. They could also press the whole thing start to finish, but yeah, the quantity might be an issue there, and for such a small number it's ok for me to burn it myself if the rest of the package is fine. The problem I have is the artwork, because the original cover photo was taken on a pretty crappy camera that looks fine on a screen, but pretty muddy when printed. If all else fails, I guess I'll have to go on a hike and re-shoot it or have somebody paint it. I might take a look at Createspace anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 07:49 | |||
Thanks for the input man I'm not really a production kinda guy but I know what you mean. I mean we were trying to go for the least jazzy sound due to the opening riff being not really a jazz riff... What sort of a mix would you suggest?
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Polymorphia
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 12:30 | |||
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Polymorphia
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 12:54 | |||
I'm in a similar boat to Smarts here. I write everyday, not even out of discipline, but out of habit. I didn't start writing every day until I picked up guitar. I didn't know any songs, but I knew chords, and so I just played sequences of chords everyday. It sort of grew from there. Lyrics have been more of a discipline thing for me. I still don't write lyrics everyday, but I write a lot more frequently than I used to. You just have to start. Write down any ideas at the risk of sounding stupid. Revise them. Think of interesting ways to use them. Anyways, I do have trouble finishing things, because I'm very picky, particularly about my own music. I end up pulling my hair out trying to get the right sound, the right form, to communicate what I want to communicate. |
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Luna
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 28 2010 Location: Funky Town Status: Offline Points: 12794 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 13:00 | |||
Sure, I don't pick up my guitar or saxophone when I'm "inspired" to do so, but when I force myself. My problem is that although I'd love to make a habit out of it, I simply can't. And this isn't only a music problem, I have the same issue with pretty much everything that I try.
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Polymorphia
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 13:42 | |||
I have the same problem with lyrics. The habit does start with some kind of discipline, but you can start small. A teacher of mine once told me to compose a measure a day and only a measure a day. Try write three or four notes or sounds or what have you. Don't try to write it all in one sitting. It doesn't even have to be good, either. The important thing is that you're doing it. There are some composers who can't write anything more than a measure or two on any given day. It's okay to be a little bit lazy and work slow or small.
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26138 |
Posted: August 25 2013 at 14:06 | |||
When it comes to art and music, I find my creativity is most efficient when I begin more or less at random, just picking a cool song title and a bunch of lyrics that just sound good, never mind what they mean, and as I'm writing, I'll sometimes hear the tune in my head. After I've gotten it started, I look at it, and think, "this looks like it's a song about ______ ." And then I'll continue from there, with that figure in mind. It's similar to how I draw (and I'm no sketch artist, don't get me wrong), I'll just doodle a bit, then look at it and say "hey, that looks like a dragon". And then I'll fill in the bits that don't yet look like a dragon. It's probably a load of bullsh*t, but this approach has actually has probably yielded the quickest AND the best work I've done. Any time I begin work with a set topic in mind ("I think I'll write a song about my political views!" thpppppp) it nearly always comes off stilted. MANAGED RANDOMNESS is the way to go for me.
I am not prolific at all when it comes to writing, though. I could probably do well to practice it more, so maybe some of that random inspiration will become more under my direct control rather than a chance happening. It also helps that I'm not really aiming at composing anything complex. I'll usually start with simplicity and then decorate it with weird stuff later.
Edited by HolyMoly - August 25 2013 at 14:18 |
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